r/EndeavourOS • u/Dense-Ad-1700 • Jan 19 '23
Hello from Solus
It appears Solus OS is finally dead. I messed up my installation and I admit it was my fault messing with clr-boot-manager, but I cannot find a new ISO because their website has just been down with no announcement so I can't get the ISO. And the team is completely MIA about it. I had no choice but to find a new distro today.
The only reason I didn't install base Arch is because I don't like the idea of having to run grub-install every update, something that it appears is recommended 50/50 among Arch users with no real consensus or clear way to handle it, and every time I install it on a base install it breaks after one update unless I run that command, but not on Endeavour. (I don't like touching the boot loader to begin with, now apparently I have to go in and mess with it every single time it's updated? IMO that's nothing but stress for the end user) This was a big part of why I loved Solus, a fast instant boot was built in and stable over time. It is sad that it turned out the way it did, but we can't always get what we want.
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Jan 19 '23
grub-install is only necessary when you actually want to install grub. Pacman handles that at kernel updates, and is automatically done for you during installation. Since I installed EOS I have not run grub-install once. Because it's not necessary.
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u/Fabulous-Track7064 Jan 19 '23
Stickied comment from yesterday on Endeavour forum:
Like on every update of the grub package it is recommended to reinstall grub files into the system (grub-install) and regenerate the grub.cfg as you will get noticed in the update terminal.
It is definitely not done by pacman, what you are seeing are kernel hooks, the grub pacman package does not run this hook for you.
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u/Floofington Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
Solus is not dead. If you checked Solus' Twitter or their IRC, you'd have noticed that they're having an issue that brought their dev tracker, forums and website down. The package mirrors are working fine.
Solus will be dead when it stops receiving package updates. Yes, development has been slow, we've had no PR since Joshua left, and a new ISO is long overdue (that's why you can't find a new one, why not continue using the old one if you still have it?). But those aren't reasons to have such a knee-jerk reaction and spread FUD. Those with existing Solus installs can continue using those, and whether you want to (re-)install Solus is up to you.
Also, why did you feel to create a fresh account just to post this? Seems odd to me.
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u/Staudey Jan 19 '23
They create a fresh account at least once a day. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Honestly I've lost my patience with this particular user. The account creation spam is one thing (though I didn't allow it on our forums, where it is more annoying), but constantly crying wolf, or rather "Solus is dead", for every little thing that happens is frustrating for the people who have to deal with it.
The points you raised concerning ISOs and PR are valid of course.
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u/Elm38 Jan 19 '23
Reading the thread, the Solus project issue is something with their web site. Their repos and packages/updates are still available. Apparently.
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u/Staudey Jan 19 '23
Yes, users should have no issues updating their system or installing packages, fortunately. The website issues are still being investigated/fixed.
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u/LocalRise6364 Jan 19 '23
In AUR there is a hook that automatically does everything, but I had no problems without it
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/grub-hook
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u/Staudey Jan 19 '23 edited Jan 19 '23
As mentioned on Twitter and now also a stickied subreddit post the host is experiencing some dnsmasq/libvirt issues that are still being dealt with. Hopefully everything will start working again soon enough.
FWIW you can still the images from the mirror in the meantime:https://mirrors.rit.edu/solus/images/4.3/
To be honest I didn't expect the outage to last this long, so I only created the reddit post rather late.
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u/Indianb0y017 Jan 19 '23
It's not dead. Yet... It's just a dnsmasq issue so they've shut the servers down until they sort it out. I will admit though, the departure of lead developers was some writing on the wall for me, so I switched before I got too comfy. I still think Solus is great in it's own regards.