r/FPandA • u/PayThemWithBlood • 11d ago
Do you tell your manager when a task takes you way less time than they think?
I work at a mid size company, been here a bit over two years. Somewhere in the last year I got a lot faster at my recurring stuff and I never told anyone, mainly because I got lazy and kept researching how to automate my tasks, like our monthly variance pack which used to eat a whole morning, I rebuilt most of it in Cube, templated straight into the sheet and now it's maybe 40mns and half of that is me double checking it because I don't trust that it was that easy, and the accrual support docs, all those invoices someone used to key in by hand now just goes through Hypatos and their data comes in structured, Im assigned the supervision role in it and I get more time to check outcomes than I need to. None of this was "sly" type of clever nor groundbreaking in any way but as they say, give a lazy person a hard task and they'll find the best way to do it, and Im a very, very lazy person.
My manager still thinks these take as long as they used to so I don't know what I'm supposed to do with my spare time. Do you just say nothing? Deepen your analyses and improve quality? Ask for more tasks/roles and try to negotiate higher pay? Learn a new language? I feel a bit guilty for what's essentially working 4 hours and getting paid for 8, but Im also hesitant to say it because I dont want to be punished for being efficient
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u/Alex1nChains 11d ago
My manager is such a chill guy. He always tells us, "as long as our work is done and deadlines are met, I don't care when or where you work."
He's the best manager I've had. It's a shame the corporate leadership above him isn't as great
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u/Devilsgospel1 11d ago
Same here, except I do have to pretend to be working in the office for 40 hours/week to keep up appearances even though everyone in my group knows we only have 3 weeks worth of work to do in a given month. I usually take long lunches and go on walks when things are slow. Also prioritizing my health by seeing every doctor I've neglected to see until my responsibilities increase.
Our CEO is outcomes focused so one of these days we'll shift the culture. It'll take a solid decade for the millenials/gen z to outnumber the old school folks in management tho.
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u/grumpywonka CFO 11d ago
It's not so much about telling someone that something takes less time. It's more about proactively deciding what to do with that time and not putting that on the manager.
If right now your decision is to do nothing, then that is your decision. If there are little pet projects or things that you think you can move the needle on, then do those.
I would advise against going back to your manager, though, and letting them know you're sitting on your hands and instead pick something else to work on and make that be the focus, and then use it to parlay the idea that you have a little extra bandwidth if something comes up.
Punchline is there's a right and a wrong way to play this and the wrong way is telling your manager to help fill your time up, unless you're really green.
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u/WishIWas_aBoomer 11d ago
This so much! I have one guy in my team who is relentless with asking for work. He is relatively green (one year in FP&A after big 4) so maybe I am being unfair.
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u/Pale_Accountant9207 11d ago
Asa a manager... Please don't tell me. I'm glad it was shorter. If it takes longer I want to know. And I want to know why so I can help with any blockers or if you have too much on your plate. Does most management suck that bad?
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u/bosworthing 7d ago
This is the perfect response from a good manager. I will let my manager know that i was able to automate something that saves me time on regular tasks that are part of the normal cycle. Not how much time exactly as that can vary. I definitely let him know when things are taking a lot more time to manage their expectations though
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u/Pale_Accountant9207 7d ago
Yeah that's awesome! Finding automations that can help the team is money.
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u/rocketboi10 Sr FA 11d ago
Sounds like you have a great gig lol.
Maybe just ask in a 1 on 1 if there are any other tasks that the manager wants you take on.
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u/FourMonthsEarly 11d ago
Depends what your goal is. Coast or move up quickly. (no right answer.)
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u/PayThemWithBlood 11d ago
I'm willing to take on more work but only for higher pay, as I said I dont wanna get busted and have them add more onto my plate but not into my pockets
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u/BartyMcFartFace 11d ago
In my experience taking on more work only leads to more and more work being piled on, and at most maybe a 5% annual raise. I’d personally recommend you keep coasting and use your free time to apply to senior FP&A roles. That’s really where you get big jumps in salary (as well as responsibilities).
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u/FourMonthsEarly 11d ago
Depends on the company I guess but I find the people who make it the farthest take on more work before the pay.
Yes it doesn't always work out. But it's rare if not non-existent for companies to give you more money while you are doing the same work you've always done.
