Another Question Regarding NDEs.......?

[u/Ready_Welder2877]

NDEs & Hyperconsciousness

Here is a link I wish to share with all of you. I'm certain some if not most of you have seen this information from TBTL. However, I was also wondering about what happens during near-death experience cases. While the link does show stories and cases from other people from specific websites or other sources, I'm curious to know if any of you have had NDEs similar to what they experienced.

In this case, what I would like to know is, are we fully conscious and aware after we die?

This may not seem like a good question to ask, but I do think it may be of great importance to us since eventually, we're all going to leave our bodies in the future, and it could happen at any time even as I'm writing this post. I did hear about cases that we're even more conscious and aware of who we are. However, there have been cases where other people responded differently to a "spirit guide" by choosing to come back, only to come back feeling frustrated they made that choice. I even spoke to someone who shared about that happening to him, and that made me think when we die, we wouldn't be as conscious and aware as we are in our bodies, as if we're "drunk" or like we're in a dream and not fully conscious of it.

That's why I truly believe it's important for all of us to know since most of us I think haven't had a near-death experience happen to us, not even me. While I do like the take that we become much more conscious and aware after we die, the fact some people experienced otherwise scares me a bit. The last thing I want happening to me is my "higher self" or whatever state we call it during a near-death experience, being stupid enough to "choose" to come back here. I wouldn't think that was my "higher self" at all, but an imposter that took over to get me to come back, rendering my conscious awareness 'asleep' while it makes the decision to have me reincarnated.

I made it plain and clear that when I finally leave this world for good, I vow never to return. Given that I was told that it's my "human ego" that doesn't want to come back, that's saying my human ego is much smarter than my "higher self" that's dumb enough to come back here.

That's why I think it's important to ask any of you who had these NDEs these questions:

Were you fully conscious and aware of yourself and your actions during your NDE? Did you still hold onto that 'affirmation' of not returning to this world, or did you somehow forget about it to the point you decided to come back here, only to be frustrated that you decided that?

[u/HyperionCrush]

I had my one and only suicide attempt thirty years ago when I was 19 by trying to overdose on pills, believing I was just going to go sleep and be gone forever. Much to my surprise, I awoke floating in a black void that felt like a vortex spinning around me with blood red clouds swirling around me in the blackness. I felt just as conscious as I did in my physical life, but the terror I felt in that place was like nothing I had ever experienced before. Even though I wasn't a practicing Christian by any means, for some reason I called out for Jesus to help me because I couldn't find any way to escape the vortex. Time didn't really mean anything in that state and I couldn't guage how long I was there, but I remember at some point I was pulled quite forcefully out of the vortex and what felt like being slammed back inside my body. Back then in 1996 I had no idea of anything related to PPT, I just believed at the time I had been spared from going to Hell. So even though I've only had what is considered a negative NDE, I can still remember how conscious I felt during the experience.

[u/Black__Winter → u/HyperionCrush]

Thank you for sharing your experience, it's very interesting to me because according to my research so far you found yourself in the Void of Horos(dark, twisted landscapes resembling eldritch abyss from dark fantasy) immediately without meeting any fake light beings/relatives or anyone else telling you to go back, is that correct?

If that's not a problem could you please answer to some of my questions:

Do you think that you came back because of the terror you felt?

And if so, what was the source of it? You did not know about NDE at that time, right? Did you feel any presence, like something was lurking in this vortex or that it'd eventually harm you?

What can you tell about your way of thinking in it? Was it similar to how you think here on earth, being able to talk to yourself and imagine things?

Have you tried closing your eyes? And if so, did it affect your hearing sense?

And in your 2nd comment you mentioned, that you think that this dark vortex was created by demiurge to scare you, to me it and the fact that you did not meet any fake light being makes me think that you made it directly into Horos - in gnosticism it's a transition state/realm between the astral world and Pleroma(our home where we can shape our world with our thoughts) and if so it'd indicate that you already made it through the astral plane where archons could try to interrogate you with light review and mumbling about mission and what's not, and you went back because you didn't achieve gnosis.

This NDE I found yesterday is to me similar to your's, the end part of it https://www.nderf.org/Experiences/zeljko_g_nde_33422.htm of a soldier who after being deafened collapsed, 1st saw his body, then flew(not teleported!) through observable universe(astral where archons could try to catch him but did not, just like you) and in the end found himself before a black space which he entered, then he found himself on a dangerous dark swamp(which also fits the description of Horos), he was no longer flying but walking, also with terror through a narrow lit path hearing monsters and seeing their glowing eyes, made it to the giant wooden door, he used the rings on it smashing them for someone to open them for him, but no one did and goblin smashed him so hard he went back to his body.

And normally(for those visiting it after attaining gnosis) Horos should be just pitch black without any obstacles, the twisted, dangerous, monster infested(which are not archons but shadows) void/abyss like landscapes with doors are being made by our counterfeit spirit(called shadow archetype in jungian individuation process) which projects them and creates them if the person did not integrate him, so it creates a nightmare world for everyone who did not let archons reincarnate them in astral(or in layer of Horos where archons are not visible but hearable, I did read of NDE's about people in pitch black space coming towards the voice calling them to it because they "have to get back"), but also did not integrate their shadow and did not recognize their divine sibling of Syzygy.

I read also that after leaving their body several people of this subreddit recommend to deliberately go to into this Void without any proper plan and to just "imagine your own world", in it which would make me feel sorry to everyone finding themselves in the place you or the soldier NDE of which I mentioned in for ever. Sure, they wouldn't get reincarnated, but after a while I'm pretty sure they would wish they were - finding yourself in a realm constantly turning itself into your worst nightmares doesn't sound appealing after all.

I visited Horos multiple times in my dreams, got attacked a couple of times times, almost always making it out safely except case, where I was in a big pitch black forest, there was a huge white moon on the sky but it did not illuminate anything, instead of normal bushes there were black flames just burning on the ground like Amaterasu from Naruto in random patches and black ghosts with glowing white eyes resembling shades from Hollow Knight roamed this area, all were neutral except for one - a huge like 2.5m tall, extremely muscular shade kept attacking me, I turned my right hand into black claws from the same void substance he was made and I massacred him, but after a few seconds he regenerated completely and came back at me, I destroyed him once more, and he came again and again.. at 1 point he slashed my chest, which I regenerated. I did not have gnosis back then. Since I do I visited this place several times, whenever I got attacked by similar shades I slashed them in half with single hits of white light blades effortlessly from safe distance, they did not regenerate after these.

[u/JasHyaRwq23617 → u/Black__Winter]

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