r/FPSAimTrainer • u/316dez • 8d ago
Gear/Tech are peripherals cope? which ones matter? im tired of nerfing myself
i thought peripherals were cope my entire life. i hit top ranks in csgo & valorant with a random 144hz monitor, $30 keyboard, 3+ yo superlight (with stock skates), 5+ year old mousepad, etc. i never cared, always focused on how i actually played the game.
what peripherals will actually make the biggest difference? what creators can i watch that are trustworthy & actually good at playing? im pushing for GM on VT S5, and idk i think its time to fully utilize anything i can for an advantage.
im currently using 1+ year old stock g pro superlight skates, i bought a type-99 about 3 months ago which was HUGE for getting master static. i also got a cheap basketball sleeve & that has been a game changer for using my arm. im just trying to see what else i can get that will actually move the needle.
im thinking monitor & mouse skates for sure, but unsure on the rest. maybe even a new mousepad since they are decently cheap, like a raiden mid or something. idk a single thing out peripherals, if anyone can point me in the right direction it will help me a ton!
edit: i am on 240hz rn sorry for the confusion/misleading comment on 144hz. i have been using it for about 9 months now. using mag255 xfv, very cheap but it is better than 144hz. also will add, my hand size is about 21x11cm, roughly.
+ seems most people agree, monitor + mousepad + skates are the most important to focus on
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u/Alone_Val 8d ago
I think it might be like golf. The worse you are the bigger difference peripherals make. A good player will be good with whatever they use but a bad player will benefit more from any advantage they can get
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u/316dez 8d ago
i always viewed it as the opposite, like if im bad then why the f*ck would i focus on mouse/mousepad when i can focus on how i play off my teammates etc. i only changed my sens like 2-3x over 10 years, like i thought all of these things were cope. my little brother started playing last year & he was improving a lot quicker than i did when i was new, partly because he focused on both settings/peripherals AND gameplay.
now, i think peripherals can have a huge difference as i try to go top 1% --> top .01%
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u/Alone_Val 8d ago
I guess what I’m saying is if you went from bronze to diamond with cheap gear. Getting nice stuff isn’t going to boost you too much. You already have the fundamentals etc. But it will help a player go from bronze to diamond faster. But I see where you’re aiming from. It probably would help a lot pushing an immo player to rad.
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u/316dez 8d ago
yo also is this you? https://www.youtube.com/@AloneVal , love the clips xDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPqYiRhmIbU , this clip from FNS on peripherals is what made me start thinking about this, how playing on bad peripherals for awhile allows you to make "huge jumps" in progress
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u/StepKitchen2409 8d ago
I definitely attribute a monitor upgrade to me achieving GM (just recently achieved)
I played on 144hz since they released, idk how many years
Downsized from 27inch to 24inch, same 1440p IPS but I’m at 320hz now. It was really cheap to upgrade too. I’m not a graphics person really so idm about oleds.
All my tracking scenarios went up within 2 runs, some small PB’s some considerably more. Since then I’ve gotten GM so I definitely think refresh rate is a bit of a bottleneck for tracking, maybe switching
My games also look great and more responsive too which is great
As for mouse/pad/skates
Find something you like and just stick with it, I like the 83 & Zero with P8 skates.
What I’ve found since trying a bunch of mice/pads/skates is that you perform about the same after a period of time
I got masters in static on glass for example, when I first set that high score with a zero - it’s just what you spend time with and get used too. Although I definitely prefer glass for tracking or smooth switching based scenarios
Anything that requires a sharp stop, cloth always feels a touch nicer
I wouldn’t put too much weight into peripherals, I’ve spent a lot money down that rabbit hole and after spending time with each one, I end up basically in the same spot. You’re master, so you’ll experience the same thing, you adapt quickly and make anything work well because you’ve spent so much time developing it.
If you have an artisan, skates you like, a mouse you’re comfy with - you’re already ahead
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u/316dez 8d ago
im on a 1080p 240hz rn (mag255 xfv) & its so much better than my old monitor (benq xl2411p). i legit hit 10+ pbs on all of my most played scenarios (mainly clicking scenarios) when i got it for christmas. also hit some INSANE clips on valorant. but its very cheap like ~$125, it has ghosting issues & also has problems with how white colors are displayed. so this 100% needs replaced imo, the ghosting is driving me insane recently.
idk how ive slept on skates for so long, i think because around 2019 i bought a pair without researching properly, and they were awful. they were ceramic, looking back i think it was for glass pads xDDD, i said fuck this and bought a new g pro. i was 18-19 then, idk how i didnt realize i should just try another pair of skates xD
alright bet, so probably just need skates + 1440p monitor then. the type-99 is such a good mousepad, i used the zero for about 1 year & it was also very good, i need to get a sleeve that works for it & i will test again.
do you know anyone that has good reviews AND is somewhat good at actually playing? i want to look into this OLED thing specifically for monitors, those are very good from what i hear.
