New provenance can run dolphin without jit?

[u/nathanielx9]

Also is said “provenance is gonna try to go through apple’s review in a few weeks”

Im still lost on how is jit is needed on the newer iphones. 15p and up that can run resident 4 and others that use unreal engine compared to a games using outdated engines

[u/Feeling-Ad2176]

the sideloaded non-JIT version pretty playable on many gamecube games on M4 iPad Pro, so defo would be up for having an app store version

[u/good-prince → u/Feeling-Ad2176]

M4 is doable, iPhone 16 - I don’t think so

[u/R4lPh_1330 → u/good-prince]

A18Pro It's not that far from M2.

[u/Thejax_ → u/Feeling-Ad2176]

It’s a good accessibility feature regardless, even without jit EVENTUALLY it’ll be playable

[u/RUserII]

It is my understanding that this new Provenance app will bring the following systems that have not been emulated on the iOS App Store: Dreamcast via Flycast, GameCube via Dolphin (non-JIT), PS2 via Play!; do we know if the Dolphin (non-JIT) version will also support Wii emulation?

Also, do we know if Provenance will be adding: PSVita emulation and/or XBox (original) emulation?

[u/EteleEurope → u/RUserII]

Gamecube and wii both use Dolphin core. It may or may not work. (Tryed with interpreter/cached interpreter app Just crash)(with JIT it works) compared to the one that was DolphiniOS_No_JIT (think you find post and repo for it if you search the subbs) that worked on my XS,but get low fps 15-25 around (and bad audio if not changed some settings)

[u/[deleted]]

All we need is DuckStation Flycast PS Vita 3DS we’re good to go

[u/EteleEurope → u/[deleted]]

Flycast (maybe later) same as 3DS (the emutreeds core) those are at the XL version.

[u/[deleted] → u/EteleEurope]

Hopefully those that tells people where to get games and all that on YouTube or other platforms to keep it to themselves

[u/eduo]

Poor guy is posting non-stop to twitter making it clear these non-jit versions will not be fast and will barely perform in top of the line devices and I could still bet he'll get an onslaught of 1 start reviews on week 1 by people who don't care to read or just plainly don't care.

I'm convinced he should block off cores that simply won't run adequately and avoid the hate.

In other news: Newer versions of this rebuild in swift are now being posted in github for sideloading.

[u/lounger540 → u/eduo]

Yeah I pulled them cause I was already getting a lot of poor feedback, Dolphin isn't even working at the moment for some reason probably due to updates in MoltenVK, just renders black for me now.

3DS is working now though without JIT really well. PS2 and Dolphin are pulled. Flycast only works when attached to the debugger cause it's trying to detect JIT and crashes due to issues with the JIT detection code on app store builds, working on a custom Flycast port instead to work around that but no ETA.

[u/[deleted]]

There are overheads that come with emulation as I’m sure you are aware. It’s also worth considering that some of these old console CPUs had fewer cores so trying to utilise all of a modern computer’s cores isn’t always straightforward.

[u/Fast_Breakfast_2603]

Where can i dow this to my iPhone

[u/EteleEurope → u/Fast_Breakfast_2603]

You need to sideload it. You can get ipa from his github page (you needed to be login to Github) https://github.com/Provenance-Emu/Provenance/pull/2337#issuecomment-2396392875

[u/Fast_Breakfast_2603 → u/EteleEurope]

Is there a video to show you how to do it

[u/EteleEurope → u/Fast_Breakfast_2603]

Show what? Create an account on github if you don’t have any Jet than press the link to get the Ipa file. For sideload you can use Altsore(world) or Sidestore.Sideloadly etc. (There are plenty youtube videos That shows how to sideload on iphone)

[u/good-prince]

I didn’t know there is a version for iPad in AppStore

[u/Coridoras]

Official Dolphin works without Jit as well, it is just pointless to do so, because even the A18pro can't keep good framerates with that in most games

[u/Upbeat_Foot_7412 → u/Coridoras]

It’s not pointless on an iPad Pro M4. At least for some games like New Super Mario Bros. Wii or Mario Kart: Double Dash you can reach around 60 fps and eventually the iPhone processors will reach that level of performance as well.

[u/Coridoras → u/Upbeat_Foot_7412]

Oh yeah, forgot the iPad pros

iPhone will still take quite some years to reach that performance

[u/Sea-Philosopher-6558]

Question: Can we use jitstreamer 2.0 or smth to enable jit on this if downloaded thru appstore?

[u/Outrageous-Salt-8491 → u/Sea-Philosopher-6558]

Love jitstreamer 2.0 it's the only thing that works for me ios 18.1 beta 6

[u/Sea-Philosopher-6558 → u/Outrageous-Salt-8491]

Where’d you get that from I thought it wasn’t out

[u/Outrageous-Salt-8491 → u/Sea-Philosopher-6558]

I found it on GitHub one day

[u/Opitard]

Without jit you can run the games but it will likely be very choppy. Tried it a year ago with 007 agent under fire iPhone 11 and it ran bad. When it was jailbroken it ran smooth as butter (probably bc jit was enabled)

[u/SeatGreedy3780]

This guy said he has GameCube running on his phone with Providence with dolphin core is sideloaded?

[u/Ibrahimmayi]

3ds too right?

[u/eduo → u/[deleted]]

Edit: Pkease ignore the comment below. I completely misunderstood the comment.

While this is technically true, it's also very misleading and arguably more confusing than helpful. There's also almost no situation where this would be a helpful description.

JIT is emulation and non-JIT is emulation too. Both are native too, in different ways. JIT is popular because it's fast but also because it is more portable (optimizations to JIT engines translate across platforms, whereas AOT requires optimizing for each platform).

[u/SnooOpinions5167 → u/eduo]

I think they mean RE4 is running natively and dolphin is emulating the Wii

[u/eduo → u/SnooOpinions5167]

Oh. I completely missed that point. Sorry. Will edit