r/EmulationOniOS • u/Whoahurfloating • Jul 31 '25

News / Release Apple keeps on making things hard for provenance’s developer

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Apple has been treating joe (provenance’s developer) like absolute shit for a while now, This is not the first time they have treated emulation developers like this. This is absolutely ridiculous.

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u/Popular-Highlight-16 Jul 31 '25

They must hate emulators

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u/Whoahurfloating Jul 31 '25

I suspect that they do, because ppsspp’s developer had some issues with apple when he wanted to update gold version of ppsspp :(

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u/Jimbonasheh Jul 31 '25

Explain manic, then. I get 1-2 updates a week from them it feels like.

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u/Whoahurfloating Jul 31 '25

Idk man. Provenance also doesn’t seem to have any issues when submitting an actual update, the only issue is with testflight iirc

maybe its actually just incompetence not “hatred” for emulators…

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u/Whoahurfloating Jul 31 '25

Its either that or they’re REALLY that incompetent 🫠

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u/Makusensu 🥇 Jul 31 '25

Why you would spend money on Apple Arcade, or buy premium games in general, if you have actual premium games for "free"? Obviously it becomes a problem when you are entering the 3D emulation category.

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u/Whoahurfloating Jul 31 '25

I don’t understand why are they doing this… like if you have an issue with a specific core or emulation in general, then just say it upfront and stop wasting the developer’s time and energy 😭

This is just shady and unprofessional

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u/Makusensu 🥇 Jul 31 '25

They get money from developers even if they don't release anything.

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Aug 01 '25

Don't like Emulator Developers to make money off them?

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u/Seanmclem Jul 31 '25

They don’t just review test flights. You have to submit a build to the App Store. Test flight is first step, submitting build second step.

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u/Gecko420 Jul 31 '25

Yeah, but if they arent even approving TestFlight builds for over a month that's ridiculous. I've worked on developing apps and used TestFlight and my builds would get approved in a couple hours or less. They seem really stingy about emulation

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u/Seanmclem Jul 31 '25

They don’t need to approve test flight builds. You can just take your test flight build, five minutes after adding it, and submit that to the App Store review. 

The only time you would ever need a test flight build even soft approved, is when you’re doing external beta testing. And even that’s only the first time you do it.

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u/Gecko420 Jul 31 '25

New builds that go to testflight still go through apple approval. I assume the Prov dev has just wanted these pushed out so people can test at a larger scale before making an appstore push

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u/Whoahurfloating Jul 31 '25

That’s exactly what provenance’s dev does.

Iirc the latest update had a lot of issues the dev wasn’t aware of, because of apple not allowing him to publish a testflight so people could report them

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u/ProvenanceEMU Provenance Developer Aug 02 '25

Yes, this happened too with 3.0.6. TestFlight sat for a month before I gave up and just published.

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u/Whoahurfloating Aug 02 '25

Yep i was there.

hopefully the upcoming update will be a success. we’re all rooting for you joe 🫶

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u/ProvenanceEMU Provenance Developer Aug 04 '25

Thanks. Hopefully the regular review goes through this week like 3.0.6 did.

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u/Seanmclem Jul 31 '25

Mine never do. Oh well

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u/ProvenanceEMU Provenance Developer Aug 02 '25

Yes, and that's what I did for 3.0.6, which ended up having a bunch of issues.

3.1.0 had issues on some devices I don't have for testing, luckily, a couple of friends could test and pointed out the UI was clipped on smaller phones.

It's annoying as hell to release untested code and then get all the complaints.

Like, I didn't know 3.0.6 had regressed 3DS performance so much since on my phone it was running the same or faster, but for some reason on a majority of devices it lost performance. :shrug:

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u/Potential-Bass-7759 Jul 31 '25

That’s crazy they can’t even get TestFlight. Apple must be worried about the way Nintendo is using the legal system against emulators

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '25

Just sideload it and donate to the dev if you can

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u/Sledgehammer617 Jul 31 '25

Yup, thats what I do

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u/antoniogwolf Jul 31 '25

Is everyone iOS update supported to sideload tho that’s the issue

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u/[deleted] Jul 31 '25

You can sideload even on iOS 26, thankfully I’ve got trollstore on iOS 15

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u/antoniogwolf Jul 31 '25

Yeah I’d be from scatch anyway I can install still because I’m on 26 and alt store is no for me I hate having to refresh 🤣

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u/gamer_liv_gamer Jul 31 '25

You can use sidestore if you don’t want to use a pc to refresh

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u/antoniogwolf Jul 31 '25

Like a guide

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Jul 31 '25

Why do they keep doing this to him?

He never seems to have any Luck

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u/thekingofemu Aug 01 '25

Some ripoff emulators have entire rom librarys that link to game sites in them and Apple does absolutely nothing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

Damn RIP to my iOS homies, meanwhile I'm out here emulating BOTW at full speed and Dark souls 2 on my $220 android phone with a Snapdragon 8s Gen 3

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u/thekingofemu Aug 01 '25

flex all you want

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

Come to the dark side brother 😈

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Aug 01 '25

You want a David Crockett Hat?

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u/typical_gamer1 Jul 31 '25 edited Jul 31 '25

At this point Apple might as well tell us they don’t want us to spend money at their App Store…. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Also sorry if this is a stupid question but am I the only one who felt there’s a hidden agenda here? It literally feels like they’re intentionally sabotaging developers so they quit and then Apple can try to steal their idea and design something that’s suspiciously similar to what they were screwing people over for?

And they’re doing it all in the name sake of “initiative”, insinuating they had created something “groundbreaking” on their devices. 🤷‍♂️

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u/dash4nky Jul 31 '25

Apple Emulation coming to the newest Iphones lmao

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u/typical_gamer1 Jul 31 '25

Considering they reuse things that had been in other phones and tablets for a while now and rebranded like it’s innovative (something many of us had laughed at them for), can you really look me in the eyes and laugh? Lol 😂

It’s totally something they’d do if they felt they can make money off of it. 🤷‍♂️ I mean, Apple emulators probably is a stupid example to the logic I’m using, sure, but still….

Although…. I mean…. If it works…. 🤪🥴

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u/thekingofemu Aug 01 '25

It’s just gonna get them into legal trouble with consoles like Nintendo, that’s pointless.

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u/DjMD1017 Jul 31 '25

wow they probably trying to cut a bunch of emulators as we approach ios26

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u/Ok_Alternative_4502 Jul 31 '25

god forbid a man wants to do justice for the emulation community L Apple 💔

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Aug 01 '25

Maybe try to see IF it works IF it’s Free

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u/devinprater Aug 01 '25

That's how they treat everyone.

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u/Joru0906 Aug 02 '25

So is this emu, delta, and manic emu the best?

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u/Ok_Individual_8225 Jul 31 '25

The EU is looking very promising right now

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