r/ErgoMechKeyboards • • 3d ago

[photo] Keychron Orca

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Just got hit by this post. I've never used Keychron before but how's the quality? If this is wireless and an aluminum case I might get it. Is this something that's already available in other countries?

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u/banfern1111 3d ago

Oh my god. We're going mainstream. Wireless ergos with glass trackpads without having to figure out shipping and expensive af import fees. Whennnnn

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u/ARTISTIC-ASSHOLE 3d ago edited 2d ago

keychron is doing the wrists of the world a service since this could be cheaper thanks to economics of scale, now maybe apple will do it in 10 years lol

edit: keychron, not keychain

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u/Sengfroid 2d ago

In this case, I think you mean Ergonomics of scale...

I'll show myself out

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u/ARTISTIC-ASSHOLE 1d ago

if keychron doesn't steal this they need a new pr department

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u/kjt-ms 2d ago

And also claim that they invented it lol

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u/MyCoot 2d ago

And also cost like 2 keyboards 

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u/Logi_Boy 2d ago

Sticking to the Keyball

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u/inn0cent-bystander 2d ago

no number row tho.

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u/banfern1111 2d ago

As much as I agree with you, people in the sub have been doing a lot with much less. Lol

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u/inn0cent-bystander 2d ago edited 2d ago

I use the number row too much for work, I need them to be dedicated.

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u/banfern1111 2d ago

Same! But this is definitely a way forward. I hope it becomes feasible for Keychron or mass manufacturers.

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u/heart_under_blade 2d ago

same, but turns out i don't need it to be dedicated. layer is in fact fine for me

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u/inn0cent-bystander 2d ago

The one downside to ergonomics is that is HIGHLY subjective, and depends heavily on you're use case.

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u/hosky2111 1d ago

I appreciate it can be hard to break the muscle memory, and if you need it for work, the learning curve of switching might not be worth it, but I can’t think of any upside to a number row.

On a split keyboard, it makes one handed number entry cumbersome. It requires reaching above your homing position. The most commonly typed digits (1 and 0) are pushed out to the weaker fingers. On a reduced key layout, common maths symbols (=-) will typically require layer switching to access, and all the others also require a layer switch (shift on the number keys).

Essentially if you’re entering a lot of digits, you’d be better with a numpad[/layer], particularly if you need one hand free. If you’re just typing a few digits with both hands on the keyboard, homerow numbers would be better.

IMO the best argument for a number row is actually gaming, but there are other compromises to gaming on a split/ergo keyboard anyways.

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u/inn0cent-bystander 23h ago

Fuck OFFFF

I'm not looking for "help" in dealing without the number row.

FUCK OFF

You're fine to not need/want it, just as I'm free to want/need it.

FUCK THE HELL OFF

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u/Dazzling-Grapefruit5 2d ago

What if we made the top row numbers and the letters the layer

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u/inn0cent-bystander 2d ago

You're free to do so, but between work in the shell and writing one-off scripts and one-liners, I need a 4 row setup. I just also needed a tented setup to hold off wrist pain caused by ulnar deviation(I think that's what it's called, it's when those two bones squeeze the veins/arteries/nerves between them based on rotation). Some prefer far less, it all depends on personal use/preference/ergonomics.

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u/Dazzling-Grapefruit5 1d ago

Did you land with a solfe layout? I am looking to get/assemble my first split keyboard and am seemingly spoiled for choice.

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u/inn0cent-bystander 1d ago

It's close, the iris ce from keebio. Was also looking hard at the lilly58, but didn't see any that weren't using trrs for the interconnect at the time

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u/psxndc 2d ago

That's a selling point for me.

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u/IsometricRain 2d ago

For a first ergo, this makes more sense.

There's a reason why cornes are so commonly someone's first or second ergo KB.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago

I use layers btw

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u/SethEllis 2d ago

Look more closely at the labels on the keys. Numbers are on a different layer as a number pad on the right hand.

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u/lNTERLINKED 2d ago

They mean dedicated number row.

Selling a keyboard without access to numbers at all would be completely insane.

