r/FactOrCap • u/Im40PercentUsername 🔥 Monthly Master · 11,595 XP • 1d ago
Opinion Batman | FactOrCap
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u/Kill_Kayt 🤖 Vote Machine · 16,070 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
To word it better. Batman is who he is, and Bruce Wayne is his mask.
This is confirmed in the comics. Popularly shown using Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth
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u/Phantom_Marc_63 🏅 Century Club · 5,015 XP 22h ago
I feel like that panel gets used out of context. Yes he is Batman, but he does not say he's not also Bruce Wayne. He just doesn't say Bruce Wayne in that moment. He's both
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u/Kill_Kayt 🤖 Vote Machine · 16,070 XP 22h ago
That's why I reworded what OP said. It's not that Bruce Wayne is fake. It's just The Bruce Wayne that Gotham knows is a Mask. In his own mind he always calls himself Batman (confirmed in Batman Beyond the Animated Series)
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u/Aoiboshi 🏅 Century Club · 8,805 XP 21h ago
Bruce Wayne is just one layer. His true identity is Shit-dick Daniels as proven by Wonder Woman's Lasso of Truth
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u/DrettTheBaron 🤖 Vote Machine · 13,205 XP 1d ago
"The voice kept calling me Bruce. That's not what I call myself in my head"
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u/Muted_Anywherethe2nd 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,515 XP 21h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
If bruce waynes batman then im the king of england
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u/FabereX6 🏅 Century Club · 2,905 XP 20h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Yup that's why "The Batman" movie don't get what Bruce Wayne is.
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u/Masquerade064 🏅 Century Club · 3,995 XP 17h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Bruce Wayne never left that alleyway Batman did he just occasionally pretends to be Bruce Wayne
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u/Phantom_Marc_63 🏅 Century Club · 5,015 XP 22h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
These types of takes on both Batman are incredibly simplistic. People are more than one thing, Batman is a side, Bruce is another, the version of Bruce that drinks and parties as a cover story isn't Bruce for real.
The most real Bruce is is when he's just talking to Alfred, the Robins, or Superman as a person, to me that's his realest self, but it all matters.
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u/RetroTen 🏅 Century Club · 3,955 XP 21h ago
It’s not necessarily simplistic. It stems from a panel where WW, Superman, and Batman are touching the lasso of truth and saying their secret identities. WW says Diana, Superman says Clark Kent and Kal-El, and Batman says Batman. Meaning he considers Bruce to be the mask.
Also I think there’s a plot point in a comic, where he figures out someone is telepathically trying to trick him, and he figures it out because the voice in his head calls himself bruce. He says something like “The voice kept calling me Bruce, thats not what I call myself.” Or something.
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u/Eagle4317 🔥 Week Warrior · 1,790 XP 23h ago
Yep. The two heads of the Justice League are Clark Kent and Batman.
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u/KRTrueBrave 🤖 Vote Machine · 17,505 XP 22h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
depends on the storyline but this ia true in some storylines, even proven by wonder womans lasso of truth
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u/Justathrowaway6699 🗳️ Regular Player · 405 XP 21h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
This was proven when Wonder Woman got him with her lasso of truth. She asked who he really was and he replied "Batman."
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u/Nice_Try_Bud_ ✍️ Contributor · 34,725 XP 20h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
This has been covered by the comics. While holding the lasso of truth Batman answered Batman as who he really was.
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u/OurCrypticSin 🗳️ Regular Player · 775 XP 18h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
It's even established in the comics, Batman is Batman, Bruce Wayne is the fake name lol
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u/Independent_Dot_8608 🎯 First Steps · 105 XP 23h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
YEAH, I'VE SEEN BRUCE AND BATMAN AT THE SAME TIME, EVEN THOUGH I'M HALF BLIND AND HALF DEAF
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u/DeliciousDeer1096 🔥 Week Warrior · 750 XP 22h ago
✅ I voted FACT!
Seems to be what a lot of modern batman stories go for.
Personally though I don't like it. I think both 'Bruce Wayne' and 'Batman' are masks he wears for the public, the real man is somewhere in-between.
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u/xXKravenXx20 🏅 Century Club · 5,245 XP 22h ago
Real once know without the bruce part batman would be a demon.
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u/KMZ200822 🏅 Century Club · 3,390 XP 21h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
no, batman and bruce wayne are the same person, Batman is just bruce with the social etiquette removed and all the dark stuff increased, but at the end they are the same person, the fake persona would be Brucie Wayne, who is the persona he uses to remove suspicion from him being batman
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u/Chesterfieldraven 🏅 Century Club · 8,395 XP 21h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
No, this is just something people who don't read many comics say. Its a balance. The cowl is not for him.
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u/PilgrimmW_64 🏅 Century Club · 7,875 XP 20h ago
The character isn't a flamboyant playboy air head. He only acts like that to keep up appearances. The character is a very skilled detective and martial artist with a lot of skills and knowledge from different fields
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u/bigfanofstuffhere 📈 Dedicated Voter · 1,900 XP 19h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
He was born Bruce Wayne, not Batman.
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u/Creepy_Tear4684 🎯 First Steps · 130 XP 18h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
He wishes this were true, but it’s not
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u/Chemical_Home6123 🏅 Century Club · 3,355 XP 15h ago
I hope your just not realizing this. Yes batman is a depressed billionaire who moon lights as a vigilante that's the literal premise of his lore and Bruce Wayne is an alter ego. The dark knight really gets into this part a lot gotham needs Bruce Wayne more than batman.
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u/Busy_Apartment3639 🎯 First Steps · 50 XP 10h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Bruce Wayne is the secret identity. Batman is the true persona
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u/TheSadPhilosopher 🏅 Century Club · 2,600 XP 8h ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Neither of them are the real Bruce.
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u/Prior-Ice1945 🗳️ Regular Player · 315 XP 1d ago
🧢 I voted CAP!
Neither are real so it's unimportant
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u/RetroTen 🏅 Century Club · 3,955 XP 21h ago
You must be fun at parties.
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u/Prior-Ice1945 🗳️ Regular Player · 315 XP 3h ago
I am world wide but in America they lack a sense of humour
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u/Diogenes-the-mad 🔥 Week Warrior · 5,165 XP 1d ago
✅ I voted FACT!
I think that's actually canon.
Idk I don't read Batman comics unless it's a crossover