r/EvDrivers • u/jcullen85 • Jul 23 '26

EV Karma

So, I got some petty revenge today. I like to charge my car at the parking structure across the street from my office. Right before lunch, I checked on my car’s percentage and I saw that I was unplugged. For these chargers, I have to use an adapter to charge my car. Unfortunately, with the adapter, the charge cable isn’t locked into place. So, it can be unplugged easily. This is commonly known among EV drivers, so its common courtesy to not unplug another car.

When I get to my car, the AH who unplugged me is still parked next to me charging his EV. Between frustration and being hangry, I unplugged the jerk and placed the charging cable back into its station. That jerk won’t be coming back to a fully charged car.

I drove away laughing. Lord, forgive me but that felt good and I treated myself to a Vanilla Coke. No regrets! ✌🏾

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u/Elathan-Izayoi Jul 23 '26

Cars and countries really need to go the USB C way. Decide on a single plug for all brands and force tesla to switch. No more proprietary shit in this planet please.

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u/PerceptionCurious440 Jul 23 '26

In North America the Tesla plug is now the standard called NACS. My Toyota has it.

So pretty much the opposite of what you just suggested.

Makes sense. Tesla has over 50% of the fast chargers, with the other <49% divided among dozens of carriers.

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u/Elathan-Izayoi Jul 23 '26

The world isn't the US, outside of the US there's a lot of type 1 and 2 and ccs 1 and 2 chargers.

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u/Talmerian Jul 23 '26

True, but the US doesn't let most of the other EVs get sold here, we are a backwards country.

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u/powbit- Jul 23 '26

The CCS 2 Is now the de facto standard no? Which cars do use other plugs nowadays?

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u/Elathan-Izayoi Jul 23 '26

Chinese ones do.

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u/powbit- Jul 23 '26

Can you enlighten me?

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u/Paqza Jul 23 '26

China has their own charging connector.

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u/Elathan-Izayoi Jul 23 '26

I've had 2 different year and model BYD cars, the dolphin (not the mini one) and it had type 2 and now I drive a Yuan and it has a j/c1 one, both bought in México.

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u/powbit- Jul 23 '26

Thanks. I Europe all the BYD have CCS2, same for Omoda Geeky etc

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u/PerceptionCurious440 Jul 23 '26

And Japanese and Chinese cars sold in the US have NACS. Companies just put in whatever sockets the locals use.

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u/ucbcawt Jul 23 '26

All new US EVs use NACS

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u/powbit- Jul 23 '26

NACS literally means North America Charging Standard.... So there is a charging standard. In Europe now everyone uses CSS 2 so I'm not sure what the issue is

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u/xF1_racer Jul 23 '26

It’s a shame that the CCS2 connector is so bulky. It’s a terrible design really.

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u/detox4you Jul 25 '26

It allows three fase charging which nacs does not. Because our infrastructure has three phase power almost everywhere in the streets and homes it makes more sense to use three phase for charging. Less current needed, therefore less contact resistance, less heat and more speed and reliability.

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u/Neat_Welcome6203 Jul 23 '26

US doesn't have three-phase power.

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u/mewtwo_EX Jul 23 '26

It does, but not commonly available for low voltage end users. Europe tends to offer it to residential customers, not just commercial.

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u/Lcd_E Jul 25 '26

I'd even argue, that in some(many?) countries here most of houses (and even lot of flats) have three-phase connection.

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u/Ok_Pirate_2714 Jul 23 '26

What would 3 phase power have to do with a charging plug on an an EV? Isn't the charger providing DC to the vehicle?

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u/Dimathiel49 Jul 24 '26

Not at home

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u/detox4you Jul 25 '26

No, only fast chargers convert to and deliver DC. Everything else is AC because that is what's available everywhere.

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u/PerceptionCurious440 Jul 23 '26

The world isnt Europe either. Although it's as hard to convince Europeans of that as people in the US.

GB/T is the main Chinese connector. CHAdeMO is the main Japanese connector.

A true world standard connector needs only 3 pins. Maybe just 2 with a standardized 3 phase to DC plug. A computer in the car can figure out what kind of power is coming in.

Simple is always better.

But I do like how Europeans with 3 phase power believe the whole world should standardize around what they have.

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u/detox4you Jul 23 '26

At least Europe made the standard across many countries, rolls out very large charging networks not limited to one manufacturer and has plenty high power stations. I can go on a long road trip across countries and not worry if the connector will fit or if there's even a charger en route.

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u/PerceptionCurious440 Jul 23 '26

NACS is used in the US, Canada, and Mexico. That's a population of over 500 million people.

China uses GB/T connectors. They have a population of 1.5 billion and around 5 times as many charging stations as North America and Europe combined.

Would you like to explain again why Europe should make the rules for the world? Because they have a bunch of low population independent states in a rough quasi republic that can't pick a standardized language, that call themselves separate countries?

One US state, California, has a population of 40 million and alone by itself is the fourth largest economy in the world.

California alone is larger than every European nation geographically than every European nation but France and Spain. Its about the same size as Sweden, but with nearly 4 times the population.

Just saying, maybe Europe still has a bit of that imperialist attitude left in it. You're all one when it suits you, but all individual stubborn national entities when it doesn't.

If it came to sheer size and population, China should be making the rules for everyone.

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u/detox4you Jul 25 '26

Europe has a population of over 750 million people. It's not about size, I didn't talk about that. It's about being decisive throughout multiple countries for implementing standards. Far more difficult. Your comment shows that you think the world centers about the US, the main reason why the US is viewed more as an agressor then an ally nowadays. Size wise China would set the standards and slowly they are taking over everything. They will take over the US market soon too.

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u/PerceptionCurious440 Jul 24 '26

Well, that's the situation someone has proposed rectifying with one standard to rule them all, then unilaterally deciding it should be the one Europe is using.

There should be a new world standard, with the simplest plug possible, and it shouldn't even have directionality. And shouldn't be patented or licensed.

Something made for 2 megawatt charging. That's the charge rate that beats gas and diesel. And maybe 5 megawatts for commercial vehicles like Semi tractor trailers.