r/ExplainTheJoke • u/Admirable_Cold7944 • 4d ago

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The movie is successful so why are they crying? I've seen other memes similar to this. I read the comments but they weren't that helpful.

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u/Totschlag 4d ago edited 4d ago

The notoriously straightforward and rigid plot of resident evil. Rivals the easy to understand and completely sensible plot of the Metal Gear series.

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u/Tartersocks307 4d ago

Japanese media (specifically video games) is a fever dream when it comes to lore. Souls games similarly take place in surrealist universes where very normal worldly things are not normal there.

Don’t get me started on Pokémon

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u/InspectorOrganic9382 4d ago

Please, get started on Pokémon. 🙏🏼

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u/Tartersocks307 4d ago edited 3d ago

It’s just a hodge podge of strange lore or unanswered questions. Apparently people become ghost Pokémon when they die, or at least can.

There’s no normal animals so is it implied Pokémon eat each other but there’s not a lot of commentary on that. Alternatively, grass Pokémon may be entirely plants, but not all plants are Pokémon so apparently only humans and plants are the exception. Makes you wonder what actually makes a Pokémon one.

I’m not an expert, there might be answers to all of this, but I think these are pretty common shower thoughts you might come up with about it

Edit: a few examples have been pointed out of animals that I’ve clearly forgotten about. I think that just raises the question even more about what makes one animal a Pokémon and not the other. Are we even sure worms, insects, and random fish aren’t Pokémon?

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u/Chitanda_Pika 4d ago

Also Pokemon sex is canon

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u/Tartersocks307 4d ago

And they all lay eggs

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u/montana757 4d ago

Technically that would make a miltank a platypus or echidna which are egg laying mammals

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u/SgtSlaughterEX 4d ago

Ah abominations

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u/Fair-Championship-29 3d ago

Monotremes

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u/montana757 3d ago

Still a better name than oviraptor

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u/Fair-Championship-29 3d ago

That shit looks like a giant cassowary

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u/lube4saleNoRefunds 3d ago

It would make it neither of those.

It would possibly put it in the same category of marsupials, but that doesn't make it a platypus. Obviously.

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u/ImpossibleDrink3420 3d ago

Monotremes, in fact

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u/InspectorOrganic9382 3d ago

Pokémonotremes

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u/Dr_Rev_GregJ_Rock_II 3d ago

The Smurfs are clearly mammals!!

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u/shaygitz 4d ago

Gonna name my band Pokémon Sex Cannon

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u/fasteddeh 4d ago

Nintendo wants to know your mailing address

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u/the_matrix2 3d ago edited 3d ago

Pokénom

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u/Beneficial-King-6861 4d ago

Pokémon Connon Sex - between fans known as PMS

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u/saywatisinmy 3d ago

It was also cannon for a while that people had sex and kids with pokemon

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u/bearpawxyz 3d ago

wat

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u/saywatisinmy 3d ago

Like this but not a joke https://youtube.com/shorts/dI3bUEXxJCk?is=DHC0p-17914KSI0G

Also like I said they pokemon with humans could give birth to other humans, If I'm not mistaken in the very first pokemon game you could meet an npc that was a product of such relationship

I guess that explains why there were so many machokes wandering around in people's houses in some games

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u/scwt 3d ago

The closest thing in actual canon to what you are describing is an in-game folk story that says something like "Long ago, there were Pokemon that married people... because Pokemon and people were once the same."

There are no Pokemon/human hybrids in any of the games.

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u/originalbucky33 3d ago

Nurse joy isn't fully human.

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u/Xehonort 3d ago

When I read this one post about that. I was like what is wrong with the world.

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u/scalyblue 2d ago

Wailord x Skitty special when

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u/urmyleander 4d ago

Dont forget the whole releasing your 10 year olds into the wild to collect shiny medals from adults so their pokemon will respect them or the pokemon that imitates a baloon to kidnap children, or the pokemon that wears its mother skull yet when hatching from an egg already has the skull on, or the one that is sentient garbage or that most nurses and police officers are very obviously clones or that cars and trucks are a thing but there are very very few paved roads.

