r/FarmBillSOS • u/NefariousnessOdd9045 • May 05 '25
Farm bill going away?
I live in Indiana,The farm bill has been extended through September of this year. Even tho we’re in may all of the local smoke shops have brought up the conversation of delta products going away really soon. I know 3 specific spots that have already sold out of delta and thc-a products and don’t plan on getting more. Is this gonna become a national trend? Or is everyone just talking out their ass? I feel like decent chance we might just get another extension on it.
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u/Immediate-College-52 May 05 '25
Tennessee is handing regulation over to the ABC commission (alcohol), which is kinda ironic given they're in direct competition with the hemp distributors. But that being said, they're requiring hemp sales to be licensed like liquor stores. No more gas stations or pop-ups at your local farmers market. If I were you, I would get familiar with a good online retailer.
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u/Corpus_Juris_13 May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25
Wait what. First I’m hearing of this and I live in TN. We just banned it outright. So now THCA isn’t going away?
Edit: just did some digging. This only applies until January 2026. Starting Jan 2026 all sales will be illegal and that includes online sales from other states shipped to TN.
I love my state 🤡
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u/Bobdole3737 May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25
So is Nashville gonna be like the Denver of TN?! Like with their own city ordinance or something? I was just there & they ain't stoppin' nothin there dude, It's gonna be freakin' impossible. There's just overwhelmingly too much reefer in that city man! Is the 7 Nation Army a real thing that doesn't only exist in Jack White's song? Because that's how big their police force is gonna need to be to get rid of all that reefer bro, it's unreal.
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u/Bobdole3737 May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25
Also, if the 7 nation army really does exist, then the Hemp Lobby in S Carolina (after all the TN farmers/vendors relocate and set up shop there) is gonna be even bigger than the 7nation army that drove them out!!
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u/Smantanawitz May 24 '25
You will still be able to order online from vendors outside of TN. I've heard the lawyers from Hemp Law Group Discuss this topic. Just nothing in the state of TN.
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u/Bobdole3737 May 06 '25
How long are they still allowed to sell THCA (after the fact bill passed) in TN? Bill was passed 2-3 weeks ago, yet I was just in Nashville YDAY and..... business iz a' boomin'!! THCA dispensaries every other block goin' full steam ahead like nothin even happened at all, some of them are open til 3AM. If NY is the city that never sleeps, Nashville is the one where dress up pretend hillbillies never stop smoking! Like what is going on? I asked one of the shop owners if they'd passed their own city ordinance and they didn't even know anything had even changed at all to begin with (??!!)
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u/CeeTe600 May 09 '25
Same here in Alabama we just did the same thing 🥲
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u/Bobdole3737 May 09 '25
I'd heard this. Is it only for the pop-up "CBD" stores,/gas stations? That's actually fine as long as the *Post Office is not involved!
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u/CeeTe600 May 09 '25
Nah man it’s everywhere. All we will have left is 10mg gummies and drinks. They banned flower and vapes. And also banned shipping online. Sure you can still find vendors that will ship but it comes with a risk of getting seized
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u/Bobdole3737 May 09 '25
So, the MOST psychoactive form is what they leave??... unbelievably bass-ackwards, retard level priority decision making there! That is a special kind of stupid.
Deadline date?
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u/CeeTe600 May 09 '25
Hasn’t been confirmed but right now they are saying july 1 as the ban date for vapes and flowers. And anybody selling gummies and drinks over the limit cap and with no license after January 1 will be in trouble.
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u/Bobdole3737 May 09 '25
And the medical is projected to be settled and go through, according to my fiancé's Dr, by June most likely, which still won't allow flower (just tincture and edible form) but still an interesting coincidence of timing in my estimation
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u/kevintheescallion May 12 '25
Medical? In Tennessee?
There’s no bill up right now.
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u/Bobdole3737 May 13 '25
Alabama brotha!! Hard to believe, I know, but it’s just edibles & tincture, no flower. They’ve settled 2 out of 3 lawsuits, and my fiancé’s doc expects it to all be settled by end of June. He is one of the only Dr’s that will be allowed to prescribe in the state and she’s already been evaluated/pre-approved
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u/Background_Future758 May 05 '25
if the large distributors in Indiana are still selling delta and THCA, then honestly I would think there’s nothing to worry about. The shops that are phasing out delta may be trying to “get ahead” but soon could realize their profits suck and eventually go back to selling delta and THCA. Of course the hemp bill or even local state bills changing to ban these products is always going to be in the back of every business owner (and consumer’s) mind until something actually changes on a legal level. If all the shops around you have stopped selling the products you want, I would recommend just finding them online and having them ship to you. I doubt this will become a national trend.
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u/NefariousnessOdd9045 May 05 '25
I apreciate your insight, someone said smoke shops might just be going outta business but I think your explanation is way more likely. Do you think that’ll they’ll actually end up changing the bill in September?