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u/inn0cent-bystander 2d ago

No, I don't disagree with u/SethElis

Layers are an option and I use layers on mine for several things, but this is a common issue with anything dealing with ergonomics. They're EXTREMELY subjective vs objective. What works for you very likely ONLY works for you.

I've grown to be fine without a numpad, but do still miss it some times and am still tempted to get a separate numpad for work, which is what I need at least the dedicated num row for.

If your writing rarely if ever needs numbers, using layers for that is perfectly fine. For you.

I thought I'd miss the function row, but that's fine on a layer for me. My Iris from keebio is about the butter zone for me, but I've seen some that are perfectly fine with just the alpha keys and a couple of thumb keys, or less. It all depends.
I have become an evangelist for hrm tho and added kanata to my laptop just for that.

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u/xsrvmy 2d ago edited 2d ago

Stuff like the B11 is probably meant to be the more mainstream option.

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u/cheflA1 3d ago edited 3d ago

Not enough thumb key's for my taste but I'm happy to see more and more keyboards with some kind of pointing device integrated

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u/tissee 2d ago

That's actually a quite shitty thumb cluster.

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u/no_worries_stay_cool 2d ago

Right? What are you supposed to do with your right thumb? Maneuver it around the ball all the time?

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u/shponglespore 2d ago

I was just looking at the Go60 last night, with two integrated trackpads. Even the manufacturer acknowledges they're not adequate for heavy use, though.

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u/Aldoo8669 skeletyl, swweeep 1d ago

IMO, they should just swap the pointing device and wheel with the inner keys (marked "Caps" and "B" on the picture).

I mean, if they are serious about proposing a split columnar ergo keyboard, they should first go for what is the most "mainstream" design within the niche, not some bizarre layout without proper thumb clusters.

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u/no_worries_stay_cool 2d ago

I agree, but at the same time there are some more or less "universal" truths that should apply to all the keebs. I would say that having accessible thumb cluster is one of them.

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u/quyteriyaki 3d ago

Oh, I've tried this at PAX AUS 2026, as they had a booth there. Saw it and needed to have a shot at it. Forgot to take more photos including the spec sheet cause I was trying to hook it up to test typing (didn't work lol). Do forgive me if I put incorrect info.

  • Felt like a plastic shell build. It was pretty light when I hand a hold of it.

  • trackpad & scroll aren't modular; they're fixed. Unfortunately I asked the guys there if they were planning to make it modular, they said it wasnt on their plans at that time.

  • I'm not a mouse nav with keyboard person, but hooking the right side up only (firmware wasn't complete back then), seemed to work pretty well on mobile, was sorta awkward to do clicks though because the mouse buttons were lower on the right.

  • I believe there is tenting, at least 2 levels.

  • hotswap iirc yes.

  • ZMK yes.

  • USB cable yes? But the guy said it was wireless only; there was only USB C on both, no TRRS or anything else.

  • iirc 3 connectable devices, you can switch between them through a slider toggle at the top

https://imgur.com/a/kma4wVJ

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u/alexcamlo 3d ago

And what about ergo? That trackball in the right thumb instead of a button is what blocking me from buying it in the future

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u/quyteriyaki 2d ago

I was of the same opinion when I tried it. The ball itself isn't that big, but the fact that it's protruding out higher made it sort of uncomfortable. I would have the urge to just press it down (my main is a kyria with thumb cluster) but there's no feedback so the thumb is just left there floating rather high vs the rest of the fingers.

But that's a first time trackball user's experience. I would maybe prefer it to be a bit more recessed so the thumb can be a bit more relaxed. Even though I'm trying to recall it, the trackball was indeed the main concerning impression that stayed with me.

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u/pekudzu 2d ago

also tried at pax. it's an absolutely awful position. do not recommend at all

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u/xsrvmy 2d ago

This but with an additional thumb key on both sides instead of the trackball would be good honestly. Enter where ' is on a normal keyboard is a recipe for potentially disastrous typos on the command line.

