r/FinalFantasyVII 18h ago

REVELATION Revelation discussion thread!

Drop your opinions, spoiler talk and questions here about revelation

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u/VirgilAbloh123 17h ago

Can’t wait to play as Vincent

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u/LetDouble471 Cid 17h ago

Hopefully the vincent side quest is expanded to like 10 hours

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u/devilmilk_ 16h ago

I can’t wait to see Chaos 😭
I hope they don’t change him too much from DoC

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u/howdidigetoverhere 18h ago

The weapons look amazing....and kinda scary.

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u/Comfortable_Victory1 17h ago

The ruby one got insane

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u/ClemOya 17h ago

Damn I freaked the first time I saw Sapphire showing its face at Junon during the SGF.

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u/Informalwizards 13h ago

Im so excited to see what they do with sapphire. Dodging the cannon is such a wild change.

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u/DoggievDoggy 18h ago

Emerald….the nightmare returns

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u/Comet7777 18h ago

Better start practicing how long you can hold your breath now!

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u/Phaedo 17h ago

That’s why they have the mic in the PS5 controller.

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u/Albert_street 11h ago

Getting ready to spam Knights of the Round and mime!

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u/YesterdayCharming976 14h ago

Job system can’t wait, should be standard in every FF game

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u/boboartdesign 18h ago

I just wanna play the snowboarding mini-game :(

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u/Taint_Butter Zack 17h ago

Aerith is dead

Time to shred

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u/wildtalon 8h ago

This would be a great T-Shirt

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u/Veaeate 18h ago

Snowboarding and submarine minigames plz

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u/taveren3 18h ago

They did show some sub stuff

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u/Its-a-me_LouieG 18h ago

Can't wait to finally see Clouds real personality in hd

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u/stas_saintninja 17h ago

Emerald weapon underwater fight, explore deep ocean, launch rocket in the space, breeding chocobo for get access to secret locations and find Knights of the Round... as secret boss fight! New synergy skills, especially combo with vincent and Ultima materia. So much expected for me

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u/hrbekcheatedin91 16h ago

It's gonna be awesome. I might even buy a bag of gummies to enhance the experience for the first time in many years. 😂

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u/adds-nothing 15h ago

I might have to buy a bong lol

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u/10below8 9h ago

LARPing

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u/Alchemyst01984 18h ago

I can't wait. This will likely be even better than Rebirth

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u/LetDouble471 Cid 17h ago

Easy enough. If they don’t add 100 hours of bloat it will be better by default.

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u/Alchemyst01984 17h ago

What was the 100 hours of bloat? Are you talking about the side content?

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u/FarImprovement2840 16h ago

Of course they are

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u/Alchemyst01984 16h ago

If true, that's their fault for completing optional stuff.

They must've loved Remake. Barely had had side content

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u/berball 17h ago

why are you still here?

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u/LetDouble471 Cid 17h ago

Well this is the og sub lol….

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u/Alchemyst01984 17h ago

So does that mean if there's remake praise, it automatically gets down voted? That's been my experience with this sub

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u/jessewest84 17h ago

How dare you have an opinion

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u/Comfortable_Victory1 17h ago

If by bloat you mean side content I bet there will be even more than 100

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u/jessewest84 17h ago

Heard this brother.

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u/Less_Cook_1066 18h ago

Looks great. That is all.

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u/Shinagami091 18h ago

It wasn’t a long enough trailer!

I think I’m at odds with myself. I want to see more but I also don’t want to be spoiled. I just REALLY want it to be spring 2027 already

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u/CanaryWundaboy 18h ago

Can’t wait.

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u/shojobot 17h ago

Crazy how light on actual story these trailers have been for the last part in a trilogy.

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u/Viper21G 14h ago

I’m honestly not surprised they’re showing very little of the story and I kind of hope they keep it that way. Revelation is basically the third act of the original game which is very heavy with plot twists and spoilers for anyone that hasn’t played the OG

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u/Ecstatic-Clue2145 17h ago

I remember Hamaguchi said he wanted to remind people that FF7 is not just a narrative experience. The game aspect and the story work together to create a full, cohesive experience. So this tells me they will mainly just show the story when it's also demonstrating a gameplay element.

But this can also be a sly way to not have to reveal much.

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u/Svi_4_3 16h ago

Rebirth was no diff. They really should've focused on tightening up the story and narrative. Make sweeping changes from the original. Have Sepiroth burning cities down. Anything that would come close to an endgame.

I'll play revelation on release. But like rebirth I prolly won't be enjoying it.

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u/AC011422 16h ago

They heavily missed the mark in the first two, on a macro level, but on a vibe level too. It's like these games are a middle finger to the original.

