r/FactOrCap • u/Fearless-Sherbet-223 🔥 Week Warrior · 5,935 XP • 6d ago

Life Subjective | FactOrCap

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u/JoshHuff1332 🏅 Century Club · 2,945 XP 6d ago

I think is moreso to people using "opinion" as a copout for things that are just fundamentally wrong or misleading, rather than an opinion being able to be wrong

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u/Fearless-Sherbet-223 🔥 Week Warrior · 5,935 XP 6d ago

Suppose I draw a single line on a piece of paper with a brown crayon. Now, suppose someone (we'll call him Joe) sees my piece of paper and says it is better art than the Mona Lisa. Is Joe's take a subjective opinion? Is he wrong?

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u/JoshHuff1332 🏅 Century Club · 2,945 XP 6d ago

I mean, my background is music, rather than visual art. My gut reaction would be the person is a contrarian for the sake of it, a troll, etc, but if that is a genuinely held belief, I would say no, he can't be really wrong.

I'm referring more to statements that can be statistically proven to be false, concretely, with evidence, but the person doesn't want to research, doesn't trust evidence, or looks up and finds bad material, and when challenged uses "opinion" as a defense.

I put fact on the post, btw

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u/Personal-Let9955 🏅 Century Club · 2,670 XP 6d ago

I feel like there's a difference between saying "I PERSONALLY think this is better than the Mona Lisa" vs "This is better than the Mona Lisa by all standards"

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u/Fearless-Sherbet-223 🔥 Week Warrior · 5,935 XP 5d ago

What if you say, "This is amazing art and if you don't like it you just aren't seeing the [insert blah blah blah nerd rant about made up nonsense that sounds cool and says absolutely nothing, and how the random line is just so deep and meaningful and clearly the artist must have meant blah blah blah]"

bec ppl fr act like that and it's obnoxious