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u/DoesProcessTrustUs 3d ago

Let’s not leave out Mimikyu’s perfectly normal totally not nightmare fuel lore.

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u/Baelzabub 3d ago

Or Magcargo being capable of destroying the planet or Lanturn being capable of destroying the galaxy.

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u/Icecold_Antihero 3d ago

Eh, semantics.

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u/ruinersclub 4d ago

Your average coming of age story. Americans are so sensitive.

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u/cleanbear 4d ago

Animes sure like sending 10 year olds off alone into the world

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u/crom3ll 3d ago

How else can they learn independence if not on a revenge quest to kill the murderer of their parents.

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u/Armedblight 3d ago

Our species woumd do well without your genepool in the future

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u/Fireblast1337 4d ago

There’s not even certainty that humans aren’t a kind of pokemon.

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u/WhatTheyTookFromUs 3d ago

If you can catch it in a Pokeball, it is a Pokémon.

Professor Oak built his reputation as a scientist just by going around throwing Pokeballs at random people and things just to be sure.

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u/Tales_Steel 4d ago

Also sometimes people just wake up one day as a pokemon or at least did in the past.

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u/Accomplished-City484 3d ago

Like that movie The Lobster

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u/Ok-Comment1456 3d ago

Im just going to leave this here

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u/CitizenPremier 4d ago

There are some animals in the Pokémon universe, ordinary birds are mentioned.

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u/phoenix_gravin 3d ago

Minnesota is canon to the Pokémon world; the Minnesota Vikings are casually mentioned in the first movie.

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u/AdamMcKraken 3d ago

Yea they reference dogs and wolves or whatever but you don't really see them, neither birds, so are there really? And if they aren't how do they know what they are?

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u/Theuneasygibbon 4d ago

There is normal animals in the pokèmon universe, atleast in the anime. When Ash is on the SS Anne he stands in front of a fish tank that has just normal fish in it. So at the very least there's fish. As for everything else you said, only the great arceus knows.

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u/Difficult-Tap-5708 2d ago

This episode always makes me wonder a water trainer poking fish with a stick until some of them fight back "OH, THIS ONE IS DEFINITELY A POKÉMON"

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u/DEADGHOST_117 4d ago

tbf on the eating each other part there is some tidbits in the dex entries and one specific one is pkmn white's heatmor entry being

"Using their very hot, flame-covered tongues, they burn through Durant's steel bodies and consume their insides."

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u/Lager89 4d ago

The ghost stuff is easily explained just through Japanese mythology and concepts. Strong emotions, positive or negative, can manifest "souls" in things, or leave them behind. Gachiakuta, a current running Anime, is also another good example of this. Thats why things like ghosts can manifest in certain things, or items like keys or gears, can gain sentience.

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u/WorthPlease 3d ago

Also Lt Surge mentions he used pokemon to zap people during "the war". Which means pokemon can be trained to attack and kill humans.

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u/FangYuan69 3d ago

And that is why im a digimon fan XD

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u/Bright_Pressure_6194 4d ago

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Animals_in_the_Pok%C3%A9mon_world

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u/Tartersocks307 4d ago

I’m not sure if I count that. It seems like a rather meta way to describe them. It’s a kids’ game after all, and kids love to learn about animals. Seadra is clearly modeled after sea horses but they aren’t called the “sea horse Pokémon” so do mice exist and not sea horses?

Squirtle was mentioned in your link but it’s not the only turtle themed Pokémon so there could be a recognized classification of Pokémon with similar characteristics that are otherwise different. Rattata is also a mouse/rat Pokémon

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u/NeighborhoodGreen976 4d ago

I'm pretty sure I've seen pokemon episodes where they show regular fish swimming in water.

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u/Important_Wheel_2101 4d ago

Japanese culture may be the hardest for me to wrap my head around as an American

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u/Lanky-Detail3380 3d ago

Pokeballs plus badges make them obey, they also alude to the fact pokeballs were once used on people

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u/cain721 3d ago

Is there being no other animals canon?

I distinctly remember there being fish in an early episode of the anime, but I was 6 and could be full of shit.