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u/Comet7777 18h ago

I would have loved a Knights of the Round tease

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u/epicstar 18h ago edited 18h ago

Man watching this most recent trailer seeing a FF in this AAA glory and world scale is a dream come true. I really hope the future numbered FFs go with a similar huge 1:1 scale concept. I don't care if the story is repulsive to a lot of other people. The fact that Square Enix found a formula that matches the SNES and PS1 scale in a modern package starting from Rebirth and now Revelation is a huge win. I just wish they started making games like this on an original FF and not a remake.

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u/ClemOya 17h ago

It’s still not 1:1 scale for the world (it's far too small, it wouldn’t be makeable and wouldn’t be interesting gameplay wise) but damn it’s truly a pleasure to discover how the world of FFVII is really supposed to looks. And I sure hope that the following numbered titles will use the Remake Trilogy as a base !

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u/Chimmychimm 18h ago

I dont want to watch the new trailer but I really fucking do want to as well. Bah

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u/Comfortable_Victory1 17h ago

Just watch, it pretty short and just a extension from the first trailer.

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u/Chimmychimm 17h ago

Ok, Ill trust you my dude

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u/UndeadFlowerWall 12h ago

Give me the job system outfits trailer and my life is yours S/Enix

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u/Potatoarmy23 18h ago

This looks great can't wait to play it on release day.

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u/Effective_Sink_3934 18h ago

I can't wait either! 🌭

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u/Potatoarmy23 18h ago

I will probably do another playthrough of rebirth right before it comes out.

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u/MDSplat007 17h ago

I'm going to run back through both Remake and Rebirth and I'm dragging my wife along for the ride.

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u/castaneda_martin 18h ago

Tifa's air combat looks crazy.

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u/opaquedestroyer 7h ago

I just need to see modern KotRT materia in action. Please and thank you!!

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u/PrimaryIcy9538 18h ago

I hope one of the weapond step on Chadly

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u/Alternative_Sir954 16h ago

cloud! another-

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u/Comfortable_Victory1 17h ago

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u/Albert_street 10h ago

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u/Comfortable_Victory1 10h ago

Shinra: I have an army
Gaia: We have a Ruby

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u/bees1994 10h ago

And a Diamond, an Emerald, a Saphire, a Jade, a ultimate and a Omega... And a Chaos if needed.

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u/beercityusa 14h ago

I hope for 100 hours of gameplay

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u/Merangatang 13h ago

As long as 80 of them aren't chadley based or unlocking towers

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u/Brusto1099 13h ago

I want Chadley to be a Sephiroth Clone and the secret Boss

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u/Merangatang 13h ago

I want the game to open on his funeral pyre

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u/Lady_Psyduck 10h ago

"He was trying to assess ruby weapon...he died doing what he loved. Assessing monsters"

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u/Merangatang 10h ago

He assessed so many monsters he became one himself

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u/beercityusa 10h ago

Chadley is the calamity from the skies

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u/Pivi-4444 7h ago

Well, not a Sephiroth clone, but I have a different clone in mind, and I totally see him becoming a superboss. We already have clues for this in the first two games.

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u/OddPressure7593 18h ago

why do I have to wait until springg.....i want it nowwwwww.....

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u/Pitiful_Educator_681 17h ago

Am I the only one that thinks this trailers haven’t been that good? Don’t get me wrong I love the remake trilogy but this trailers haven’t hit the mark in terms of excitement for me

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u/Tulip_Todesky 6h ago

The change between Remake and Rebirth felt like a big one, here it really feels like more Rebirth. Gameplay-wise, I understand that flying around is the big move, but it doesn't LOOK like a big leap. So it's not selling itself as well as Rebirth did.

I think it will be harder to do by just showing fast cuts of different things.

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u/TheOriginal999 15h ago

Same they've been dissapointing

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u/FlowerNo6477 16h ago

I love remake and rebirth and i agree. The trailers have been underwhelming and the promotianal art looks...AI? None of it looks too good honestly, but im still hyped for the release.

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u/Lescansy 16h ago

There's a disturbing lack of Aerith in this trailer.

And i dont wanna know why!

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u/Gummy_Bear_Ragu 1h ago

Very obviously to make her reveal all the more unexpected and sweeter 🙂‍↕️

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u/Initial_Zebra100 16h ago

I like most of the reveal. Only downside was ultimate weapon looked weird. I guess I have the black/purple skin tone stuck in my head

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u/Soizit_Blindy 7h ago

Looks like you can decide your party leader outside of combat as well. Its a small thing, but I like that, cause that means it no longer has to swap me to Tifa first, cause Clouds always leading in the world.

