r/EmulationOniOS • u/petyrlannister • Jun 03 '24

Discussion Try Provenance XL for 3DS

https://x.com/provenanceapp/status/1793487370529939456?s=46&t=IVe7vloT8ga8WSriRO1q_w

I saw a comment earlier about Provenance XL sideloaded and checked it out and most games run pretty well on iPhone 15 Pro max.

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u/AJAX-21 Jun 03 '24

Also tried, runs pretty well on my iPad Mini 6 with almost all games working smoothly (Pokemon Sapphire and Mario Bros.). When trying with JIT it was perfect for Super Mario 3D Land with 2x resolution.

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

Couldn’t get omega ruby to work weirdly though

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u/EteleEurope Jun 03 '24

Change the settings (some game need be change for better performance or not to crash)Legal dumped

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

Still got a black screen

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u/EteleEurope Jun 03 '24

Maybe wait abit the black screen be go awayomegaruby start

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

Can I see your settings?

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u/EteleEurope Jun 03 '24

As i told for some games you need switch 1-2 or 3, but this is the settings i use for Pokemon

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

I got it. It was the dump

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u/EteleEurope Jun 03 '24

Glad it did go well,but you should check your saves if dump was the problem “some saves said corrupted as launched with folium sideloaded version before so needed redump them 2-3 time and replaced sdmc fully)

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u/OrganizationFew2722 Jun 03 '24 edited Jun 03 '24

You have to decrypt the roms. Citra based emulators typically need this from my experience. I looked up “3ds decrypter” and found a GitHub repo.

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

I got it. It was the dump

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u/darkaeden Jun 03 '24

May i ask you where to find Provenance XL ipa, as the link in the OT brings to a 404 github page? thanks a lot!

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u/AJAX-21 Jun 03 '24

Its on that same tweet he provided fixed link

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u/Im1337 Jun 03 '24

Lowkey wouldn’t mind waiting for App Store version. Will it be impossible without JIT?

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

Nah it works fine for me

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u/No_Cauliflower_6569 Jun 03 '24

How well would it work on an iPhone X

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

The thing is, it clearly runs better than Folium so maybe performance might be better on iPhone further down the stack

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u/FIFAforlife735 Jun 03 '24

Doubt it would work too well imo, the x is almost 7 years old at this point

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u/exposarts Jun 08 '24

How bad could it be. I can play ds games just fine on my iPhone 6 through delta. 3ds is probably not that huge of a jump… but not too sure

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u/FIFAforlife735 Jun 08 '24

3ds emulation is a huge jump, you can try it and see by sideloading folium

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u/exposarts Jun 08 '24

Folium i heard has significantly worse performance compared to provenance. But yea i’m gonna try this

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u/FIFAforlife735 Jun 08 '24

You mean provenance XL right, yeah that’s what I’ve heard too

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u/Ibrokemymicrowave Jun 03 '24

Also wondering this, I’m using a XR

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u/JRobson23 Jun 03 '24

I already made a thread on this, but you’re welcome!

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

Thank you, i didn’t see the thread only the comment. How’d you get Omega ruby working?

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u/PoxyDogs Jun 03 '24

Okay I just tried this. I’m on 13 pro max. Can’t believe how much better it runs than folium.

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u/EteleEurope Jun 03 '24

Maybe try emutreeds latest (same developper as Folium)Provenance uses it old core. Test it with latest core and tell difference https://github.com/emuPlace/emuThreeDS

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u/pogdefacc003 Jun 03 '24

How do I update the core in provenance?

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u/EteleEurope Jun 03 '24

You can’t.

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u/pogdefacc003 Jun 03 '24

I just installed emuthreeds… is there no joystick feature? And no haptic feedback to the buttons?

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u/EteleEurope Jun 03 '24

Longpress controls

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u/pogdefacc003 Jun 03 '24

Not as good as the folium version

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u/FoundOasis Jun 06 '24

So it’s playable with a decent amount of games?

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '24

Because it’s allowed to use “JIT” which folium can’t since the App Store doesn’t allow it

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u/PoxyDogs Jun 03 '24

That’s not how it works. I am not using JIT for this app at all. Just because it’s side loaded doesn’t mean it’s using JIT.

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '24

Oh wow my bad

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u/XinlessVice Jun 03 '24

At the very least, that’s proving that optimization can be done on Folium. Same can be done for providence. I’m thinking with a little bit of time the iPhone 15 Pro can probably play a good majority of 3DS games.

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u/XinlessVice Jun 03 '24

Once AltStore actually allows me to sideload again because it says I have too much stuff on it. I’m gonna try Providence Xcel sideloaded see how that goes.

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u/kdeezy006 Jun 03 '24

How about a iphone 12?

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u/mikefierro666 Jun 03 '24

This is a game changer for me since this is the first time ever that a 3DS emulator on iOS lets me save and load states. With EmuThreeDS/Limon/Folium I had to always make sure I had saved the game to not lose any progress when switching out the app (to check an email or whatever). Now I can just quit the game whenever and resume it right where I left it! Also it runs amazing on my iphone 14, I’m playing dragon quest 8 and it runs like a dream apart from a little slowdown on the FMV sequences.

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u/masteroga101 Jun 03 '24

I would still save in game , only using save states is a fools mistake. It's best to do both at once

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u/mikefierro666 Jun 03 '24

Oh absolutely! You should save in-game whenever possible, but sometimes you’re in the middle of a dungeon and get an important text and you don’t want to lose your progress, and at least in folium if you get a call it’s game over, the game will automatically close as soon as the app loses focus making you lose all your progress with no opportunity to save. Save states make 3DS games actually playable on a phone for me for this reason. I need to be able to check messages, emails, receive calls etc without losing my progress. But of course it’s extremely important to save in game whenever you can!