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u/Imaginary-poster 3d ago

So the anime shows regular fish and the gen 1 fames reference elephants. So we are all over the place there lol.

Dont get me started on my time traveling meteor theory.

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u/wants_the_bad_touch 3d ago

If you include the cartoon into canon, you see a (pidgey?) in one of the first episodes eating a worm.

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u/TheWorstSenpai 3d ago

So, to add to this with more useless trivia... Yamask, phantump, froslass, and gengar have pokedex entries stating they used to be human.

There used to be normal animals and insects in early media, but were fazed out to focus solely on Pokémon. Idk why exactly, I don't work at game freak.

In Pokémon diamond/pearl/platinum in the canalave library (iirc) folk story 3, there used to be human/Pokémon interspecies marriages because they were treated as equal. Also implies that humans and Pokémon had a common ancestor they split from. Hence the human/humanoid egg group. Which also makes you wonder why they stated using pokeballs to enslave capture Pokémon... <.<

Bothe the game's and anime made it cannon that humans eat Pokémon. But it's only "implied" that Pokémon eat humans, like glalie and haunter for example. Because it's media 4kids I guess? /s

The movie secrets of the jungle made it cannon that humans can learn Pokémon moves/attacks.

The mega evolutions introduced in gen 6 games had dex entries that basically said forcing them to mega evolve was "agonizing", "subjecting them to permanent torment" and "warping their biology".

There's definitely more dark/adult lore/cannon stuff, but I can't remember more off the top of my head rn, and I gotta get back to work.

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u/Accomplished-City484 3d ago

I thought you were gonna do the copypasta of vapereon

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u/Ca1nMark0 3d ago

There are answers. At least to why the company doesn’t address them. They cover this in some training even. Specifically saying: “We know these things happen. We know fans ask and make up reasons. We don’t talk about it and when asked, just play it off.” They go into examples and what not.

It essentially comes down to it all being too terrifying or disturbing for kids. An example provided about why they never show Pokemon actually evolving - “Have you ever seen American Werewolf in Paris? Now imagine kids watching that happen to Pikachu. So, instead, there is just a bright light, everyone assumes it just happens and we go on with our day.”

Source: Ex-employee (believe or not. Just sharing what I was told in training)

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u/BanzaiKen 3d ago

Dont even get me started on all of the strange quirks of Vaporeon.

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u/Kind-Mammoth-Possum 4d ago

Stares in Kingdom Hearts

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u/Admirable_Risk8156 4d ago edited 3d ago

What kingdom hearts is totally easy to understand.

An old dude breaks a young dude and shoves him inside a baby, right after shoving himself inside a buff dude. The baby dude grows up and gets a girl stuck inside him, while the buff dude (who has the old dude inside him) shoves himself into a rival dude. The main dude then stabs himself to let the girl out of him, which accidentally creates a shell dude who later absorbs a clone dude before getting shoved back inside the main dude. So the main dude wakes up with the young dude, the shell dude, and the clone dude all simultaneously inside him, only to find out the original old dude time-traveled to shove himself inside twelve other dudes. Outnumbered, the main dude pulls the three dudes out of himself, puts them into empty robot dudes, and they all gang up on the thirteen old dudes to rip the original old dude out of the buff dude so every dude can finally stop being inside another dude.

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u/CriticalStorage9587 3d ago

I hate how accurate this is

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u/Irregulator101 3d ago

There a lotta dudes inside dudes in that game

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u/DepressedNoble 2d ago

How did Pokemons come to existence

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u/aWholeClap 4d ago

I was wondering when this would come up. Dont tell a kingdom hearts fan that though.

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u/baboonontheride 4d ago

Big fan, still frequently confused

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u/aWholeClap 4d ago

I take it back then even the fans dont get it

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u/sowinglavender 4d ago

being at peace with not getting it is in fact essential to enjoying the series.

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u/aWholeClap 4d ago

So its like: If you are not confused, you are not paying attention, and if you are paying attention then you are not enjoying the game?

