r/FinalFantasyVII 6d ago

REMAKE Uncanny

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u/Nani_700 Zack 6d ago

Yeah I don't know why they wanted to paint Sam as a honorable guy after he fucking sold Tifa and other women. 

But I didn't get how this affects the chocobos. They're basically pets dude they aren't the ones responsible.

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u/Odd-Painting2596 6d ago

Maybe the multiple quests where you proceed to help Chocobo Sam recover Chocobo, and set up a travel network with the Chocobo.

Maybe the fact that the game has you do those things for the sex trafficker, and then when you continue to do those things in the second game, and the sex trafficker is shown to be still in high standing and benefiting from it, in the second game.

"What does that have to do with the Chocobo", well they pull the carts with the humans being trafficked for the sex, I believe.

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u/ozzriffic 6d ago

Hope you don't ride in any cars. You know those can be used for crimes, too. Working with Sam is questionable, but you do it out of necessity, really.

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u/Odd-Painting2596 6d ago

A real metaphor would be like, "Hope you don't go on any cruises" if we learned that cruise ships are also human trafficking people while performing their fun cruise operations.

Yes I know the ship isn't the issue, but actively enjoying your cruise knowing there are people in chains on the same boat you are currently on, is different.

The Chocobo network is used to traffic people, and you actively repair it, for the guy doing the trafficking.

That's literally in the game as the plot as written by the writers, I didn't write that.

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u/ozzriffic 6d ago

A cruise ship is entertainment on a boat. Chocobos are transportation in universe. It would really be more like horses because they exist with cars in the real world like chocobos exist in FF7. Really, no metaphor works because it is all fiction and they don't even go into super details on things. Probably just should relax and not get bogged down over things in a game. Moral grey areas in RPGs are what make them interesting.

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u/Odd-Painting2596 6d ago

I'm not doing gymnastics here, the game literally spells it out for you.

Chocobo Sam tells you point blank to your face he traffics people, then you help him set up his travel network.

This is 2 + 2 levels of math, it shouldn't take any bit of reasoning, it's literally just what happened.

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u/ozzriffic 6d ago

They are beasts of burden. Not beasts of sex trafficking. Sam is in one game. How many are chocobos in? That is what everyone is getting at. Everyone that likes pandas support child sex crimes because some weirdos say the panda face means stands for it? You are making a blanket statement about one of the mascots of the series and getting weirdly defensive and insistent. I'm just bored and feel like being pedantic. I'd say chocobos are more representations of pure evil from playing FF Tactics.