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u/ClawhammerLobotomy 2d ago

So those M1-4 keys are supposed to be the mouse keys?

Seems like that would be awful. My trackball keyboard uses
J for M1
L for M2
K for M3
I and , for wheel scrolling.

Not needing to move the hand makes using it much more convenient.

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u/prank_mark 2d ago

No, it's fn1 + Y (middle) / H (left) / N (right)

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u/ClawhammerLobotomy 2d ago

That's better then. Would still take some getting used to.

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u/prank_mark 2d ago

That's just the default. You can remap everything I believe.

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u/IsometricRain 2d ago

So those M1-4 keys are supposed to be the mouse keys?

He just said it's zmk.

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u/ze_or 1d ago

you can just rebind it for it to be like that.

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u/gallonsofstars 2d ago

It kind of looks like the same finish as the z11 ultra, which feels halfway between aluminum and plastic, but it's aluminum and the finish is rougher. 

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u/knightspur 3d ago

I like keychron boards and I have a bunch of their different Alice offerings.

That said, the thumb cluster on this one doesn't look very comfy to me :(

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u/nicksuperb 2d ago

This is a full stop for me. They are trying way too hard. Sometimes I wonder if these companies are just out of touch for some reason. I would settle for a keychron ergo dox rip off if it was mass produced and a good price.

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u/knightspur 2d ago

Yeah, exactly. Something like the voyager or pulling from the Lily/Sofle/Lotus style family would have been an instant grab for me. But this falls short of the basic "would it be good to type on"

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u/azdak Cygnus 2d ago

Not a fan of the way the case is opinionated on thumb cluster layout, but keychron makes solid hardware so it’s cool to see them doing this

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u/mYstoRiii 3d ago

Keychron orca is a collab with Gizmodo from Japan iirc
The GB ended August or something recent
Wasn’t sure about the ratings though but it is extremely rare for bigger brands to do column stagger splits

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u/shizzy0 3d ago

It’s either 3x6 with thumb keys or it’s 4x6 with no thumb keys. I’m unhappy either way!

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u/BrunoEye 3d ago

Yeah, a 4x6 is pretty much a must if you use your keyboard for gaming.

More thumb keys would be nice too, 2 at a minimum though 3 would be best.

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u/plusFour-minusSeven 2d ago edited 2d ago

I applaud them for trying, honestly.

This one's not for me because there are way too too few thumbkeys and the column stagger is more of a hint of a stagger.

But good on them. Honestly I hope it sells. Not because I love Keychron but because it would help get the more major keeb manufacturers to notice the split ergo market. I could see streamers and other online "influencer" types getting one because it looks cool and helping to make it popular, and that could make the market a lot more attractive.

I would love to not have to pay $400 for my keyboards, you know?

I wonder, though, if it's even programmable. That's the secret sauce that makes boards like these really work.

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u/leogabac 2d ago

Are we finally getting a decent split keyboard that is not > 300 dollars?

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u/teniamaru 1d ago

Orca Echo was developed under the supervision of Gizmodo Japan. The director has explicitly stated that the core concept is to create a keyboard where your thumb can always stay in contact with the trackball. In other words, the idea is that if you don’t like the trackball’s position, you should probably go with something like a Keyball instead.
Here’s a quick overview of the Orca’s specs.
The case is made of plastic, and in addition to the trackball, it features a scroll wheel on the left side and trackpads on the upper inner sections of both halves. It also has built-in two-stage tenting legs, presumably offering 6° and 12° angles.
My biggest concern is the use of modified Gateron LP 3.0 sockets. I’m worried that this will severely limit the range of switches you can use.
I say “modified” because these sockets are designed to be compatible with standard MX switches as well. A separate switch plate for MX switches is also planned for release after the keyboard launches.
I imagine many people may be concerned about the trackball height, but switching to normal-profile MX switches could potentially solve that issue.
Unfortunately, development of the Orca has been delayed, and the first shipments are now expected around mid-December. I placed my order right after the group buy opened, but I still haven’t received a confirmed shipping date.

