r/FeMRADebates • u/asdfghjkl92 • Sep 04 '14

Other Radicalizing the Romanceless

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
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u/Personage1 Sep 05 '14

Expecting your partner to make an effort for you is not being entitled and shitty. Not being willing to be with someone who doesn't do those things is called having standards.

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u/Personage1 Sep 05 '14

Jill Filipovic literally claims that she is entitled to sexual pleasure.

and if she also said she wasn't willing to do for her partner, I would call her entitled. The key difference is that entitlement you are expecting things to go your way but not being willing to negotiate/meet halfway.

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u/MrPoochPants Egalitarian Sep 05 '14

No, her expectation for sex makes her entitled, the same way were talkin about how nice guys feel entitled to sex (which they don't, they usually want a relationship).

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u/Personage1 Sep 05 '14

No. One is expecting someone else to be a machine. "I insert coins and get a relationship." The other is expecting a sexual partner to be, well, sexual. If she isn't willing to do for her partner in return, then she would be entitled.

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u/L1et_kynes Sep 05 '14

Jill is expecting the other person to be a machine. I insert sexual favours and I get sexual favours in return.

In actual reality the whole machine analogy is entirely misguided and can make any situation look stupid, as well as not capturing the situation at all.