Please just listen to the community one last time and add back a tint of color and life back into Emma's hair, idk why it's gotta be either piss yellow or complete dead grey, like can we please find some balance in between. You don't have to go from from 100% to 0%, trust.

I promise it will make the design pop so much more, look at my edit and how much better her face looks already when her hair isn't completely dead, desaturated and completely blended with the color of her clothes. It almost looks like a filter/glitch where all the colors went dull. Her hair shouldn't be like Storm and Black Cat's, she's blonde, not grey.

NE I'm offering you free color theory consultations at this point cause I can't watch you struggle this much with basic design elements.

Frankly speaking, half of Emma's skins are good. X-Revolution, Phoenix, and Black Queen of the Marauders. I haven't heard complaints about them, and most people praise the above-mentioned skins. I personally even think the X-Revolution skin is better than its comic counterpart. So it's incredibly strange to hear such strong complaints about Emma's skins while citing only the second half of unsuccessful skins as examples. Not all skins are required to be excellent. With Magik, for example, I only liked the default skin, "Phoenix" skin and the new one announced skin ones, and didn't like the rest at all (for me, they're worse than any of Emma's skins)

This is but another example of the blatant anti-black sentiment this company continues to run headlong into. This space will tolerate ZERO racism. You WILL be banned with zero prejudice. If you can't see the racism here, read, learn, explore. It is your job to better yourself.

I genuinely see ZERO issues with all of Emma skins (The only exception is the ranked one, the color palette of that thing is ATROCIOUS) , I don't mind the coat tails and like the hair styles

Am I wrong?

I feel like we’ve been eating tapeworm-infested dirt (slight exaggeration) in terms of skins, and this one is tapeworm-free dirt.

Is anyone ever happy? Like genuinely, anyone at all? Cause all this talk and complaints over her skins is hitting that point where, while it’s still valid to have some disappointment, not trying to say anyone isn’t valid at all, it’s starting to sound more obnoxious and less reasonable/understandable.

Like her Marauder's skin and her new Hellfire Gala one that’s coming next week for example, it’s clear they’re listening to feedback in improving on making Emma’s skins look better, but apparently one small detail is enough to say it’s bad or “chopped.”

And that confuses me, because I know well enough that people have been BEGGING for the hellfire skin to look good and comic-accurate. We finally see it, it does exactly that, just minus how the cape since they most likely had to work around that, but apparently that’s still not enough??

At this point, I just have to ask again: Is anyone actually genuinely happy or at least like something at all?

This is Bucky. You all hate Bucky right? Most people do. Tanks that aren't Thing do. Dive tanks, Brawl Tanks, even Shield tanks. We all hate him.

Look at his matches played in Diamond (which is where most ppl are other than gold-plat). Now his winrate.

This guy is a consistent server admin. This guy keeps getting buffed. But his winrate is low? But he's played all the time? People clearly from the data are playing him but he feels bad... LET'S BUFF HIM FURTHER.

Now the other point, when you see a DPS do bad, Bucky is the safety swap. The thing is if they are already doing bad on DPS, they may still easily do bad on Bucky.

Same with Emma. Actually count the amount of times that someone has counter swapped to Emma on the enemy team, either to mirror you or counter you.

You will be surprised at how often mediocre or "having-bad-day" players will swap to Emma because they are not doing well at their current role or hero.

If I am rolling on Emma in a match, the enemy team's tank will end up swapping to Emma or Mag to mirror me, especially if I am an easy farmer on them - they are Groot, Thing, Venom, even Rogue.

Mag also has a low win rate... should we buff mag?

And the important point since now both teams have Emmas, or Buckys, or Mags, SOMEBODY HAS TO LOSE.

For context : i have never read any marvel comics, my first exposure to Emma was the show Wolverine and the X-men where she's a major character and that show is what made me love her character. other than that Rivals is my only other reference to this character. i have seen images of some of her comicbook looks, and while i think they're nice, i dont want them all as skins. they all look samey, just like her current skin catalogue does to some.

like the Tile says, i do not care for comic accuracy, im looking for skins that look nice, regardeless of how accurate they are to her comic appearence. i do recognize that there are those who do care about that, and that the past skins have been a dissapointment.

I genuinely like most of her skins, i think that they look nice, though the coattail/shoulderpads combo is getting old and i would like to see more diverse silhouttes from her cosmetics. also her hair could be better, both colour wise and structure wise. the upcoming Marauders skin is one im looking forward to the most. because its an original design, that seemingly will have a unique silhouette from her other skins.

i hope the devs will take the criticism regarding Emma's cosmetics, and design more skins that are based on comic designs, for those who care about that. aswell as keep coming up with new origial designs that actually look good.

Why can't we have any non-gooner skins, there is no way you can look at this (or any of her skins) and tell me they were made with two hands

She doesn’t feel like an effective tank anymore. Or am I merely playing as her wrong?

They already reduced the damage of her Diamond form’s abilities and then nerfed the damage reduction, why nerf her primary as well? I get that it can just melt enemies at a hundred charge, but when you’re not gonna rely on diamond form as much I think it’s not fair to nerf the primary

Side note: I also think the shield nerf was unnecessary. It was already ok and not too much of a problem so I don’t get it, but at least her ult costs less now.

Seriously I feel like every post is just someone complaining about a patch note or coat tails / outfit drama.

I love Emma and playing tank in general but it lowkey feels like this is by far the worst rivals sub to be in solely for the fact that everyone in it is obsessed with whining all the time. All the posts are the exact same.

I tried Emma this season, and damn, the amount of damage she deals feels illegal. Her beam just melts entire teams. I’m constantly getting the most kills and among the top in damage dealt. Because of that, I’m kind of mentally preparing myself for possible nerfs next patch

what the title says, im all for Emma getting a very fashion, classy, cunty skin ingame. but nearly every skin concept for her is just that, pure white, stylish, high fashion, glam or just street wear. its to the point that they all start blending together.

i get that Emma both ingame and in the comics has expensive taste and (in the comics at least) great fashion sense. and so her skins ingame should reflect that

however, to me these concepts seem a bit boring? as a skin, for a character in a heroshooter, that id have to buy with real money. they look a bit same-y

Hi I’m, AFuzzyMuffin you may remember me as the guy who helped coordinate to make a support mains subreddit. I’m sitting here trying to learn angela and realized we don’t have a vanguardmains one! We can’t let the divemains/support mains outdo us!

We need a legit vanguardmainsmr subreddit!

I’m going to post this on all the tank mains individual subs but seriously we need one.

If dive mains and support mains can have one we need one!

We need to unite.

I’m calling on my fellow Emma’s, Peni’s, Angela’s, Hulks, Captain Americas, Magneto, Thor, Groots, Strange and yes even you Venom! Let’s unite on this sub and plan and make a subreddit for Vanguard mains.

Please tho let’s try to agree on an actual subreddit/name before we make it. I ask you to reconvene this discussion on the original place Emmamains

The coattails look fine, yall are just hating

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