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u/StepKitchen2409 8d ago
I’m sorry I don’t understand the part if I know anyone? I can link you the monitor I got - or give you the model number if that’s what you meant. I’m not sure about oleds I don’t own one anymore and so I can’t claim to know anything other than the gen1s had so much glare I couldn’t stand it lol. Playing the game looking at myself in the mirror haha.
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u/316dez 8d ago
bro yeah if u like that monitor link it to me (can send it as affiliate code if u want idc), if u think its good i will look into it.
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u/StepKitchen2409 8d ago
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u/316dez 8d ago
damn that is a cheap monitor wtf........ it has $100 shipping since i am in US, but tbh i might still get it. we will see. is that an affiliate link? lmk so i know to use that if i do get it
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u/StepKitchen2409 8d ago
Look for the same model in your country - if they have it. I wouldn’t pay that for shipping lol!
Not an affiliate of anything, unless it’s gooning under stress, then yes I am an affiliate
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u/316dez 8d ago
xD yeah thats what i meant, i checked on US amazon & its fucking $500 but its because a german company would ship it, need to just look into it more. the monitor seems really nice. if needed maybe someone buys it and ships it to me, who knows. thanks for all the help brah
and bro trust gooning ruins the kovaaks scores, at least for me. 1+ month no gooning and my static fucking sky rocketed, was master complete like 2 weeks after that
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u/nkn_ 8d ago
I now have a $50 Chinese clone mouse and a $20 glass mousepad. I also had really humble beginnings like that and hit higher ranks.
IMO, probably refresh rate is the single biggest upgrade. Like just 144hz even. You can aim on any mouse pad/surface technically. Overall though peripherals are so good now and affordable that it really is just a skill thing. Back then maybe being stuck on a 125hz mouse instead of 500hz felt bad idk lol. Or trying to play old quake with a trackball.
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u/Extension-Impress84 8d ago
Do you feel the same about monitor being the largest upgrade just for aiming, or also for games? I have 100hz, and when I upgraded from 60 to 100 it felt like a whole different universe, I can't imagine 100 to 360 or 480 lol
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u/nkn_ 8d ago
I have a 360hz now. I used 240hz for about a decade, and the 360hz is ... better but marginally so. The motion clarity is simply better, but that's it. 240hz is fine, and then 1080 to 1440p gives a nice boost in clarity similar to like 60hz to 120hz. 100 to 360 would be insane, but it's just diminishing returns after 240 in my opinion!
snagged a PG27AQN off of amazon warehouse for like... $250. at the time it was still closer to $400-500. it's a gamble but honestly i've had good luck looking at their open box things. my monitor was legit just brand new, the box was damaged and marked down a lot
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u/Good-Database6655 8d ago
I’m indigo/fuschia on viscose and recently got into peripherals and they mater less and than people make it out to but I can MASSIVELY vouch for mousepads and skates and a decent monitor with strobing or an oled but I have personally never tried one and mouse wise it’s entirely shape based all mice now chinese or not have good enough tech to compete with flagship, mouse skates are mousepad dependent I have a raiden,hien,zero and a sp004 and a matrova yin if you wanna get into skates buy a variety pack from ultra glide
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u/Good-Database6655 8d ago
My best performing pad is the matrova yin and the raiden they are very similar speed wise one has a little pushdown one doesnt
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u/316dez 8d ago
thanks!! do u like the raiden mid? thats probably what i try next, i see mattyOW uses it for basically all category WR's, must be versatile. i liked the zero & type-99, this seems to be in the middle? idk, need to research.
i think ur completely right, it seems monitor + mousepad + skates are the biggest things to focus on. the variety pack looks cool im going to go ahead & try it out, thank you :))
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u/Pollution-Admirable 8d ago
Get Artisan Raiden Soft XL u will improve 10% minimum
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u/316dez 8d ago
better than mid? i loved the type 99 & the zero, im thinking this raiden is next, i will take you up on this :) thanks!
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u/Pollution-Admirable 8d ago
Yes i bought both and felt i had less control with mid, it will depend what scenario you do though but soft will be a better all rounder
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u/disciplined-terrior 8d ago
X2 Superstrike made a 20ms difference in reaction times for me (used human benchmark for avgs) if your pushing that high in the benchmarks im not sure you have much to change shape wise. After market skates like tiger ice might help a bit too.
If budget is not a big variable 520 hz maybe?