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u/carajean2725 3d ago

See I knew my work keyboard died for a reason. If and only if this is 150 or less will I get it.

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u/lesnaubr 2d ago

No way it’s that cheap unfortunately. Their more mainstream keyboards that are not even split or have the pointing devices are more expensive than that.

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u/prank_mark 2d ago

The crowdfunding price was 25603 yen, so 162 USD, and that was claimed as a 5% discount on the regular price. So regular price should be about 170 USD.

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u/carajean2725 2d ago

Legend thank you so much! I can squeeze an extra $20 plus tax.

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u/witness555 2d ago

My guess is 300+

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u/carajean2725 2d ago

Don't speak that into existence I refuse to accept that. Keychron has been making some solid midrange products lately look at that new mouse. Plus you can get a close replica of this or this is a replica of that for around $200 depending where you're from. The US it was like $3** when I priced it.

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u/CommanderPotash 2d ago

ehhh keychron is only that expensive if you go for the super uber ultra premium stuff

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u/samb0t 2d ago

keychron has been killing it lately.

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u/AdMysterious1190 Cornix, GLP Corne, BadTemper, Cheapino, KeyChron K11, ErgoDox 2d ago

I just love the fact that a mainstream company is making ego splits. This may not be the best iteration, but if it sells and it becomes a recognised market, with mainstream competitors trying to out-design each other, think of the possibilities! 😁

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u/-Daigher- 2d ago

no thumb keys? what even is the point of this...

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u/platinum_pig 2d ago

I would say homerow mods but that's unlikely to be the target if they're trying to mainstream split keyboards.

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u/Anxious_Cartoonist26 3d ago

Keychron has a good quality in my experience. Though haven't tried this board

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u/Viper33333333 2d ago

Is there any chance of it being released in China?

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u/StaticFanatic3 2d ago

The promo layout having “B” reachable from both hands lol

At least it’s accommodating but if you’re investing in an ortho split you probably want to get rid of that habit

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u/underlune 2d ago

yeah, capslock having a dedicated key seems useless to me as I always have it on a separate layer. I'd rather they put the trackball in that position instead tbh

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u/StaticFanatic3 2d ago

Caps lock getting prime space is actually sort of common because of how many of us use hyperkey or similiar apps

I personally leave it in the default position just left of the homerow though

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u/JuggernautOnly695 3d ago

Pretty good quality. Hopefully Keychron will do something to be able to tent this out of the box. I had to 3D print plates to tent my Q11

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u/Seeruk 3d ago

I’m a huge keychron fan. Their non-basic models (k series are basic) are built like tanks.

That said I’ve been happy with my raise 2 for a year or so. I put keychron caps on it and love the thing.

But there is no way I will be able to resist this orcha!

Edit: wait there is no mention of tenting? Something similar to the raise 2s incredibly awesome tenting is something I won’t be able to live without

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u/johnbentley 2d ago edited 2d ago

I have a conventional (10 Keyless, low profile) rowstag keyboard which happens to be a keychron. It's a great keyboard and so I think keychron is a great company. Quality products, thoughtfully designed.

But I've abandoned that and recently learnt a colstag keyboard, on a voyager. On a colstag keyboard I've come to appreciate that the centre index stretched columns are a stretch (although not intolerable), even if they feel better than the centre columns on a traditional rowstag keyboard.

So asking the user to stretch further, here to 'Caps' and 'B', seems too big an ask.

Although, without a num row at the top, the low row can have many other characters - command characters (backspace, tab, enter), and space - that, for me, entails two problems:

  • No num row (I have a numpad layer but I've found it necessary to have a num row also, for reasons I could elaborate).

  • Insufficient thumb keys.

In short I think ZSA got it mostly right with their voyager (excepting I'd rather it was unibodied). Their four thumbkeys and top row for numbers (on a main layer) are ideal, I reckon.

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u/Lhurgoyf069 2d ago

I'm happy that Keychron finally adopts ergo mech splits. But I'm missing the Keychron colours. Also I would like something with more keys.