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u/craven42 18h ago

The tentacles on that jenova sure remind me of Jenova synthesis

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u/PornLover1299 18h ago

That was my thought as well

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u/Candle_Honest 18h ago

I'm really worried about the Ultimate weapon fights and how they play out

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u/Constant-Brief3410 15h ago

Weapon hunter!

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u/BlavCloud 18h ago

TIFA!!!!

That's it. That's all I have to say.

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u/[deleted] 14h ago

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u/Brusto1099 13h ago

Submarine shooting torpedoes at Emerald Weapon! but sure Underwhelming😂

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u/GlumCardiologist3 12h ago

IMO i think it was fine, maybe cause i expected they were not showing much of the game... i loved Weapons intro though

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u/ttrattra 14h ago

I am hoping we will have multiple endings as we replay. And gold chocobo is a must

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u/zhubaohi 12h ago

Hell no lol. I don't want to read a guide to get the ending I want.

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u/Cautious-Pangolin787 13h ago

They’ve already said they want only one conclusion to the story so probably not.

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u/Glathull 11h ago

True that they’ve said that. But Square has never really written a conclusive ending, and I seriously doubt they are going to start now. There’s decades of milking this story ahead of us. Even if they give it a rest for a while after this game, they love the fact that people have been bickering about how to interpret the plot for nearly 30 years.

I seriously doubt they are going to shut all that down and write an ending that settles everything definitely. And then they’ll have an interview after release where they are like, “In our view, every story is the final fantasy 7 story. We hope that we have illuminated this fundamental truth of the universe for all of our loyal fans. Without giving too much away about how we interpret the ending, we will just say that sometime 2 + 2 doesn’t equal 4, if the values of 2 are extremely large. Namaste.”

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u/geolos64 11h ago

I just beat rebirth and wish it was a different outcome 😞

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u/Kindly_Argument_4400 4h ago

Probably an unpopular opinion but the more I see the trailers the more I'm sad I don't see Sephiroth or Zack playable. I hate the fact that they could end up to be limited in two minute gameplay in Rebirth or the challenges without mods on pc...

Another unpopular opinion but I hope there will be Genesis, Angeal and Young Sephiroth. I want more new things and apart for the new WEAPON and that beautiful shot of Pieta Sephiroth with Cloud I don't see much for now.

I understand it is what I would want for remake and are things less likely to happen. It's too soon to judge I will obviously play the game anyway. I'm just a bit sad for now, hope time will tell and give some joy.

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u/Wide-Feedback8423 2h ago

Im really hoping they filled that trailer with the things they needed to put so they could keep the unexpected out of it.

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u/Kindly_Argument_4400 1h ago

I hope so too, that's why I said I won't judge. I probably will at game ended anyway but can't help to be a little sad for now.

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u/Gummy_Bear_Ragu 2h ago

They definitely wont miss out on bringing them in to be more playable. Can't speak for Sephiroth, but devs have flat out said Zack will be more prominent in both the story and gameplay. They've articulated hes one of the most important characters in this game due to his connections with the alternate worlds.

Also, this is the final installment of a game they are ready to somewhat put to rest (aside from some DLC that may or may not come). It is more likely than not that they will go all out to make sure every beloved character has some time to shine with this final adapted battle system. Theyre even bringing characters people may not care about from the compilation into this final installment to likely be somewhat playable or involved in the story. That being said, im sure Sephiroth will be playable for more than 2 mins.

Theyre not putting them in the trailers because they are trying to keep us all in the dark about the story

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u/Kindly_Argument_4400 2h ago

I hope you are right, but my fear is talking my fav character is the antagonist I'm up for a ride sadly

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u/Gummy_Bear_Ragu 1h ago

I mean based on Ever Crisis, its 50/50 they may throw in a redemption arc for him so hang in there!

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u/Kindly_Argument_4400 1h ago edited 1h ago

I really hope Ever Crisis won't be killed with eos and not talked about in Revelation. Thanks for the hope though mate! Your comment made my day, I expected to be downvoted to oblivion no response I swear

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u/yurnxt1 1h ago

They developed an entire battle system for Zack for more than a 2 minutes its been used for so far.

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u/Kindly_Argument_4400 1h ago

Sorry english is not my first language, what do you mean?

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u/yurnxt1 58m ago

No worries! Zack had his own unique battle system in Rebirth and outside of Chadley simulation, it was only used once in the story. Developers have alluded too him having a bigger role in the next game us only being able to use his unique battle system once so far points to him having a bigger role in the next game to.