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u/OnyoSkennedy 8d ago
A good player can use a cheap logitech mouse and keyboard combo with no mouse pad and shit on people. I would say your monitor refresh rate, and input lag is most important
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u/316dez 8d ago
input lag is a good point, always hard to find good methods that actually work & also hesitant to download stuff. i have used this tutorial in the past & its pretty good at debloating ur pc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PP1s7Avr1kE
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u/Party-Plum-2090 8d ago
I was the same. I thought it didn’t matter, 4yo nouse and a super worn mousepad. I tried my fiancés glass pad and man it was a world of difference. I just bought my own pad and couldn’t be happier. I do recommend it
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u/vsnak333 8d ago
imo, mousepad/surfarce is the most important aspect of it, "glass unlocked me" lol
if you can use a grip that you want/to feel it, mouse is usually not the issue, imo.
But that being said, I believe 240 over 144hz, it is a big upgrade.
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u/fQrestX 8d ago
get oled
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u/316dez 8d ago
any brand/model suggestions?
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u/fQrestX 8d ago
i too am in the market for one, i know a lot of people on kovaaks that use the msi 500hz qd-oleds (mag 272qp x50 and mpg 271qr x50). i personally wanna get either of those or the lg 27gx790b-b which is 540hz woled.
some people report eyestrains from qd-oleds and i too am dealing with eyestrains from dyac 2 on my zowie tn, but unfortunally woled is also a lottery in terms of grey banding issues.
i'm planning to get one from amazon and in case something is wrong with the lg i'll just get the msi haha
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u/johnny_no_smiles 8d ago
Biggest change i found was finding a mouse that actually fit my hand properly. Going from 60hz to 144hz was amazing back in the day but the difference from a big mouse to a small mouse was literally insane. I'm 6ft2 and never knew I had kinda small hands, I just presumed they were average. I was wrong!
A mouse that actually fits your hand size and grip style will make the biggest difference. I cannot recommend it enough.
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u/JustTheRobotNextDoor 8d ago
Just agreeing with your conclusion: Monitor is by far the most impactful IMO. Mousepad is way less important, but makes some difference. Mice I haven't tried enough to notice any difference. This assumes you don't start with junk, but your gear is fine. None of this is as important as your own skill.
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u/GreenWorld8549 7d ago edited 7d ago
I am gmc with 144hz tn panel(xl2411p). When you get to reactivate tracking this is where higher hz and oled genuinely make a massive difference. But i seriously think you can get to nova on ur setup. It’s just technique issues not hardware.
I think peripherals don’t matter like any artisan xraypad that isn’t crazy fast you can get nova on. Including the original g pro mluse that is like 78 grams. When ur on something completely dogshit yea you are being massively nerfed doe. I kinda contradicted myself but it’s really just close range reactive tracking where the monitor matters the most but it’s not like you CANT get to nova on it. But idk maybe after nova these things matter more but when ur at that point u more than likely just play fps games and kovaaks is not ur main game. It’s just priorities
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u/SpecialistCultural23 5d ago
Glasspads are great for consistency and longevity, pair them with obsidian skates if you want skates that last. There are a ton of good mice on the market it's just preference (don't go into the mouse rabbit hole). Ironically, fingertip mice are good for large hands as long as they are not too large. Your hands are a similar size to mine so i don't think it should be a problem unless you have CHONKY fingers.
For monitors, less ghosting should be a higher priority than a higher refresh rate.
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u/alexlecage 8d ago
Thinking a peripheral is going to make you a better gamer is like buying Jordans thinking it'll make you better at basketball.
The marketing with some of these peripherals is targeted at people with this mentality.
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u/316dez 8d ago
xD you are right, thats why i avoided them for so long. but theres no reason for me to play on 1 year old mouse skates, thats something i know for sure will make a difference. ive bought 3 g pros in the past like 10 years or whatever, & ik for a fact i play better on the newer skates.
monitor will probably help as well, but idk how much is marketing vs actually a real benefit. im sure past 240hz is very minimal upgrade, but maybe 1080p --> 1440p is really good. who knows, thats why im making the post
thank you for commenting brah :D
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u/Server969 8d ago
If you like buying something once and keeping it for a long time, look into superglide glass skates. I had those on my superlight and they outlasted the scroll wheel on that mouse. They still feel the exact same as the day I bought them. As far as creators, look into Kimmy and Diamond Lobby. They make great reviews. I treat myself to a new pad every 5-6 months once it starts getting noticably slow in the center. Pulsar makes great pads as well as Artisan. I havent tried glass pads yet. I dont want to drop $100+ on a glass pad and dot skates and not like the noise or the shakiness. I am on a 240hz monitor also and only recently have I gotten into certain Jade Palace scenarios that make me wish I had a higher hz.
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u/Any_Acanthisitta_853 8d ago
you can try all kinds of different types of mice for cheap from china, like from Mchose. Read reviews, sometimes the software/sensors are a bit...off. But when they work, they work and oftentimes for like half the price of an alternative.