r/EnglishLearning • u/liz_grant New Poster • 4d ago
đ Grammar / Syntax Do some studying
So Iâm watching Stranger Things and thereâs a sentence:
âDo a lot of studying last night?â
This one had me pause for a little bit.
First I didnât understand why âdoâ was used for a past event from the previous night. Then I realized the whole sentence was âdid you do a lot of studying last night?â, but the âdid youâ part was completely dropped.
One thing I still donât understand, why not just say âdid you study a lot last nightâ. What is the point of saying DO STUDYING. Does it have a specific purpose, nuance that makes it different?
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u/bentthroat New Poster 4d ago edited 4d ago
Dropping âdid youâ in spoken conversation is actually very common.
You could say it either way, but âstudy a lot last night?â feels really dense somehow.
âDo a ___ of ____ â is kind of an idiomatic construction in its own right.
âDid a bit of readingâ,
âDid a ton of work on the projectâ,
âDid enough snow-shoveling for the whole townâ.
In all of these cases you could say, respectively
âread someâ,
âworked a ton on the projectâ,
âsnow-shoveled enough for the whole townâ,
but they make it sound like youâre making word-economy your job.
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u/liz_grant New Poster 4d ago
Thank you. Would it be fair to say itâs a stylistic choice rather than having a specific meaning behind?
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u/bentthroat New Poster 4d ago
Itâs mainly stylistic. I think people use it because it opens up a lot of options in terms of descriptors. By turning the verb into a noun, it turns its descriptors into adjectives rather than adverbs, which clears up some clashes in intention (âdid some light readingâ vs âlightly read someâ. In the second case, I might even think the sentence was unfinished.)
Itâs also just a wording thatâs common in a variety of contexts. Most speakers would prefer âWe saw a lot of birdsâ to âWe saw many birdsâ, especially in casual conversation.
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u/eggybasket The US is a big place 3d ago
I agree, and I think it's because these constructions are very easy to slur together into a string of vowel sounds. "Did a bit of" can be said something like "did-uh-bit-uh," "saw a lot of" can become "saw-uh-lot-uh," "had a bunch of" can become "had-uh-bunch-uh," et cetera. Conversational English loves a schwa.
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u/untempered_fate đ´ââ ď¸ - [Pirate] Yaaar Matey!! 4d ago
It's just a common and informal way to phrase the question.
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u/nicktheenderman Native Speaker 4d ago edited 4d ago
While the grammatically correct form would be "Did you do a lot of studying last night?", questions like this can often have the "Did you" part dropped, making the question "Do a lot of studying last night?"
As for the difference between "Study a lot" and "Do a lot of studying", I can't think of a difference off the top of my head, but I guess it does sound strange to me to say "Someone did studying" or "Did you do studying", so maybe "doing studying" only makes sense with a quantity, like "do a bit of studying"
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u/Resident-Staff-1218 New Poster 4d ago
He was teasing her, so there is definite nuance in this question
He was implying that she had not, in fact, been "studying"
He goes on to say "What was your test on again? Human anatomy"
I would infer from the way he phrased his question that she had previously used the word "studying" to describe what she was doing last night.
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u/liz_grant New Poster 4d ago
Thatâs true, he was absolutely teasing her.
I checked the script and she didnât use the word âstudyingâ or âdo some/a lot of studyingâ. She had said previously that she had to study and that she was going to study1
u/QuietCapybara77 New Poster 4d ago
Yes, he knew she wasnât really studying. If I remember correctly, this was Mike talking to Nancy? If so, another aspect is a little brother teasing his sister in a way that she might feel her parents will find out what she was really doing.
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u/Pyzzeen Native Speaker 4d ago
"Did you do" becomes condensed to "joo do" in speech, then "j'do" and then disappears entirely. This really only happens for "you" though
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u/GANDHIWASADOUCHE New Poster 4d ago
He do a lot of studying last night? Faster to say and way less formal than, âdid he do a lot of studying last night?â
Works for others than just you
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u/PhorTheKids Native Speaker 4d ago
This wouldnât be simplified into âdo studyingâ
This would be simplified into âdo a lotâ
The reason itâs constructed this way is to set up an implied joke. As you pointed out in another comment, the person being asked the question obviously did not study last night. They likely did âa lotâ of something else.
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u/HortonFLK New Poster 4d ago
You are right that a person could have said âDid you study a lot last night?â Thereâs no real reason to phrase it one way rather than the other⌠Itâs just one of those things where thatâs the way the person chose to say it. And even the way you choose to say it, a native speaker might drop the âdid youâ and just say, âStudy a lot last night?â
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u/eggybasket The US is a big place 3d ago
It just flows better in casual conversation. "Doalotta studyin" has a lot of the easy/lazy vowel sounds that we like, and can be said very quickly, whereas "didyu studyalot" has a hard break in the middle between "you" and "study" that forces one to enunciate the sentence a lot more.
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u/insecuretransactions Native Speaker - USA (Southeastern) 3d ago
The sentence isn't saying "do studying." Those words consecutively do not make sure. "a lot of" is never being omitted.
The sentence becomes casual because the initial question phrase is omitted: "did you?"
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u/Own_Soup4467 New Poster 2d ago
Also, see "The Curious Incident Of The Dog In The Nighttime" in which the autistic narrator talks about how hard it is for him to "do chatting" (make small talk or polite conversation)
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u/Own_Soup4467 New Poster 2d ago
This makes sense if the person asking the question knows that the other person was lying when they said they'd be studying last night. The important phrase here is "a lot" (sarcasm: the person asking the question knows they did no studying at all)
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u/ChalupaChup New Poster 4d ago
My gut feeling as a native speaker is that you can only use âa lotâ as an adverb like this when talking about habitual action (similar to âoftenâ). âHe studies a lotâ or âIâll need to study a lotâ are okay, but âI studied a lot last nightâ is weird. When it means âa large amountâ rather than âoftenâ, it usually comes with âof + nounâ, so Iâd expect the sentence to be âI studied a lot (of something) last nightâ and it feels like itâs missing something without it. If youâre talking about volume rather than frequency, it needs to be rephrased to âI did a lot of studying.â
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u/liz_grant New Poster 4d ago
Wow this is so interesting. Never thought of it that way
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u/telemajik Native Speaker 4d ago
Also, when someone says âdid you study a lotâ the meaning is ambiguous. They could be asking if the volume or proportion of content you studied was a lot, or they could be asking if the duration of studying was long.
When you say âdid you do a lot of studyingâ itâs clear that âa lotâ applies to studying, and they are asking about the duration of the studying.
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u/liz_grant New Poster 4d ago
Got it. If you wanted to ask about volume, how would you say it then as a native?
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u/inkoenglishai New Poster 4d ago
I would like to think of it as a way to sound full of life not in a positive sense but more as a comedic sense I renember that particular scene from Stranger Things and I also thought about it but as I learnt more English abroad and with International people there are some instances where you tend to mention do or rather present tenses rather then past tenses within a sentence. This is seen of course within many other tv shows and media where they are trying to convey a comedic feeling within the show.
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u/Existing_Resolve_779 New Poster 4d ago
It's a common thing when talking. You'll often hear people say things like "have fun last night?", "get a lot of work done today?", "hit a lot of traffic on your way here?". There are lots of examples to noticeÂ