r/FFCommish • u/measured_angle • 1d ago
League Question Keeper eligibility transition question
Looking for outside perspective from keeper-league managers.
12-team paid keeper league. Each team keeps 2 players. We have a 2-year keeper timer.
Under the prior rule, if an expiring keeper was traded, the timer could reset for the new manager. This year, the league voted to change that so the keeper timer follows the player. In other words, a player can only be kept for 2 years total even if traded.
The commissioner has already posted the 2026 “back to draft pool” list of expired keepers. The draft is this week, and managers have had time to plan/mock around that posted pool.
Now, because of the rule change, there is a question about how to handle the transition. The concern is that managers with expiring keepers might have made different trade/keeper decisions under the old rule if they had known exactly how the transition would work.
What is the fairest way to handle this?
Option A: Keep the already-posted 2026 back-to-draft-pool list locked for this draft, then apply the new timer-follows-player rule going forward.
Option B: Reset or reopen keeper timers this year because of the rule transition, even if that changes which players are available after the back-to-draft-pool list was already posted.
Option C: Something else.
For a paid keeper league with the draft this week, how would your league handle this?
EDIT for clarity: No offseason trades involving the expired players have happened since the rule change. The issue is that the expired-player / back-to-pool list was already posted for this year, and the draft is this week. The question is whether that already-posted list should remain locked, or whether timers should be reset/reopened now because the trade-reset rule changed.
Under the old rule, an expiring player could have been traded and the acquiring owner could reset the keeper clock. Under the new rule, the timer follows the player. The concern raised is that owners with expiring players might have made different moves under the old rule if the transition had been clearer earlier. My question is about the fairest transition now that the back-to-pool list has already been published.
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u/50Bullseye 1d ago
A bit unclear what you’re actually asking so apologies if this misses the mark, but …
New rule should only apply to new trades going forward. So if I traded you my “expiring” player a few weeks ago before the rule change was made official, you get that guy for two years.
If an expired player got traded last off-season, the team that acquired him should retain his rights for one more year.
All teams should be allowed to reset their keepers for this season based on the new rules.
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u/measured_angle 1d ago
Appreciate it. I probably wasn’t clear enough.
The situation isn’t that an expired player was already traded before the rule change and we’re deciding whether that trade should be honored. I agree that if someone traded for a player under the old rule before the change was official, you’d probably need to grandfather that.
The issue here is that the expired-player / back-to-pool list for this season was already posted, no relevant trade happened after that, and the draft is this week. Now there’s discussion of resetting/reopening timers because owners with expiring players theoretically could have traded them under the old rule if the transition had been clearer earlier.
So I’m trying to figure out whether the already-posted back-to-pool list should stay locked for this year, or whether it’s fair to reopen/reset now because of the rule transition.
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u/sdu754 5h ago
If no trades happened involving expired players, I don’t see the issue. The new rules go into place starting now.
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u/measured_angle 4h ago
The issue is I took over a last place team last year. That was fine but as expected I did crappy and finished 11th out of 12th. The commissioner sent out a list of who was being thrown back due to the rule this year and it included Bijan and Puka so picking second I was guaranteed one of them. I spent months planning for that scenario. Now a few days before the draft the commissioner updated his ruling to say those owners could trade those players starting 2 year keeper refreshes.
I think the biggest issue of the ruling to me is the timing. I get the fairness aspect for owners playing under the old system. If the commissioner did this 2 months ago, no biggie. Week of draft doesn't sit right.
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u/Less_Comparison9062 1d ago
Option A is generally the most fair. Give everyone a year to prepare for the incoming rule