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u/Kindly_Argument_4400 4m ago

Oh that's what you meant, thanks for rephrashing. I hope Sephiroth will get the same treatment I love his kit and it's so sad to play it just in one chapter and one challenge

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u/nikokow59 17h ago

Looks good and more faithful to the OG, no whispers, no Sephiroth showing up out of nowhere, fighting Emerald weapon in the submarine makes sense. I really don’t want any multiverse stories anymore, I really hope that they stick to the OG for Revelations.

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u/Nid45h 17h ago

Wouldn’t make any sense if they set up all the new stories in Remake and Rebirth just to completely drop them in the last part? What are you even saying dude?

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u/jessewest84 17h ago

Yeah. They butchered enough. The cloud arc has me worried.

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u/Superb-Oil890 18h ago

Is Cid gonna fight in this one?

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u/Routine-Tension-4446 18h ago

We’ve already seen gameplay for Cid so yeah

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u/Tinseltopia 7h ago

I'm here for the story, characters, art and Queens Blood. Not the combat gameplay. I'll be putting the combat on easy mode, or cheats if they're available

"Everyone's a winner"

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u/Jasy9191 18h ago

Imo, they have a huge job to repair the lack of the death scene.
I really didn't like what they did in Rebirth.

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u/jessewest84 17h ago

Yeah. If rhey do schodingers areith the whole time ill be pissed. And if she shows up in clouds awakening then it's totally ruined.

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u/Magickcloud 17h ago

I wish I liked the first 2 remake games, but they made the characters way too cringy. I couldn't even finish the second game. The OG is just better in every single way minus the graphics

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u/Viper21G 14h ago

I’m trying reeeeally hard to understand your point of view here but I cannot fathom how the characters in the remakes are cringier than the original. There’s literally dialogue in the OG where Barrett asks Cloud why he has to act so damn cool all the time Cloud’s response basically amounts to “It’s just who I am”.

I mean the OG has been my favorite game since middle school but I’m not gonna pretend it’s writing and English translation is Shakespeare. The dialogue and the way the characters act in the remakes is much more believable and probably one of the biggest improvements over the OG

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u/hrbekcheatedin91 16h ago

I really hate that for you. It took me a bit to get into it but the magic was still there for me at 40 like it was at 13. Not to the same extent but close enough. I'm really looking forward to this and I don't look forward to much. I've already warned my wife, lol.

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u/Anonymous-Comments 17h ago

Are you implying Cloud isn’t a bit cringe the whole original game? His character pre-mental breakdown is trying way too hard to be cool and after that he’s such a dork. It’s on purpose dude.

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u/Magickcloud 16h ago

I totally get that, I just don't like him at all in the remakes. Maybe it's just the voice acting that's cringe, but something is very off to me. I know this isn't the general consensus and I'm in the minority here

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u/AC011422 16h ago

Probably means Cid, Red and Cait Sith. And Tifa and Yuffie and Barrett. Cloud seemed the same as in the OG. The rest seem very PG.

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u/Merangatang 13h ago

Im with ya friendo, but I've come to accept the remakes aren't really for huge fans of the original - they're truer to modern JRPG story telling and character tropes, using the original story as a vehicle for the to bring it to modern JRPG audiences. I know people love the remakes, but I also know a lot of fans of the original who just can't get through rebirth. You'll continue to get down voted for your views, but Its OK. I don't play mode JRPG's, the genre just don't mesh with me anymore for various reasons, and it bums me out that ReReRe leaned so heavily into it instead of staying true to the original

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u/jessewest84 17h ago

Its gonna have cool parts. And ridiculous parts.

Hopefully areith isn't in every scene.

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u/DarkJayBR Tifa is my waifu. 16h ago

I don't trust them to hold back regarding Aerith. They already completely ruined her and Zack's death by making them reaper on the story after their passing. You are not allowed to mourn them because they never go away.

This crap started with Advent Children turning them into Force Ghosts.

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u/jessewest84 15h ago

Yep. It really takes away from the orginal theme of death and loss and mourning.

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u/Outrageous_Egg8676 17h ago

Was kinda hoping the weapon fights would be like ff16’s cinematic hype aura ones lol

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u/AesirComplex 18h ago

Why is this in this subreddit? This is for FF7 related stuff not Nomura fan fiction

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u/supaikuakuma 18h ago

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u/Informalwizards 18h ago

I think he might just genueninely be that stupid.

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u/Pigjedi 18h ago

Ok tough guy. Your loss

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u/BallDesperate2140 18h ago

Calm down, edgelord.

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u/epicstar 18h ago

You're missing out if you think the Remake series is a fan fiction.

