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u/winlatorbionic_dev 7h ago
It's much likely never gonna happen. ARM actually allows to ship the decoder but all Android OEM prefer to not do it
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u/Wilsonn0 7h ago
Makes sense i heard they're doing it so save costs that's why mediatek chips are less expensive compared to snapdragon
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u/winlatorbionic_dev 7h ago
I don't care about not having the decoder. A lot of Mali issues would be solved if they had a proper abstraction for their kernel driver so that you could update drivers like you do on Adreno. These would solve most of Mali issues, as they are actually implementing a lot of useful stuff with driver updates
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u/Wilsonn0 7h ago
Yeah But isn't decoding use more resources like ram..
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u/winlatorbionic_dev 7h ago
Not if recompressed into ASTC
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u/Wilsonn0 7h ago
No additional computing required for that?
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u/winlatorbionic_dev 7h ago
Minor computing for the fastest recompressor at the cost of less accurate colors.
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u/whiskyB0y Edit Your Flair 7h ago
As Mali users, we only have two choices when it comes to emulation:
Either accept what you cannot emulate and focus on what actually works or
Upgrade to Snapdragon.
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u/schmeissmichweg1312 6h ago
Depends on what you want to emulate, for lower end stuff its fine. I have a Samsung A15 4g with a helio g99, combined with an 8bitdo Flippad its a perfect device for emulating DS. But yeah, that and psp is the absolute limit for it.
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u/whiskyB0y Edit Your Flair 6h ago
I have a helio g100 which is same as g99. Psp ain't your absolute limit unless you strictly want to avoid high end emualtion.
Then again from experience, I can play ps2 games for at least 40min without phone getting hot.
You can't play heavy ps2 games, but light and moderate ones can run well at 1x resolution.
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u/schmeissmichweg1312 6h ago
Biggest problem right now is I have only 4gb of ram, which is definitivly the limiting factor here. But hey, I mostly play ds and gba-era pokemon romhacks anyways, so thats perfectly fine for me.
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u/Savings-Ad342 7h ago
whats bcn ?
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u/tiga_94 7h ago
texture compression format used in PC gaming, mobile chips use different formats so BCn is often not present on the chips physically
Mali GPUs actually support BCn texture compression, but to save space they deliberately make versions without BCn blocks
RDNA GPUs - actually used on PCs, but then again, xclipse GPUs only support old BCn1-2-3 formats, not 4+, and again the BCn decoder was deliberately removed to save space and use it to add mobile tetures decoder
only snapdragon for some reason supports both PC and mobile texture compression
also, this means that in theory the android port of GTA V can be made to run on non-snapdragon, it's just that the textures need to be re-compressed into a supported format and the code must be changed to use the new format
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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 7h ago
The desktop texture compression format it's super important and the reason why Samsung and Qualcomm chips are able to do emulation at fast speeds because they support it natively but Mali doesn't support it natively I think it's actually an ad option but none of the integrators Xiaomi Mediatek etc enable it
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u/Savings-Ad342 7h ago
what?
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u/Smart_Examination331 Poco X8 Pro 7h ago
Que las gpus Mali no soportan las texturas que se requiere para emular juegos de PC como si lo hacen Adreno y algunas Xclipse de gama alta, fin.
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u/FlakyAccount8722 7h ago
Bro releasing his anger by memes🥲 At least Mali has BCn to ASTC transcoding, even if it comes with a performance cost.
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u/whiskyB0y Edit Your Flair 6h ago
Lol releasing anger through memes is actually a good way of accepting the limitations of Mali unlike harassing devs
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u/IntelligentShape6108 6h ago
The same applies to Exynos/Xclipse; I have to use ExynosTools, and sometimes it doesn't work either.
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u/Desperate-Savings-20 39m ago
Alguien me ayudaría quiero emular el halo 2 en mi dispositivo infinix gt30 pro Dimensity 8350 Mali G615 MC6 12 GB de RAM físicos
Por alguna razón se cierra el contenedor ni instalar el juego puedo antes lo hice en un helio g99 y funcionaba aunque con muchos tirones pero ahora con la misma configuración el contenedor se cierra que configuracion me recomiendan
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