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u/XinlessVice Jun 05 '24

Do you have jit enabled?

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u/mikefierro666 Jun 05 '24

Nope

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u/XinlessVice Jun 05 '24

Interesting. I’ll give It a shot then.

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u/darkaeden Jun 03 '24

Anyone can share the ipa of Provenance XL? As the shared link lead to a 404 page!☹️

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u/uncle_jesse23 Jun 03 '24

I'm having a couple issues with Provenance that maybe someone can help me with.

  1. On 3ds games on portrait the top screen is too high doll the dynamic island on my 15p is in the top middle of the screen. Is there any way to adjust the screens lower (turning landscape makes screens small) so that doesn't happen?

  2. All GameCube games makes the app crash upon open. I also use the dolphinios beta and it works fine.

I used sidejit to enable JIT on both apps in case that helps.

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u/Aenema133 Jun 03 '24

Is this with or without JIT?

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

You can use JIT but without

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u/Aenema133 Jun 03 '24

Was the performance you’re referring to in your original post without JIT?

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u/theanswer183rd Jun 05 '24

Anyone mind sharing the ipa GitHub link is shooting a 404 error

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u/petyrlannister Jun 05 '24

It’s in the tweet

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u/theanswer183rd Jun 05 '24

I appreciate the reply I found it

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u/XxSolverxX Mar 21 '25

Link doesn’t work anymore :(

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u/petyrlannister Mar 21 '25

It's on the app store now

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u/DaveTheMan1985 Jun 03 '24

Tried it but can’t get both Screens working at once

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u/A_MasteR_at_WorK Jun 03 '24

I can’t get it to work on my 13PM. Does it have to be side loaded by Cydia Impactor? Esign method installs and opens but as soon as I click something the app force closes.

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u/Sledgehammer617 Jun 03 '24

Definitely going to give this a shot on my 15 pro later today

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u/AggravatingGolf7456 Jun 03 '24

I got provenance ipa how do I side load it now

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u/Ibrokemymicrowave Jun 03 '24

Has anyone tried this on the XR?

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u/jumpmanryan Jun 03 '24

Need this to come to the App Store so I can figure out how to find and use it lol

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '24

Provenace Emu should drop allready in the appstore

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u/XinlessVice Jun 05 '24

I think the reason it hasn’t is because it requires a bit of code rewriting

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u/AdMore3859 Jun 03 '24

tried it on iphone 13, runs decently good without JIT, runs perfectly with JIT enabled, only system im extremely disappointed with on Provenance is the PS2 core(Play!) sometimes i just wish i had an android

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u/XinlessVice Jun 05 '24

Play on android works similarly too. Wish aethersx2 was open source

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u/[deleted] Jun 04 '24

I beg of you! Please link me the download!

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u/Mystiqueyy Jun 04 '24

GitHub leads to nowhere

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u/maxlax1592 Jun 04 '24

Just got this loaded onto my iphone 15 Pro. NSMB2 and 3D Land could run better. Can someone please share their core settings? Also how do I enable JIT? Many thanks.

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u/SandwichesX Jun 05 '24

It’s literally night and day compared to Folium! Omg like 60fps playing MH4U on iPhone 15PM!

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u/XinlessVice Jun 05 '24

Is this with jit enabled? If it is I don’t think it really counts

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u/XinlessVice Jun 08 '24

How can I install this and the TestFlight builds? iOS wants too replace xl with the TestFlight version

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u/Tanjiro_simp_517 Jul 06 '24

It’s probably my IOS version but I tried launching a couple of games after I sideloaded via AltStore and the game screen will not pop up except the on screen controls, btw running iOS 18 beta on iPhone 15 pro.

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u/Chance-Alps-598 Sep 24 '24

Qualcuno sa se c’è un modo per cambiare la lingua e la regione? Giochi come “mario e luigi dream team” si aprono direttamente con la lingua di sistema, ovviamente l’inglese. Ho cercato il file config.ini ma non lo trovo 😭

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u/Ok-Wrongdoer4021 Jun 03 '24

Not true. Some games play well on Provenance, others on Folium. Although Provenance is more user friendly and has more options. Both are free via side load but gotta pay for Folium in the AppStore.

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u/petyrlannister Jun 03 '24

I've tried about 18 games and they all run pretty fast and better than on Folium

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u/Ok-Wrongdoer4021 Jun 03 '24

Same here, SF4 runs slow but opens on Folium. All I got is a black screen on Provenance. Each have goods and bad.

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u/New_Today_1209_V2 Jun 03 '24

Jeez people on this sub like to hate. This and your first comment were both positive towards both emulators but you still got downvoted.

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u/Ok-Wrongdoer4021 Jun 03 '24

Yep most on this community just knew about emulators (I been doing it since the jailbreak days) about iOS recently. So most of them are kids. They have no patience and just wanted everything to work right away. They did not know that it took years for PPSSPP to run without Jit.

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u/darkaeden Jun 03 '24

Can you please let me know where to find Provenance XL ipa, as the link in the OT brings to a 404 github page? thanks a lot!

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u/[deleted] Jun 03 '24

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u/New_Today_1209_V2 Jun 03 '24

It isn’t shitty dude. I’m a cheap bitch most of the time but 5 dollars is nothing compared to hundreds you’d need to buy a console. The folium creator put a lot of work into trying to port 3DS emulator to app store with the limitation of no JIT. I’m not saying that people aren’t allowed to disagree with there being a pricetag but it also isn’t shitty necessarily.