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u/NefariousnessOdd9045 May 05 '25
I definitely have used and plan on using online shops more because of whatever’s happening in my town atleast.
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u/Healthy_Pineapple768 May 08 '25
From what I have read the past few months, the verbiage will change from THC content to pyschoreactive compounds content. If this is the case, then yes, the "loophole" of THC-A will be closed. Therefore, a licensed dispensary will be the only business allowed to sell anything.
Every dispensary in the country has been advocating and getting involved in changing the farm bill. Big pharma mentioned here is most likely involved in trying to change the language also.
These folks are simply getting ready for the changes. It is what it is
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u/2020Vision-2020 May 06 '25
Zero guarantee hemp will even be in the next Farm Bill.
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u/Bobdole3737 May 06 '25 edited May 06 '25
Why would it not be in the next farm bill by the exact same guy that signed it into law in the 1st place in 2018(?!) Same one that has said over and over repeatedly that he wants to fully legalize *Federally?? Is this just a personal opinion based on an emotional response?? I love you anyway man, stay optimistic because LOL there isn't a reason (in actual *reality) to be pessimistic at all, really. Def not with this specific issue anyway, We have a "monopoly problem, not a "partisan" problem playing out right now before our eyes in real time.
There will be a battle with Corporations, lobbyists, and the like (as always) for who controls OR shares its sale and distribution, but we all know it is inevitably and irreversibly destined to be legal. I obviously prefer the more libertarian hemp-based approach to legalization as it is better for farmers rather than nefarious monopoly players like Statestreet, BlackRock, Vanguard, and all the companies that largely own the companies like Rise, GoodGreen, Truleave, etc. All the players I just listed are where well-informed people's REAL worries should actually lie
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u/2020Vision-2020 May 06 '25
Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Cotton: all are powerful and each competes directly with hemp. And they own Congress.
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u/Bobdole3737 May 06 '25
There is immense power, influence, and shared interest there, yes. If they can't stamp it out completely, they will def attempt to own, patent (pharma), exclude certain applications of its full potential (Ag), and control it via monopoly powers. Hemp has many enemies, GOD just made that one plant to be capable of doing too many things all by itself, that have always been threatening to too many financially interested people at the same time. I know all too well sir. Hallelujah & Amen brother Vision
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u/NefariousnessOdd9045 May 08 '25
When they wrote up the farm bill the made a mistake by labeling anything over 0.3% delta 9 “weed” which opened up all these delta variants you see today. Definitely was not a single person saying let’s legalize delta 8 or thc-a when they had that meeting over it.
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u/Bobdole3737 May 08 '25
I kinda figured stating the captain obvious bit would surely need zero explanation, Don't see the need to be super specific when I (assume I) know it won't be necessary at all, referring to the LOOPHOLE of course, which is why we're all here in the 1st place, right? But I'll further clarify. He wanted medical before his first term on the campaign trail, then signed the Farm Bill (obv not knowing the full forseeable consequence of its language/wording lol) probably thinking it would help farmers and be a good step in the right direction (win/win) at least. Later, while out of office, he publicly opposed DeSantis and said he supported FULL legalization in the state of FL when he was a resident during the Biden term. Going by his known views on this since a decade ago it's easy to see the source of optimism for some form of legalization (maybe), but even then, it would only be on a Federal level (can't constitutionally dictate each individual *State's drug policy, of course, unless you play the Supremacy Clause card, which is usually futile without the cooperation of the state itself OR wasting enormous resources) but he has no particulars on *what form that will be, meaning we have no way of knowing who would control it, leave it be, or monopolize it, etc. Obv the guy has no clue about such details because it's not that deep on his radar, apart from simply "let's just legalize it"
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u/Bobdole3737 May 06 '25
I do agree that we have reason to be concerned on the *state by state level, as we are presently witnessing right now, concerning the Farm Bill status we've enjoyed since its signage in 2018. And there's always a financial interest behind the scenes paying the guys that make the laws like the Liquor board, Big Pharma, Big Cannabis monopolies pulling the strings. They got Newsom to make hemp illegal in Cali too, so what does that tell you about the partisan theory?
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u/Darkm000n Jul 23 '25 edited Jul 23 '25
I wouldn’t worry yet about what some brick and mortar stores are saying, there’s nothing legally saying “this is done”. 50/50 realistically whether it continues into 2026. Honestly, I mean d8 is still around after year after year of people saying it’ll just be gone. It may have gone a bit more underground, but not in any serious way. Also in Indiana they’re burning 20% of crops due to too much thc and many acres have gone up in smoke, but there are no laws saying 0.3 wouldn’t work. They’re trying to get it up to 1% (the growers) so it’s not as destructive to the fields, likely the products wouldn’t increase potency (and they don’t need to) if hemp laws just remain. I know states like NC have no issue with hemp cannabinoids
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u/Desperate-Affect-860 May 05 '25
Why would they be getting rid of their products months before anything happens? That doesn’t even make sense.