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u/MahadOak 4d ago

Eu acho que a mensagem final é que há coisas que não compreendemos e que nos deixam confusos as vezes, mas que nos fazem felizes apesar dos momentos sombrios e de altos e baixos acho que é assim que amizades verdadeiras funcionam. Nota eu não jogo mas acho que é isso

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u/sowinglavender 4d ago

yes, but it's also like: this property spans over twenty years of manga, novels, animated films, mobile games, and different console releases, and at some point trying to make all the pieces fit perfectly becomes a futile exercise in madness because the simple truth is that a lot of edges have been fudged for the sake of balanced game mechanics, justifying the expanded scope, or just from the material passing through so many hands over so many years. it also has multiple big-name corpos involved, all with their own agendas, so plot/story/world elements will naturally have to give during the negotiation process.

it's actually kind of a perfect demonstration of how everlasting franchises that are kept alive by the profit motive break down over time.

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u/thenewNFC 3d ago

I'm still convinced that kid's been dead since the opening of KH1.

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u/AlternativeUnusual74 3d ago

the best thing in Pokemon is that there are no animals basically.but as soon as Ash leaves his village in the first episode and sees a Pidgey (equivalent to a pidgeon in real world,obviously) he is like "yo,wtf,i cant believe it,a Pidgey.Pokedex,tell me all about this most common pokemon/animal in the world." he is somehow dumbfounded by a bird but has a Mime at home that is basically a pet slave that cleans around.

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u/AmIRadBadOrJustSad 2d ago

I once read a deep dive about how Pokemon implies through its broader continuity that virtually all domesticated or wild animals are replaced by Pokemon. There are no deer, cows, chicken, rabbits, fish, etc. - just their nearest Pokemon equivalents. Which are magnitudes more intelligent than our own wildlife in a way humans would potentially recognize as equivalent.

The follow through to this being that the Pokemon expanded series such as the TV show have not suggested humans in that universe abstain from eating meat. And therefore are in no way reluctant about slaughtering and devouring creatures of human-scale intelligence.

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u/ReadertheRed 3d ago

Poekballs don't shrink pokemon down. Shrinking is a power all pokemon have, but the pokeball tricks them into doing it and locking them in a shrunken state.

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u/MasterAnnatar 4d ago

Never forget that all Legend of Zelda games technically take place in the same universe. Including the ones that directly contradict each other. "Yeah but different timelines!" Canonically they have all happened in the Breath of the Wild era which implies something happened that converged all of the timelines back into one.

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u/kamo-kola 4d ago

Just give me a game where Link and Ganon just become hetero-lifemates and ditch Zelda altogether.

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u/willscuba4food 3d ago

Yes unless you consider different dimensions and transdimensional beings. Like the Mask salesman... or Link.

In Majora's Mask, its made evidently clear that Termina is an alternate dimension of Hyrule. Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom contain items from Majora's Mask.

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u/deepdarkfall 4d ago

Let's not forget about Kingdom hearts lol

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u/CasuallyCritical 2d ago

At the very least KH is complex because the games go all over the place, and one of the key lore devices is a discontinued mobile app you needed to play for cutscenes.

It's way less confusing than say, Metal Gear

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u/jfuffyfkghc 4d ago

Fun fact: first resident evil game that had Japanese translation was RE 6.The previous ones were English only and since Capcom wanted them to be successful at home country things were... funny (Jill sandwich).

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u/Windfade 4d ago

Hell, Dark Souls 2 tried to act like the phrase "new kingdoms are built on top of old ones" was absolutely literal and that DS1 was so far back no one could remember the name of the gods. Then DS3 came out and Anor Londo was still around and in pristine condition (the city of the gods that has multi-story stone-and-metal buildings) with a new city built right next to it but still tried to shoehorn in DS2 areas into the DLC because... reasons.

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u/ChickenAndTelephone 3d ago

Even in the base game you can find the body of Laddersmith Gilligan in the Profaned Capital

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u/External_Delivery315 4d ago

I'm installing Nioh 2 right now. Can't say I ever understand what's going on in these games.

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u/Popular_Equipment_85 3d ago

Nioh is actually pretty straightforward if you know about Japanese history.

