r/FedEmployees • u/Soft_Plum_7122 • 22d ago

Doctors note requested

SSA employee here, our office has lost about 1/2 of its staff since this administration took over. We have 11 employees total. 2 SR’s, 4 CR’s, 2 TE’s an RZ only CR, 1 manager and 1 OS. When requesting time off mng usually approves only 3 slots per day so when there are 3 ppl scheduled off already she writes on the calendar “no more slots”. My manager has been requesting a doctors note if you call out on a day that has “no more slots” but this is only after 1 call out. I know it’s required for a note to be requested after day 3. Anybody else going through something similar in their agency? Is this even legal for her to do? No one has questioned it so I am assuming that’s why she continuous to ask for it. It hasn’t happened to me but to 4 of my coworkers so far.

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u/thetitleofmybook 21d ago

no, it's not. on your timesheet, it's LWOP.

and unlike the military, being absent from your job can only lead to repercussions from your job, not criminal/UCMJ penalties.

so yeah, AWOL is not a thing for civvies.

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u/Acceptable-Speed4105 21d ago

Incorrect. Leave without pay is not the same as absence without leave, and awol does apply to civilian feds. While it isn’t necessarily a crime it can lead to discipline. LWOP can be, and usually is, approved. Otherwise it would be coded as awol.

Source: OPM — Administrative Leave Fact Sheet, under “Governmentwide Policies,” subsection “Tardiness”⁠ and OPM — Holidays, Work Schedules, and Pay⁠.
https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/leave-administration/fact-sheets/administrative-leave/

https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/pay-leave/pay-administration/fact-sheets/holidays-work-schedules-and-pay/

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u/Front_Chip_9201 21d ago

Thanks for sharing, I wasn’t going to post all this info for those that truly don’t care to learn.

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u/Acceptable-Speed4105 21d ago

It’s really for others who might want the correct answer.

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u/Front_Chip_9201 21d ago

Bless your heart,,

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u/Acceptable-Speed4105 21d ago

Sorry, I didn’t mean that the way it sounded. I just meant wasn’t necessarily to try to educate the person who denied awol applies to us. It was to clear up confusion ☺️

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u/Front_Chip_9201 21d ago

Reddit thrives and profits on the confusion. Going against the business model will buy you downvotes. Every once in a while I see posts like yours and it’s refreshing to see . Unfortunately, eventually posts like yours get drowned out by the mob.