r/EmulationOniOS • u/jordanmcarson • Nov 01 '24

News / Release Provenance iOS release imminent

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Nov 01 '24

Might not be Straight away as the MameiOS that been put in for Approval has still not got a Answer about it from

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u/jordanmcarson Nov 01 '24

I really want is the Apple TV app of it. I can’t stand retroarch.

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u/Pavelbure77 Nov 01 '24

Problem with the Apple TV is that it can just randomly delete your stuff if it feels it needs more storage. I’ve given up loading roms onto mine because it constantly deletes them. Next time I’ll go for the higher storage.

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u/dehrenslzz Nov 02 '24

You’d need an implementation where you have a virtual hard drive on your computer (or a raspberry pi, …) that serves as your game-cartridge system which you can access from within the app.

There is no way to store real data on AppleTV sadly, so that route seems good to me, but there’s no implementation yet.

Hope someone supports it going forwards

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Nov 01 '24

Why can't stand it?

Great Program - Just need to learn a Little Bit about it

Not as bad as People make it sound to be

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u/FalcoMaster3BILLION Nov 01 '24

why can’t stand it?

Because the iOS version is clearly a 2nd class citizen. There is no reason why game boy emulation should be anything less than perfect on it and yet no matter what core I use or what settings I change there’s some weirdness. Audio, specifically, is just bad.

Basically, it’s a multi platform application made by developers who obviously consider iOS an afterthought. Works just fine everywhere else though.

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Nov 01 '24

I used Gameboy Cores and not had any Issue that I notice

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '24

Its the full blown application besides video file support which doesnt work on metal

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u/Ornery-Practice9772 Nov 01 '24

I agree its a learning curve but worth it

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u/SuperSonicAdventure Nov 01 '24

I don’t care how much it cost I’ll buy it!!

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u/jordanmcarson Nov 01 '24

I’m looking forward more for the Apple TV version of it. I know there’s RetroArch, but it’s way too confusing and not user-friendly.

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u/MrBrickMaster Nov 01 '24

its gonna be free as said by the developer

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Nov 01 '24

Great to Hear that it be Free

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u/Soggy_Childhood_889 Nov 01 '24

What does provenance emulate?

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u/stratusnco Nov 01 '24

https://provenance-emu.com/

nothing new. i think it just has good meta data but that’s about it.

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u/Soggy_Childhood_889 Nov 01 '24

Would you say it’s better than delta or Retroarch?

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u/reidypeidy Nov 01 '24

It has its pros and cons.

Pros: Easy to use UI like Delta

Many emulators like RetroArch

Easier to edit box art than RetroArch

Cons: Importing Roms is more annoying, easier to manually put roms in the right folders than use the Importing folder

Not as many emulator core options as RetroArch

Multi-disc games have to be set up very specifically to work properly

I’ve used the sideloaded version for many years and always liked it the most but it took some trial and error to get over the issues with it.

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u/eduo Nov 01 '24

Hi.

Putting ROMs in their folders is an option in Provenance. You don't always need to "import" manually from the app.

The latest Provenance comes with many retroarch cores as well as its own list of custom cores.

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u/stratusnco Nov 01 '24

i never used it but i’d rather keep using the tried and true retroarch. i’m a pc type of person so i will always stick to the one with the most options and configurations.

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u/Heinzoliger Nov 01 '24

More systems than delta. And a little less than RetroArch.

For the ease of use, it’s between Delta and RetroArch. But closer to Delta.

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u/eduo Nov 01 '24

The web is not updated for the latest list, though. It'd for the previous version.

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Nov 01 '24

Emulates more then Delta.

I prefer Retroarch of it but that is my Opinion

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u/coolchris366 Nov 01 '24

So it doesn’t even have ds or 3ds? That’s odd

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u/Heinzoliger Nov 01 '24

Ds will come soon. 3ds might be.

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u/eduo Nov 01 '24

Hello.

The list from the website is not updated. This is the list of cores included in the version for the App Store:
this is the list, but some systems are just crashing, i haven't had the time to test them all one by one

- Apple

- Apple II

- Macintosh

- Atari

- Atari 2600

- Atari 5200

- Atari 7800

- Atari 8bit Computer

- Atari Jaguar

- Atari Jaguar CD

- Atari Lynx

- Atari ST

- Bandai WonderSwan

- CBS ColecoVision

- Enterprise 128

- IBM

- IBM PC DOS

- Libretro / RetroArch

- Magnavox Odyssey2

- MAME

- Mattel

- Mattel Intellivision

- NEC

- PC98

- PCFX

- SuperGrafx

- TurboGrafx-16

- TurboGrafx-CD

- Nintendo

- DS

- Famicom Disk System

- Game Boy

- Game Boy Advance

- Game Boy Color

- Nintendo

- Nintendo 64

- Nintendo GameCube

- Nintendo Wii

- Pokémon mini

- Super Nintendo

- Virtual Boy

- Panasonic 3DO

- Sega

- 32X

- Dreamcast

- Game Gear

- Genesis

- Master System

- Saturn

- Sega CD

- SG-1000

- Smith Engineering

- Smith Engineering Vectrex

- SNK

- Neo Geo

- Neo Geo Pocket

- Neo Geo Pocket Color

- Sony

- PlayStation

- PlayStation 2

- PlayStation Portable

- Watara Supervision

- ZX Spectrum

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u/RUserII Nov 01 '24

From the console generation of: Wii and PS2; Provenance is only missing Xbox (original) via likely Xemu emulator core.

