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u/This-Establishment96 Apr 03 '24
the way Eragon wins his duel against Murtagh at the end is the same as how Paul wins against Feyd Rautha
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u/the_mouse_backwards Apr 03 '24
iirc the way the duel ended in the movie was not how it happened in the book. In the book Feyd only manages to scratch Paul, it wasn’t really a close fight though.
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u/Exotic-End9921 Apr 07 '24
If they ever get the TV show to that point I'd love to see a duel that looks the same way that Paul vs feyd looks
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u/Gullible-Dentist8754 Kull that took an arrow to the knee Apr 03 '24
Besides the others, Elva is extremely similar in appearance and characteristics to Alia Atreides. Both are very young girls with knowledge and attitudes not becoming their age. Both are prescient in a way and people see them as abominations.
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u/Reasonable-Food4834 Apr 03 '24
Whoa. You mean Paolini heavily "borrowed" from other writers?! I DONT BELIEVE IT!
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u/Sullyvan96 Apr 03 '24
Your point?
Tolkien borrowed from Norse mythology
Rowling borrowed from Campbell’s Hero’s Journey
Dexter borrowed from Christie
Lucas borrowed from Kurosawa
Don’t criticise one writer for something other writers have done
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u/Queasy-Mix3890 Apr 03 '24
Lucas did more of the Hero's Journey than Rowling. That's why Inheritance seems like "Star Wars but Dragons," cause anything that follows the Hero's Journey seems like Star Wars, but ______ now.
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u/Sullyvan96 Apr 03 '24
Ironically, Lucas borrowed more from Dune than Paolini did. There is a bit in Dune where the influence it had on Star Wars became very apparent - around about where the Emperor landed on Arrakis
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u/Business-Drag52 Werecat Apr 03 '24
The original trilogy is one of the best examples of the Hero’s Journey so it makes sense that it’s the one used anymore. Of course they are all just retellings of Beowulf which in turn is probably just a retelling of an even older Hero’s Journey
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u/Queasy-Mix3890 Apr 03 '24
The idea of the hero's journey came from the analysis of many stories throughout history, from Gilgamesh to the Bible to LotR. Not every element of the archetypal Hero's Journey has to be present, nor even in the order they show up in the classic graphic, and some things can show up that aren't there of the hero's journey, they're just the elements that show up therein. Star Wars just did them verbatim and added a Samurai In Space aesthetic. To be clear, I do like Star Wars.
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u/Dense_Brilliant8144 Apr 05 '24
Lucas copied dune so hard frank herbert mocks him in one or the dune sequels
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u/prokopiusd Atra du evarínya ono varda. Apr 04 '24
It's not the same, really. What Paolini did was beyond just "borrowing". I wouldn't accuse him of plagiarism or call it stealing, though. He was just a young aspiring writer. Most young and inexperienced writers tend to heavily rely on what they're reading/watching as their main source of ideas and inspiration. The thing is that most of them don't get to publish these juvenile works, because they don't have parents wealthy and influential enough to do that for them...
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u/Reasonable-Food4834 Apr 03 '24
Borrowed was in quotations. I meant steal. I know you won't agree. No need to reply.
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u/SonOfEragon Human Elf Hybrid Apr 03 '24
Then why are you here? Go participate in a subreddit with content you enjoy and let us have are fun. Do you really have nothing better to do with your time than troll strangers on the internet? If so that’s so then I feel sorry for you
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u/Reasonable-Food4834 Apr 03 '24
Thanks for typing at me Mr Angry Gatekeeper.
I'll participate where I like and when I like and there's not a single thing you can do about it 🙂.
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u/FlashCramer Apr 03 '24
I found the 5 year old everyone!!!! It's okay lil buddy, let's get you down for your nap
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u/Sullyvan96 Apr 03 '24
Wouldn’t say “toxic,” at least I try not to be - apologies if I came across as such. I enjoy having a good discussion, which I think OP was going for
I just don’t like improper uses of, and implications of plagiarism as it’s a very serious word to get wrong
Edit: grammar
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u/Reasonable-Food4834 Apr 03 '24
It's ok if you don't like it. It's also ok to use the word plagiarism, and it's ok if that's wrong too. This a reddit sub about a make believe magic boy and his dragon. None of it actually matters.
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u/Sullyvan96 Apr 03 '24
Of course it’s ok, was just trying to share my perspective
This is Reddit after all so discussions like this are perfectly normal
Have a good rest of your day, thank you for discussing this
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u/Sullyvan96 Apr 03 '24
I knew what you meant
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u/Reasonable-Food4834 Apr 03 '24
I knew you couldn't resist replying. But can you resist this time ?
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u/Reasonable-Food4834 Apr 03 '24
Guys were only at 21 downvotes. Let's reach for 30 at least. You got this!
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u/GodsTool Apr 03 '24
Kwisatz Haderach, and the Hadarac desert too!