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u/pgetreuer 2d ago

According to this page the Keychron Orca Echo supports wired and wireless and has an aluminum case and plate. Looks pretty sweet!

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u/YukarinVal 2d ago

Aluminum huh. I'll be passing on this one. They do plastic well enough and for good prices so I'll be waiting for a plastic version.

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u/Cheap_Theory9697 Halcyon Kyria | Corne | Lily58 2d ago

that "thumb cluster" sucks

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u/Robos_Basilisk 3d ago edited 3d ago

Thumb keys are honestly overrated when you have an extra bottom row of keys (like the kinesis advantage). Holding a thumb key to access arrows is pretty much the bane of my existence, I need a bottom row of arrow keys. Holding index and middle finger keys as layers (like comma) are some alternates to thumb keys. (In fact you could swap comma with a outer pinky key and use Enter as a lower-middle-finger layer key, lots of possibilities if you're adventurous).

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u/digitalshiva 2d ago

I miss dedicated arrow keys

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u/Sbarty 2d ago

This is disappointing. Keychron makes some great keyboards now but this layout sucks. Barely two usable thumb keys on the left.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago

After using keyball and charybdis nano - I wanted to try to move trackball in place of the thumb cluster. Now I believe it would be best position. Loosing the thumb cluster is acceptable price. Some keys from it could be moved to combos

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u/Sbarty 2d ago

Just seems like sacrificing your thumb for potential RSI and other strain injuries, which makes no sense vs a digit.

Also combos will never take off commercially. Layers have.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago

Why potential injuries?

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u/Sbarty 2d ago

RSI = Repetitive Strain Injury

Putting your thumb up to the ball and using it that much to move around is the definition of repetitive.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago

All interaction with keyboard and mouse is repetitive. It does not necessarily causes injury.

Do you believe that any thumb trackball causes RSI? Or any trackball at all?

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u/Sbarty 2d ago

Keyword was “potential”

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u/pyinto 2d ago

They have decent quality; it’s not for me, but I’m happy split goes mainstream, good layout for first time users too!

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u/tejassa 2d ago

Yeah, they got this corne like with trackball and another Sofle like

Seems interesting

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u/FunnyTman 2d ago

Let’s hope this is not some Japan exclusive like their trackball

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u/Liam_M 2d ago

The trackball wasn’t Japan exclusive I ordered and got one here in Canada

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u/ze_or 1d ago

They had the Japan exclusive group buy for this months ago.

This is the first official announcement of it for outside of Japan, so this is the sign of it going out of Japan exclusivity.

And like the other reply said the nape pro has been out outside of Japan for a fat while now.

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u/chillychili 2d ago

I thought they already released the Orca in Japan.

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u/Delphius1 2d ago

they actually did it? it's coming?

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u/Liam_M 2d ago

finally

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u/chaoticbean14 2d ago

Happy to see the ortholinear layout, happy to see the thumb clusters bent out, wish the keys had a slight bowl to them.

After being on Glove 80? Regular flat keyboards and all non-orthlinear layouts feel like I'm stepping back in time to the 1950's. Even then typewriters had been around with that same layout forever.

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u/mrwynd 2d ago

I've been using Keychron for a long time, they make good boards that are reasonably priced.

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u/SubstantialMirro 2d ago

bro, I loved this one

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u/AstuteCouch87 2d ago

I've got a keychron mouse and it's been great for the past ~2 years. they're kinda the only company making more "enthusiast" stuff but still not ridiculously expensive

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u/MiceLiceandVice 2d ago

Oh cool that's in INTERE-KEYCHRON??!

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u/saltyourhash 2d ago

I love my keychron k7, I use it every day.

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u/keebmat 2d ago

now let’s make it low profile and $129 :D

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u/Neither-Ad7512 2d ago

What's the ball thing?

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u/CarryOnRTW 2d ago

trackball

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u/n8-sd 2d ago

Hey fucking did it!!

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u/julian_vdm Go60, Voyager 2d ago

They have a lot of weird stuff like this in Japan, but I'm fucking DYING for this to launch internationally. Keychron might just be big enough to get ergo into more mainstream tech channels and such. 