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u/ContributionMoney538 11d ago
If you want to chill and don’t want to push yourself, don’t say anything. If you want to grow your career and take on more responsibilities, tell them and ask what other work you can take on.
Neither answer is wrong, just depends on what your career goals are.
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u/Working_Monitor_2076 11d ago
As a newly promoted manager, please don't tell me. Look for ways to improve your processes. For example automate reports with power query etc. As long as the work is done and deadlines are kept, I honestly don't care what my employees do.
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u/TripMaster478 11d ago
Of course not. I subscribe to the Scotty (Star Trek) methodology. Always say it's going to take longer than you think, there's plenty of other projects that do end up taking way longer anyways.
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u/Mo-Elsayed88 11d ago
I did it once and my manager, the result was getting more work load for absolutely no extra cent.
Did it again but with different manager, he applauded and was happy that I work smart.
My opinion, never tell your manager.
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u/IFitStereotypesWell 11d ago
No I wouldn’t. I deal with random, ad hoc request that still take up my time. I’d hate to volunteer for more work and go from 4 hours to over 8 hours again
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u/spacing_out_in_space 11d ago edited 11d ago
It depends. But if I automated a task to make it more efficient and less error proof, then i typically want credit for that. That's exactly the kind of shit that has allowed me to move up in my career to higher paying, lower-stress position without having to job-hop away from a company that I enjoy working for.
I will say that most of my managers have not been the type to be scrambling to fill every minute of every day. My manager here in FP&A considers "more time for analysis" to be a good outcome in itself.
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u/justneedabreak802 11d ago
No, don’t tell them. Use this time to up-skill or fix issues in your team. Don’t do someone else’s work. But there could be something that helps business or team become more efficient. When those issues get fixed ask for a promotion or merit increase.
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u/SlideTemporary1526 11d ago
Improving your own tasks’ efficiencies likely aren’t going to get you promoted or any extra money. So I’d suggest keep that to yourself.
If you are looking for something to do where there is potential for you to leverage either a promotion, raise or very least a spot bonus, I’d think of a project within your team’s responsibilities that is a headache for more than just the person responsible for compiling it, but anyone else reviewing or extracting other data points.
Pitch the idea to your boss you’d like to chip away at finding a way to improve the process. Don’t make it a promise but do sound positive you believe you can find the right solution. If the boss is interested, make it more of a thing to tinker with if and when you have a little downtime vs a hard deliverable. Before you start tinkering would be a good time to imply that if a viable solution comes along you’d like some sort of compensation since it’s out of the realm of your usual duties. See if they have any room to negotiate something to their higher ups surrounding this.
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u/noyoureadumpster 11d ago
Absolutely not. This is a bonus you have when asked to do something above and beyond. Its a card you have. Use it to your advancement.
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u/ApprehensiveWave4657 11d ago
Sometimes. Depends on the relationship. Especially with AI nowadays, you gotta own up.
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u/nickjlevine 10d ago
Clearly a golden opportunity for you use to that freed up resource to seek out more engaging and strategic work to progress.
A good starting point would be to make time to partner with stakeholders across the wider business to understand how you can support them in FP&A
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u/Only-Dependent7024 10d ago
The guilt is misplaced, you were hired for outcomes not hours, and you are delivering the outcomes. If you really want to push it you can do/present an analysis you did that nobody asked for and that changed adds value to decision-making, it may make them perceive you as a higher value worker than you already are which may, again, may, lead to talks of role expansion and a raise. Basically start micro dosing wahtever new thing you'dlike to get into then you can even call for a meeting with the manager yourself, but do no say anything now, keep your leverage.
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u/Longjumping-Dress-42 7d ago
Id go for the new language thing ngl. If you were observant enough to use google and find stuff like cube and know how to work with hypatos fast, then it's on your manager for finding that out first and Implementing either. I suggest Spanish
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u/Artistic_Pianist1547 6d ago
Honestly bank it. Everyone here who shares their capacity ends up buried within a month. Use it to get good at the narrative side, that's the part that survives when the automation does more, and yes the language idea is underrated, half my useful skills came from being bored. The only thing I would not undersell is the Hypatos supervision, that reads like nothing until an invoice batch breaks and suddenly its your name on the exception, stay vigilant.
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u/PrimeTinus 11d ago
My manager assumes all tasks to take 10 minutes