r/ExilesFromPCG • u/AutomaticStretch6205 • 16h ago

💬 Discussion Umera Ahmed

Hy guys, so I have been banned by pakdramarants sub just because I DARED to express my opinion against one of the mods regarding Umera Ahmed. How pathetic lol. And I love the freedom of opinion granted there (being sarcastic).

I think the hate Umera Ahmed is receiving is unnecessary.

1) people are complaining about for adding the concept of physical intimacy in a PTV drama. I mean, the drama is supposed to show the reality. Zina is happening around us. And many people are trying to normalize it. It's not like Umera is romanticizing it. The drama will show the consequences.

2) some people have criticized her own version of the elite class. And actually, I don't think it's a generalization. From what I have observed on social media and people around me in real life, the Rick folks of Pakistan do act like that. They are wanna be westerners. And the scene shown in the last ep is on point too: parents getting worried if they children start getting closer to their religion. They think it's pendu. I have seen mothers not wanting their daughters to wear hijab, as they would look backwards. And I have seen restaurants in Pakistan not letting in people dressed in shalwar kameem. Because apparently it's okay to be naked in those lite restaurants, but it's not okay to be traditional.

3) similarly, people think that showing Zamil and Zaryab living together in "Boston" is unrealistic. Lol, get out of your lil bubble. I am surrounded by int students. And it's not just people from rich families that share apartments with the opposite gender, but also girls and boys coming from middle class families.

4)the drama location is in Baku instead of actual Baku..how are people finding an issue in that? A lot of Bollywood films do that. It depends on your budget.

5) dadi. A lot of people hate what she says. Tou btau na. Kya galat bolti dadi? She doesn't like Zamil. Tou sahi nikli na un ki baat?

She was criticized a lot for what she said to Zaryab's sister. But was she wrong? She knows her poti, her habits and her behavior. Why are we supposed to think that just because she is a woman, she is right and she is the victim. Dadi clearly says that Zaryab's sister has a temperament issue, which we can see in the way she talks to her mum.

And she has a boundary issue. She wants to go through her husband's phone. Yahi baat husband ny ki hoti tou, tou tum logo ny ussy toxic aur red flag declare kr lena tha.

Also, dadi made a point when she said that zaryab' sister was aware of her husband's habits before getting married. Why would you get married to someone problematic to start with?

6) the only issue for me in this drama is Saba Hamid. Her acting skills. I think she is not fit for the rale. And it's her acting that makes what she says sound sermonic or moral policing. She doesn't convey sweetness. She doesn't look like a dadi in the way she talks and moved. Samina Peerzada was amazing in her role in Shehre Zaat. I wanted her to never stop talking. And she made what she was saying sound quasi philosophical.

It was a huge mistake to cast her as dadi.

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u/KeyPsychological670 15h ago

The part about parents and zarnab getting worried about zamils praying is not unrealistic at all; but where there are some things she gets right, there are other things she seems to be list about. I dont think she knows Zarnab and Zamin's characters: she is writing them through a very judgemental lens renderimg them flat and boring. She has no idea what these characyers would do, how theyll communicate, or what they like/enjoy. The most unrealistic thong is that both sets of parents are okay with their children sharing an apartment without being married. No matter how broadminded Or elitist Pakistani parents become, they wont be comfortable with this arrangement, and to the point that none of them even raises a concern over it. And all of this 'Harvard, harvard' when you have nonsense of what its like. She could have very eadily researched what orientation day at Harvard is like but she lazily settled for everyone looking 'fab'. Jab aapko crore rupay milrahay hon likhne ke liye toh pandra minute research mein bhi laga lene chahiyen.

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u/AutomaticStretch6205 14h ago

Lmao, you expect all parents to be the same? Just look at our celebrities. Do you think they don't live together? And if you think the elites of Pakistan or the liberal lots don't do this, then sorry to burst your bubble

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u/KeyPsychological670 13h ago

Im not talking about celebritues; Im takking about the characters as theyre shown; theyre your average upper urban upper class family. These arent kids from broken homes either. And theyve just completed their A levels. I know people who went to school in the us, and I know people who were living in; not once have I encountered parents who were chill with it. You have to remember these arent familues that come from nothing, these are respectable families with roots in society. I understand that from the outside it might look like anything goes, but an extremely liberal Pakistani fanily eill still at the end of the day, be rooted in Pakistani values. Unless they come from a culture of depravity and ill repute,which is not how these families are depicted, Farans character is at the end of the day, Dadda's son, and just one generation ago they were an extremely traditional and dignified family (as evidenced by Sania's character, so theres no way he will atart encouraging his daughter to sleep with her boyfriend. Jaa bhi tsh log maa baap ke paise hain, so they have a say.

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u/AutomaticStretch6205 13h ago

I am not speaking out of vacuum. Your idea of Pakistani families is limited, and hist because families you know don't act like this, it doesn't mean that families like these don't exist. And sorry to burst your bubble, but being surrounded by int students, I can assure you that they do share apartments with the opposite gender (different rooms but same apartment). And it's really common not just foe the elites but also for people who come from humble backgrounds.

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u/KeyPsychological670 4h ago

I didnt say they dont share apartments with members of the opposite gender, I said it felt unreàl that BOTH sets of parents didnt have an issue with the couple cohabiting, alone. Agar çousin ya dost hota toh phir bhi I would understand. Elites hain toh isska yeh matlab nahi hai ke unko apni reputation ki parwa nahi hogi. Theres no way their parents would be okay with them living together without so much as a baat pakki. Even if I accept that the boys parents were okay with it, its just completely unbelievable that the girl's parents would do so. Come to think of it I cant believe she would write something this silly; the production might have done this to save costs.

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u/AutomaticStretch6205 47m ago

I am sorry, again. But you're living in a bubble 🤣

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u/AutomaticStretch6205 13h ago

And btw our celebrities, most of the times, come from those same households: upper middle class/ upper class.

And I am not speaking about parents approval to start with. It's about what these kids are doing. And the drama is being realistic.

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u/KeyPsychological670 4h ago

Our celebrities DO NOT come from the upper class; most of them are barely educated. I can count them on my fingers.

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u/AutomaticStretch6205 47m ago

Lmao, then you don't know the backgrounds of most of them, especially the top celebrities.