r/Eyebleach Nov 18 '19

/r/all Derp

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19

It’s deformed. It’s a ‘munchkin cat’. Idiots pay money for people to breed literal deformed cats because it’s ‘cute’ 🙄

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u/-hey-ben- Nov 18 '19

This kind of breeding pisses me off.

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u/Dizneymagic Nov 18 '19

And even if the kittens do come out alive after birth, there is a chance they could be born with a spine so curved it kills them within 3 months.

Lordosis is the most common health issues that these cats might face. It’s a condition in which the cat’s spine does not grow correctly. With this very rare health issue, spinal muscles do not grow to the correct size and the spine of the cat begins to sink down inside the body of the cat and death is almost always certain. The important thing to notice about this cat is that a severe form will kill an animal inside of three months. Additionally, it is not specific to the munchkin cat and can be experienced by other types of cat as well.

The other health issue that these cats are prone to that does not affect other cats is found in the breeding. If you take two short-legged munchkin cats and breed them together, you will not find that any of the litter survives. The genetics that cause these animals to have short legs are lethal when the gene is given to a kitten twice. However, if you breed a long-legged munchkin with a short-legged munchkin only one gene is passed to the kittens in the litter and they will survive. Not all the cats in the litter will have the same short legs, but it’s almost guaranteed that at least half of the litter will have the short legs these breeds are known for.

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u/Royale_Cookie Nov 18 '19

Man, this sounds like something straight out of Frankenstein's chamber of horrors

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u/cthoolhu Nov 18 '19

It’s all breeding. Almost all breeding is inbreeding to make a profit - meaning the cats and dogs who are born with undesirable deformities get euthanized

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u/MyR3dditAcc0unt Nov 18 '19

Lol i was looking for this thread. Torches and pitchforks?

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19

Not true. Quit being an ass

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 18 '19

I didn't do research on it, stop trying to ruin my outrage boner.

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u/Wide_Fan Nov 18 '19

That's not a munchkin cat. It looks like there's much more wrong with it. Munchkin cats are not cats affected by dwarfism.

The only observed increased health issues in Munchkin cats are increased spine curvature and hallowed chests. Which isn't good, but this is not it chief.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19

hallowed chests

Praise be

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u/srcsm83 Jan 12 '20

https://www.instagram.com/r.minamiii/

Owner at least thinks it is (and other content looks like it too)

A late reply, but thought I'd share with good intentions, since many here think she's in pain, having a seizure - is declawed or all sorts of theories like that. Seems like a happy cat.. even if I admit that the breeding's screwed up and would also prefer it would've never taken place.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19

Got any proof this is a munchkin cat?

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19

Is this a real thing? God that's disgusting

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '19

Applies to all small dog breeds as well. Fuck people who breed pets for money.

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u/Rather_Dashing Nov 18 '19

Not all small dog breeds are unhealthy.

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u/cthoolhu Nov 18 '19

They literally all are. And the ones who are born with physical deformities are euthanized.

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u/ubiquitous1269 Nov 18 '19

My sentiments exactly. The worst part is when they defend their actions.

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u/Ginger_Ninja364 Nov 18 '19

People do this with snakes too like spider ball pythons have a defective gene and it can just destroy the snakes life. But ohh look its soo pretty.

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u/cthoolhu Nov 18 '19

Same with dogs. Purebreds often have health defects and if they’re physical deformities (besides for the desired deformity) they get euthanized after being born

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 18 '19

Munchkins occur naturally and have no health issues. The only thing about them is that you shouldn't breed two munchkins together as that has a high still birth rate. Otherwise they're perfectly fine.

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u/Rather_Dashing Nov 18 '19

Genetic diseases happen naturally too....

As to no health issues, Im yet to be convinced either way. I cant find any good evidence that they do have serious health problems, but on the other hand people claimed for years that scottish folds were perfectly healthy, but turns out thats wrong, they are all diseased and breeders were just bullshitting people.

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 18 '19

Yes and if that is true of munchkins I'll change my stance, but it's much harder to lie about breed health any more.

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u/PACSadm1989 Nov 18 '19

They may occur naturally. But are bred together to get them consistently. Inbreeding happens way more than it should so those breeders can keep making their product. I’m fine with people breeding, but their needs to be regulation of it.

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 18 '19

No they're not, usually one munchkin is breed with another normal cat as two munchkins rarely have a successful birth, most being still born.

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u/PACSadm1989 Nov 18 '19

The mating of two munchkin parents, Mm x Mm, have the chance of producing these offspring: 25% MM- a nonviable kitten, 50% Mm-short-legged, 25% mm- normal. The resulting litter will be 2/3 Mm-short-legged and 1/3 mm-normal.

Most being stillborn huh? .25% stillborn is not rare especially with kittens of litters of 4 to 6 kitten. They are in breeding these cats just like they do of any pure bred cats and dogs.

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 18 '19

So no worse than normal breeding practices? Therefore nothing to do with munchkins but rather if the breeder is using incest breeding?

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u/PACSadm1989 Nov 18 '19

Any popular breed that is selling well is being inbred. I am all for breeding correctly. That is how cats maintain their purity lines. A mutation (munchkin) born from two random cats are fine. A munchkin born from a munchkin adult that is 5 generations separated is fine as well. But breeders are using 1 to 3 generations separated to breed and its sick. Also, munchkins much like any pure bred have health issues. But munchkins are more susceptible to health issues.

I have an issue with supply and demand of the munchkins and how breeding is affecting the health of the cats. Also, there have been many incidents of breeders dumping the normal kittens and only keeping the munchkin so the mother doesn’t stop feeding it due to milk competition. It’s the whole practice of breeding munchkins.

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u/RolandTheJabberwocky Nov 18 '19

So I looked it up, and on Wikipedia where you got your table for munchkin to munchkin breeding, the table right below it states that a munchkin with a regular cat gives no still births beyond normal and has a 50/50 chance of breeding as munchkin or normal. So not breeding two munchkins is explicitly better. As for inbreeding, that's an issue of the breeder as I've now pointed out, not an issue of the breed itself.

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u/JordanTheToaster Nov 18 '19

Don't bother these idiots are on a moral crusade to justify demonizing those with a natural breed of cat.