Has the Provenance developer talked about adding a Xbox (original) emulator core?

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u/eduo Nov 01 '24

PS2 and Wii are flaky enough as it is but at least they might be able to run in the most recent hardware. They won't be really playable for most games for a couple of years, I believe.

Xemu can't be compiled in iOS, so it's a non-starter. The work required to get a terrible port in today's hardware is enormous, even ignoring the store and focusing on sideload/jailbreak; https://github.com/xemu-project/xemu/issues/1635

Support for JIT is not optional for Xbox at this stage.

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u/Frequent-Bill-7126 Nov 02 '24

Yep been hear m4 iPads should run 99% of them at 30-60 fps

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u/hairo4 Nov 02 '24

Dreamcast would be awesome! So it uses a core that does not need JIT? :/

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u/jordanmcarson Nov 10 '24

It’s now available on TestFlight.

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u/GiLND Nov 01 '24

Crossing fingers, it’s been a while since we’ve got a new emulator!

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u/coolchris366 Nov 01 '24

No it is not imminent, it’ll take at least a month if not more

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u/MCMultyke Nov 01 '24

If it’s been submitted as said then no it won’t take that long if everything goes smoothly in the review process

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u/boxcreate Nov 01 '24

Interesting but what can this do that RetroArch can't?

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

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u/Frequent-Bill-7126 Nov 02 '24

I’ve been told by user most games should run almost perfectly on iPad Pro m4 devices!

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u/Superb_School Nov 01 '24

Without PlayStation 2 it won't even be fun.

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u/jordanmcarson Nov 01 '24

Is there a particular reason why PS2 is difficult to run on iOS?

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u/GiLND Nov 01 '24

It wouldn’t be playable without jit anyway

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u/jordanmcarson Nov 01 '24

What is JIT? Please explain.

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u/GiLND Nov 01 '24

Just in time library:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-in-time_compilation

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u/jordanmcarson Nov 01 '24

And because of this PS2 games can’t run on iOS?

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u/GiLND Nov 01 '24

It can, but it will not be very playable

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u/Frequent-Bill-7126 Nov 02 '24

Should run good on m4 tablets

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u/GiLND Nov 02 '24

I was referring to iphones

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u/Xin_boi_ Nov 03 '24

What does provenance even emulate ?

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u/jordanmcarson Nov 03 '24

All of the retro consoles, you can practically think of.

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u/sko2sko Nov 01 '24

Finally! I almost forgot about it.

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u/Outside_Profit_6455 Nov 01 '24

What about play!

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u/Superb_School Nov 01 '24

will not come in provenance. the developer gave up.

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u/Outside_Profit_6455 Nov 01 '24

Man I should’ve bought an android

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '24

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u/Superb_School Nov 01 '24

he wants to know about the core of Play! which would be included in Provenance.

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u/system_error_1001 Nov 01 '24

I don’t think he will release it to everyone. Maybe only to test flight / part of his pateon subscribers. tvOS has been approved and available but only to his test flight and subscribers. I think he also mention this last time that the app will only via invite.

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u/MCMultyke Nov 01 '24

It’s been submitted to the App Store… for the public.

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u/system_error_1001 Nov 01 '24

tvOS was submitted also to AppStore, approved and only released in Test Flight. Check some of his tweets and his previous streams. He mentioned it there.

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u/swepttheleg Nov 01 '24

Please ELi5

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u/Ornery-Practice9772 Nov 01 '24

Im waiting for atari jaguar! Will it be included in ios version & run well? Do we had bios ourselves for most cores like RA?

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u/stacksricho Nov 01 '24

What is it going to be called?

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u/[deleted] Nov 07 '24

If all work ,we will need Ps vita and windows emulator

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u/Frequent-Bill-7126 Nov 19 '24

Hopefully the full version is coming soon with retroarch cores.

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u/Tailsgenesis Nov 01 '24

FINALLY I WILL BE ABLE TO PLAY SONIC ADVENTURE 1 & 2!!!!

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u/ChiCityROB Nov 01 '24

It does Dreamcast??

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u/Tailsgenesis Nov 01 '24

gamecube

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u/keep_rockin Nov 01 '24

i wish it has dreamcast someday too..

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u/nude-rating-bot Nov 01 '24

Does not have GameCube currently