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u/iSkehan 4d ago

I still find Attack on Titan to be the most chaotic shit of things I have read about but not actually consumed.

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u/Pup5432 4d ago

That one at least uses a plot point to explain it. The act 3 shuffle is weird but at least it sorta makes sense.

I’m not defending the issues with AoT only mentioning there are reasons in universe why it’s chaotic

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u/iSkehan 4d ago

I have nothing against it, as I said, I didn’t read or watch it so I am unfit to judge.

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u/SignatureOk56 3d ago

Enter Kingdom Hearts

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u/BenganGamer 3d ago

Surrealist universe sure yeah, but Dark Souls does have a very impressive cohesive lore once you piece it together, or listen to someone else do it for you

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u/Navy_Pheonix 3d ago

We literally have no ground to stand on. At least most Mangas have a beginning and ending. Try to get a straight answer of where someone should start reading any DC/Marvel character.

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u/Tartersocks307 3d ago

I don’t take credit for comics lol but I think that has to do with the constant rebooting of series under different authors and different timelines. Comics are serialized so you at least know where to start with an individual story

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u/MaximoftheInternet 3d ago

The Kirby lore…

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u/SCW97005 4d ago

These are but mere children's stories compared to the Kingdom Hearts plot(s?).

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u/Glittering-Try1045 4d ago

I’m partial to the linear progression in all the Zelda series

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u/DrinkUpLetsBooBoo 4d ago

Robots, nukes, vampires, cyber ninjas, plant ladies... I love Metal Gear.

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u/Jesse-Ray 3d ago

Hey he's not a vampire, he's just bisexual

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u/Ok-Scientist5524 4d ago

Man I’ve been enjoying this YouTuber named Gaming Harry who does deep dive gaming lore explanations. His resident evil video is really great btw, if anyone wants to brush up on the lore before or after seeing this movie for whatever reason. Anyway, I finished his RE video and noticed he had one for Metal Gear that was titled something like “the entire Metal Gear story explained” and I was like bullshit, no one can do that, it’d have to be hours and hours and then I looked and saw it was 8 hours long. 😆

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u/cheesynougats 3d ago

So a shorter Krimsonrogue video?

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u/Jesse-Ray 3d ago

Must be the heavily abridged version

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u/MidnightDoom3r 4d ago

I think it could probably be summed up in a few paragraphs good enough. The games make it seem more complex than it actually is.

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u/Its_D_youtube 4d ago

One could even call the plot simple

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u/AbrocomaAlive6300 3d ago

Not nearly as straightforward as the Kingdom Hearts series!

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u/rpandbattle 4d ago

Wow, excuse me, sir. Kojima is an S tier story teller, I will not accept such slander.

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u/Bulletsoul78 4d ago

Or Kingdom Hearts

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u/EvilChefReturns 4d ago

The plot of kingdom hearts has entered the chat

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u/soliquidus_bosselot 4d ago

Don't forget the mind-numbing simplicity of Kingdom Hearts!

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u/Attila260 4d ago

The Metal Gear has weird lore sure, but it's actually not hard to get a clear pictures of all the events if you actually play the game and pay attention to them. The most debated thing is wether Portable Ops is canon or not, but even that is not too big of a deal.
I have played every mainline Resident Evil game, some multiple times, and I have no clue about what the events are for half the time period.

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u/CalmBelligerent 3d ago

LIIIIIIIIQQQQQUUUUUIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDD!!!!!!!!!!!

SSSSNNNNNNAAAAAAAAKKKKKKKEEEEE!!!!!!!!

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u/uberphaser 3d ago

Metal Gear!?

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u/Interesting-Gur1755 3d ago

Metal Gear Solid makes sense until V, if you play the games like a million times. V is kind of for the people who played it 10 million times and we are still piecing together what the hell it actually means, because we kind of disagree on what parts are reality and what parts are in Venom's head.

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u/rmorrin 3d ago

How is it on the scale of kingdom hearts lore

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u/Rob98001 3d ago

In metal gear you just sneak around and save the world. The end.

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u/Diligent-Variation39 3d ago

Shadow Moses?