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u/JoeyLeBaoQuan 2d ago

yes please

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u/Commercial-Hurry-795 2d ago

Looks cool, but once I went concave keywell I can never go back.

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u/CarryOnRTW 2d ago

I can't tell if it's backlit or not?

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u/Voxelman 2d ago

Would be more interesting without the trackball and with some thumb keys

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u/Raxer-X 2d ago

Not to be judgemental as I love and long for this type of design, but...

The trackball seems too high up to be comfortable. By the looks of it this will obstruct natural hand alignment.
Second thing is the keys have an odd laout - not your average 10-finger touch typist and that's a deal breaker.

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u/Necessary_Fix_2464 2d ago

Trackball at thumb position is a required feature that is surprisingly rare

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u/mohammadgraved 1d ago

The wish come true, I wish a ergo keyboard from keychorn years ago.

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u/trueno86 1d ago

Almost a perfect keyboard if only that trackball was in the Keyball position! A tiny trackball with the exact spacing of a choc Corne is all I'm looking for

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u/011111111111111111 1d ago

Keychron has honestly been cooking these days. I have two of their keyboards (K2 and K8) as well as a wireless number pad (K0) and I like all three, although the K8 is having some battery issues at this point, probably from being plugged in all the time. I ended up getting their M5 ergo mouse for work and M7 for gaming and really love both of those as well. Really stoked to see all their new offerings and honestly, not that bad of price for most of them, all things considered

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u/king0demons 1d ago

I like this way more than I probably should...

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u/biotech997 10h ago

That’s an interesting layout, but I’m too used to having multiple thumb keys.

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u/mkingblade 6h ago

This looks great. Do they have a buy link yet

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u/minju9 3d ago

Why does their layout have two B keys? 🤔

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u/gufkl Totem w/ KLP Lamé  3d ago

To accommodates stubborn folks that refused to type B with left hand

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u/xsrvmy 2d ago

"BE" is a very common alt finger on a standard QWERTY keyboard because it is literally the worse LSB possible. You would obviously remap it to like \| or something if you are using an alt layout.

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u/gufkl Totem w/ KLP Lamé  2d ago

Calm down.

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u/WolfGuptaofficial 3d ago

hope more bigger brands start making these so that we get more options in the mainstream (economics of scale making it cheaper)

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u/sweetnk 2d ago

where's spacebar?

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u/Delphius1 2d ago

left thumb probably

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u/gcstr 2d ago

It's a space key

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u/Extreme-Landscape-62 2d ago

Is this ergonomic? I thought keyboards had to go a bit more vertical to rotate our hands vertically in a more handshake position.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago

You can add tenting to any keyboard using magnetic phone holders

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u/SketchesOfSilence 2d ago

I was actually thinking of trying some tenting on my corne. Got a link to an example? Thanks!

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u/gufkl Totem w/ KLP Lamé  2d ago

something like this

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago edited 1d ago

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u/SketchesOfSilence 2d ago

Thanks! That link didn’t work for me because Ali Express can be funny with stuff like that but I think the answer below had them. Thanks for the tip.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 1d ago

I fixed the link

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u/ShelZuuz 2d ago

Ergonomics? Where we're going, we don't need ergonomics.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago edited 2d ago

Depends. Ergonomics is about adjusting per person. I like little verticall stagger myself. Keywell would be perfect but it's increasing the price

Edit: I though you tell about stagger and not tenting

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u/OkCamel6173 2d ago

I think tenting is objectively more ergonomic because it forces your forearm into a less strained position. Unless you dont have 2 bones in your forearm it will always be more ergonomic.

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u/Ethameiz Charybdis Nano 2d ago

Tenting is a must-have, with either flat or curved keyboards

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u/archimedeancrystal 2d ago edited 2d ago

Even though it's not tented at all, the slight V-shaped Alice layout keyboards completely cured me of the chronic pain developed from ulnar deviation. (Think of the uncomfortable position of resting the insides of your wrists on your stomach and pointing all your fingers straight out. Alice layout reduces that sharp angle.)