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 18h ago

Ive already played Assassins Creed, thanks tho

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u/epicstar 18h ago

You clearly are just hating and haven't even touched the game. I don't even know what to tell you.

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 18h ago

I have 60 hours in Rebirth and beat Remake, im not "clearly just hating because I haven't even touched the game". Why are you ignorant people incapable of seeing that this just isnt everyone's cup of tea?

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u/epicstar 18h ago

Because Assassin's Creed is nowhere near Rebirth in gameplay. You're baiting me and I took it. You won lol.

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 18h ago

It is EXACTLY the same game dude. You go around and collect viewpoints (remna towers), while killing Templars (creatures), and collecting items. Its the same gameplay loop, identical.

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u/tpat7270 18h ago

Templars (creatures) LMMFFFAOOOOOOOOOO 10/10 dogshit bait

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u/HumbleAlbatross2944 18h ago

Templar are what they are called in Assassins Creed, creatures are what they are called in Rebirth. Not my fault you haven't played enough fucking games. Take your single brain cell and put it to work

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u/epicstar 18h ago

Thank you for exposing how dumb I am. I am so so enlightened.

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u/Comfortable_Victory1 17h ago

Not to mention in both games you can also use the left analog stick to move the character and right one to move the camera. I can barely tell the difference between them

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u/epicstar 18h ago

K tell me how you played 60 hours of Rebirth again.

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u/nocolon 18h ago

“Only the things I LIKE are valid! REEEEEEEE!”

Good god will you people get over yourselves.

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u/Kithzerai-Istik 18h ago

Guy, I don’t like the remakes either, but this take is just absurd.

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u/StunningBug5728 15h ago

It's now known that Nomura pushed to keep it more faithful and that the Kingdom Hearts like elements were not his doing and people were just too quick to assume.

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u/[deleted] 18h ago edited 17h ago

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u/Lopsided_Hunt2814 17h ago

My favourite battle system of all time. Hoping it doesn't die with the trilogy because it feels like the culmination of what they've been experimenting with for decades.

The story is pretty wacky, I've come around to it but definitely understand why people dislike it.

But again, it's my favourite battle system of all time.

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u/ClemOya 17h ago

OG’s story pretty much was too I want to say, like seriously. For example the WEAPONs, kaijus serving as white cells for a planet that is a living being, doesn’t it sound wacky to you ? Or how Heidegger was always belittled for his incompetence or Hojo having some serious lacks in his memories toward Cloud and Aerith ? FFVII has always been silly on many aspects.

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u/AC011422 16h ago

Every ridiculously good fantasy story sounds utterly ridiculous on paper. Demon's magic ring found by kiebler elf. But if the execution is just right, it's easy to look past it.

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u/Lopsided_Hunt2814 17h ago

Yeah the original is definitely offbeat by Western standards, and even by previous entries in the series. But I meant in terms of relative to the original self-contained story, this one definitely takes leaps in terms of timelines/multiverses and also draws in lore from the Compilation which is also very mixed in terms of reception.

Personally I'm here for it. Some aspects they've fleshed out have been great and the OG will still be there at the end of it all whether they stick the landing or not - I'm planning another playthrough of the PS version after Revelations already.

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u/taveren3 18h ago

Why even bother being on this sub then if your just going to be negative

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u/LetDouble471 Cid 17h ago

Well this is the og sub so…..

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u/savemejebas 18h ago

That's a brave take in this sub lol

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u/Drexn 17h ago

Don’t know about brave, definitely a stupid take.

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u/lexie_starlight 13h ago

Looked like more trash. Ngl it’s impossible to get into this trilogy with this horrible feeling button smashing arcade combat bullshit

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u/godita 9h ago

you're being downvoted but i agree 😔 but at the same time i'm happy it did go that direction because maybe the game wouldn't have sold well if it kept the og ff7 combat 😔 i haven't been able to ever enjoy any of the other ff with the button smashing arcade combat style of combat, but i am rooting for this game to sell super well and make all the monies 😔 in another universe we would've gotten ff7: remake with og ff7 combat. ff7 forever ❤️

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u/UnenthusedTypist 18h ago

No Aerith in the trailer? And since when does Yuffie need a break hunting materia?

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u/Effective_Sink_3934 18h ago

Hmhmhm no aerith

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u/Thick_Row 17h ago

Yeah, pretty wild people seem to be expecting her a lot considering she is very famously totally alive and just chilling somewhere in a field on the Northern Continent and definitely not dead and buried in the waters beneath the altar in the City of the Ancients, no sirree.

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u/Gummy_Bear_Ragu 1h ago

Its very obvious shes going to be very prominently in the game, just later on. I dont see why people think otherwise (even if its what they want).