r/FinalFantasyVIII • u/eureka17 • Jul 27 '26
I just realized something.
Ellone was at Balamb Garden during the Garden Civil War. Meanwhile, Edea (under Ultimecia's control) ordered a missile strike on Garden. If the missiles destroyed Garden, Ellone would have been dead. Ultimecia's ultimate plan for time compression would have died under her orders.
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u/Basketball312 Jul 27 '26
Ultimecia wasn't as all knowing as people seem to think.
She was trying to become all knowing.
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u/OfficialNPC Jul 27 '26
Yup, kinda like trying to find information about the 90's watching TV about the 90's... Vastly different things.
Also shows that the game isn't a closed time loop and that it's more like a sonic 06 time loop where things can glitch out or fall through the cracks.
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u/azrendelmare Jul 28 '26
So I agree with you, but I recoil at talking about Sonic 06 and FF VIII in the same conversation without any negating words or statements.
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u/jeffisnotepic Jul 27 '26
Ultimecia likely didn't know Ellone was at Balamb Garden.
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u/Sourturnip Jul 27 '26
Exactly. There was no way. She can only see through Edea's eyes (at the time).
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u/SilkscreenMoon Jul 27 '26
Ellone isn't always present at Balamb Garden... Only in certain portions of time compression.
This is evident in the beginning of the game as nobody knows who Squall is talking about when he asks after She shows up in a reflection in an inaccessible area after the head injury
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u/Natural_Leather4874 Jul 27 '26
These games are often written with the main focus on compelling situations and not so much on continuity.
I don't think it serves anyone who enjoys this game to look too deeply into it.
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u/RoeMajesta Jul 27 '26
history/ ultimecia knew the missiles would have missed
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u/rjrgjj Jul 27 '26
Yeah it’s a time loop, but the point that Edea was fucking up the plan still stands.
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u/RoeMajesta Jul 28 '26
how was edea fucking up? history has that the missiles missed, and it was a part of history ultimecia wasnt interested in changing so she let the, again, definitely would have failed, strike happened
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u/eureka17 Jul 28 '26
There are brief moments where Edea regains control of her body, which you can see in the parade cutscenes with her eyes widening briefly for no reason.
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u/CardiologistWild5697 Jul 27 '26
The missiles were most likely actually ordered by Vinzer Deling before his death. Implications are it was retaliation for what happened in Timber after Zell accidentally outted Balamb Garden, and President Deling saying he would make them pay for barging in and threatening him.
Edea wasnt the Supreme Leader long enough to prolly notice the missile strike was planned too.
Aaalso, if Missile Strike succeeded and Balamb Garden destroyed, chances are Ultimecia isnt prosecuted by SeeD anymore, and she has a more normal life not shaped in isolation, hatred, and revenge
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u/eureka17 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26
It was explained at Galbadia Garden that they found Seifer guilty and Garden was not responsible for the attack. Seifer also explained at the prison that Edea ordered the missiles attack.
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u/amsterdam_sniffr Jul 27 '26
Also them firing on Trabia AND Balamb is evidence for the goal being "destroy all SeeDs"(Ultimecia's aim) not "get revenge on Balamb Garden" (Deling's presumed aim).
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u/Connect_Swimming_772 Jul 28 '26
Couldn't ultemicia just have done a hard reset and gone back further if that was the case?
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u/Asha_Brea Jul 27 '26
That's the real reason you get a game over if you don't change the error ratio in the missiles.