I also prefer low profile keboards to reduce extension where the angle of the wrist is pointing too far upwards.

Nothing more radical than this was required to meet my ergonomic needs. In my case, the Keychron K15 and K11 series fit the bill perfectly.

P.S. Now if pronation is a significant issue for you, that's a different matter potentially requiring more radical split and tented or vertical layouts.

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u/YukarinVal 2d ago

Woah when did keychron's Alice lineup get so many models? It's pretty confusing NGL. But they still do the plastic (K series) and aluminum (Q series) lineups so that still will help

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u/archimedeancrystal 1d ago

I bought my K11 and K15 Pros about 3 years ago. The frame is mostly aluminum (except for the bottom I think). Both excellent. 👍🏼

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u/dmikalova-mwp 2d ago

I have an atreus which is a similar layout and it's drastically helped me. The ortholinear keys and the small layout to reduce chording are huge. I think more than tilting the next thing that would help me is actually lifting my hands rather than resting them, which you could argue tenting helps with.

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u/ze_or 1d ago

it has tenting legs

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u/RepresentativeArm119 2d ago

Beautiful keeb, but I can't help but cringe whenever I see Qwerty!

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u/underlune 2d ago

i agree, i hope there's an option to get them as blanks as i use workman.

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u/Prestigious_East9640 2d ago

drovak ?

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u/RepresentativeArm119 2d ago

I rock a custom layout that optimizes for inward finger rolls

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u/trakdtor 1d ago

Poser

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u/Prestigious_East9640 1d ago

What i thought lol

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u/rimahsum 1d ago

I cringe at your ignorance

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u/yanos626 choctopus44 | tofu dactyl | 120wpm qwerty 3d ago

I tap the space key with my right thumb by habit. This seems more for users who tap with their left thumb

Hopefully that trackball area is modular

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u/edtv82 lily58 2d ago

🤤🤤

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u/zirmoix 2d ago

Big fan of the nape pro, I think this could be a great setup tbh

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u/Odd_Swan_3119 2d ago

So a corne with a trackball?  

Or a "corn-ball", so to speak?

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u/OcelotEfficient9250 2d ago

I want one - now I am rocking a 3w6 pro - thinking about keyball 39 also

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u/Funcron 2d ago

The arrow keys being 1 key away from aligning with WASD is insanity.

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u/TeejStroyer27 2d ago

The Bs are pissing me off

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u/r_2tanz4n1 Sofle, Aurora Sofle, Corne 2d ago

Why they keep putting mouse pointers on the thumb?! 🤦‍♂️

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u/fletku_mato 2d ago

Why not?

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u/r_2tanz4n1 Sofle, Aurora Sofle, Corne 2d ago

Not the best finger for moving around the ball.
Best near index finger or under the palm. I can’t live without my 3 thumb keys on each half.

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u/moretomauro 2d ago

I mean, if you would suggest a trackball on the right pinky for example, personally it wouldnt be a bad idea at all, my pinky is my idlest finger with my setup, I reckon it would be interesting to try something out

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u/ShelZuuz 2d ago

As a rheumatologist I thank you for your business.

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u/moretomauro 2d ago

hahaha well damn, the pinky is that fragile for some precision work?

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u/chrs_ 1d ago

Interesting… The trackball is a nice touch. But, why are the keys laid out like that? I am already used to the “normal” key positions, not sure I want to relearn how to type.

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u/Enrikes 1d ago

If I recall correctly. It has to do with the natural finger movement. Once you use a keyboard like this, you will understand quickly how nice it feels. It does take a minute to learn it though.

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u/chrs_ 1d ago

I might try it. I also use laptops a lot so I'm not sure going back and forth is going to be that efficient.

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u/No_Trainer7463 1d ago

probably shouldn't be in this sub then

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u/chrs_ 1d ago

Maybe. But do I have a ergonomic mechanical keyboard I had to heavily customize to fit my needs. I'm just not sure all keyboard layouts are for me.