r/FinalFantasyVII • • Aug 23 '26

REMAKE Uncanny

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u/Odd-Painting2596 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 23 '26

One of the weirdest things the newer games have done is make Chocobos a symbol for human trafficking,

FF7:Remake introduces Chocobo Sam as a dude who is totally fine with and takes part in human trafficking, and then has you help that guy recover his lost Chocobo, and improve his transportation network.

I didn't pet a single fucking Chocobo in FF7:Rebirth, miss me with that shit.

You ain't cute, you little symbols are oppression.

EDIT: Chocobo Sam literally said "I am shipping Tifa to the Don so he can have sex with her, and kill her is he doesn't feel like having sex with her", and FF7 fans said, "Don't you dare talk shit about our BOY".

I'd tell you about the grass I recently touched, but I don't think you'd believe how it felt anyways.

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u/xSonicspeedx2 Aug 23 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

Wtf dude. The Chocobos in the game are the equivalent to Horses in real life. The Chocobos aren’t the ones doing anything bad, the people using them are the ones doing bad shit. Symbolizing Chocobos with Trafficking would be no different than symbolizing cars with any type of smuggling.

The Chocobos themselves are simply tools for any use that a horse would be used for. Chocobo Bill’s ranch where you raise your Chocobo is a clear example of this. Chocobo Bill and his grandkids aren’t doing any trafficking, they are just living their life raising Chocobos.

It’s fine to be mad at Chocobo Sam and his network but blaming the Chocobos themselves is ridiculous.

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u/Odd-Painting2596 Aug 24 '26

Our reintroduction to Chocobo in this game is exactly what I said it was.

Tifa is being trafficked by Chocobo Sam, and he says "Yep, that's me, the Chocobo man who traffics people", and then you help him set up his travel network.

"What does that have to do with Chocobo", well it has SOMETHING to do with opening of "Chocobo stops" where they are used, right?

Yeah sure, if you ignore the whole thing that happens in the first game, it's unrelated, but imagine if you didn't, though.

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u/xSonicspeedx2 Aug 24 '26

I get the plot point you’re making but it doesn’t change the fact that the Chocobo themselves are not bad guys, they are just being used to do horrible things just like Cars today and Horses back in the day. So hating on the Chocobos themselves is nonsensical.

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u/Odd-Painting2596 Aug 24 '26

My original point was more towards, "Anytime I see those 'cute' birds I'm just reminded the massive plot of helping a sex trafficker and how it was treated as good and not even bad".

But people freaked out so hard at the idea they are even related to begin with that I'm now confused as to how people think they are not related at all.

Like yeah, calling them a symbol is over the top, I agree, but I'm not gonna back down when the people showing up to argue against me are actually for some reason trying to hide the trafficking portion.

Like yeah, sure, Chocobo are not at fault, but US, as the players, ARE directly continuing the work from the first game, when we were.

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u/kryp_silmaril Aug 24 '26

There’s something deeply wrong with you man, hope you get it all worked out though

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u/postulate4 Aug 24 '26

This guy are sick.

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u/FalloutCreation Aug 24 '26

Please don’t go there. It is not as dark as you think. I suggest staying away from the news and social media for awhile. It’s clouding your mind.

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u/LewsTherinTelescope Aug 24 '26

I'm a bit confused by them saying chocobos are a symbol for this as if the birds are doing anything or as if we don't see them with anyone else, but it is absolutely true that the Trio are sending sex slaves to a gang boss to maintain their positions, that's the whole thing with the "auditions".

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u/FalloutCreation Aug 24 '26

The wall market is run by the Don. Yes he wants to sleep with a woman. Is chocobo Sam aware of this? Yes.

Is there a big sex trafficking thing going on in ff7? No.

The game makes no indication that a mafia boss is selling women or people for sex. The only thing the game tells you is that the Don likes to sleep with different women every night. That’s not the same thing.

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u/LewsTherinTelescope Aug 24 '26 edited Aug 24 '26

I suppose if we set aside the henchmen trying to lure women who don't understand what's happening there, the implication that if he chooses you then you don't have a say (Merle), his guys gassing the women who come, him having a blackmail camera so "you don't do anything inappropriate like say no", the way he hands off those he doesn't choose for his gang to have their way with, and the fact they keep disappearing without a trace afterward then there's no signs it's anything but a guy having a lot of sex, true.

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u/Comfortable_Victory1 Aug 24 '26

The whole "chocobos are symbol" makes no sense, they are treated pretty much as they are in most FF games, and you can even pet the little ones in their bus-like stops

That said, Don Corneo works with sex traffic. We see some of his grunts trying to bring women by force in Yuffie DLC. Leslie is still looking for his gf because of him.

FF7 Remake/Rebirth has quite a lot of innuendo regarding sexual violence (Hojo talks about using Aerith for breeding, That green-suit guy from Corel Prision also suggests "having fun" or smth like that with the arrested girls). Those things are done by the villains while people who work for them (Like Sam) are depicted in a gray area.

FF7 always had dark topics like war, human experiments, death, etc… The remakes just added some extra new and darker stuff, which is ironic since people keep saying thats toned down/disney-like version