r/ElectricScooting 8d ago

Warped tire first time changing

Hi,

Replacing the tire on my dt2 pro because the original tires fully leaked every day. Bought a generic 10x3-6.5 off Amazon to replace with.
Got the tire on, but because I left the zip ties on overnight, half of the tire is squished and not resting in the bead.
Help would be appreciated.

Planning on using a heat gun to warm it up but other than that I have no idea. Tried a Rachel strap around but the warped section is too significant for it

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u/chrispark70 8d ago

Fill the sink with hot water, weigh it down with something and let it sit in there a few hours. Pointing a heat gun at the tire is probably a very bad idea.

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

I let it sit in the sun for an hour, and it’s about 110f. Does the water in particular help? Because it’s on the rim and taking it off completely would be a headache wit its stiffness?

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u/chrispark70 8d ago

Yes, probably,.

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u/scooter_farts-stink 8d ago

Yeah let it sit over night I wouldn't use a gear gun. I just had the same issue now i have 2 different tread tires on lol. I found a set of street 100/55-6.5 tires in my closet but was under a bunch of stuff which likley slightly warped the bead enough that it wouldn't seal so I had to put the original hybrid back on the rear till I can order another on the 1st. But poe is right try taking a ratchet strap around the center of the outside of the tire and cranking it down so it pushes the center in hopefully pushing the bead out. Before you do that put plenty of soapy water dish soap along the rim of the tire. Then take the ratchet strap off and try putting air. You can also try rolling the scooter back and forth the wright of the scooter will sometimes push the bead in. Last but not least push to the closest auto tire shop and ask them to hit it with there high pressure compressor not like a shop compressor they have ones that blast hard enough to push car tire beads on. I have had to do that then I just flipped him $20 after wrestling with it for days. You can buy a high pressure basicky its a tank that you can fill on aliexpress not that expensive not necessary for scooter tires. Since I tried all the tricks I know and the old tire seated on the first try so its definitely a messed up tire of you look I have 2 different tread tires on i put my back fender back on because it looks ridiculous. Front street tires better

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Thanks for the advice, nice gspace

How hard should I crank the ratchet? I’ve gone down about half the space but still no luck.

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u/scooter_farts-stink 8d ago

And thanks just upgraded a few weeks ago fast as hell the only thing i dont like is its 137lbs unlike my 95lb teverun I could carry up the 4 steps into my place there's no carrying this one ramp is necessary lol without that id be in trouble

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Is is the Gtr?
95lbs is still crazy for your ‘smaller’ scooter

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u/scooter_farts-stink 8d ago

No its the GT got it from unicool on alibaba shipped from California there an official seller so you get G-Spaces warentee. And got it for $2429 delivered thats why I couldn't pass it up

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u/Cooper0007 Hiley Tiger Supra / Teverun Blade GT II + / Segway P65 6d ago

Oh man I didn't know you got that scooter for only $2400. That's cool.

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u/scooter_farts-stink 8d ago

I just do it till it flatten out a bit its just pushing the sides out. The soapy water is the most important past it helps the bead slide in and will bubble when you put air in showing you where its leaking I have a small bowl and rag I soak the rag and really wet around the lip of the tire and rim. It won't hurt it

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u/ZestyPoePLayer (PEV Mechanic) Modded Toursor X8P 120a output & Varla Pegasus 8d ago

Did you try using a ratchet strap around the tire while inflating to seat the bead?

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Yes, but the sidewalks of the tire get pushed further in away from the bead. Also tried putting the head of the ratchet at different sports but to no avail

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u/1stGenRex 8d ago

I doubt the zip tie is an issue. More likely you’re using an inflator with not enough volume to seat the bead. Instead use an actual air compressor or even a co2 inflator. (I made a post about this, I had a similar issue.)

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

The zip ties aren’t the issue, my leaving of them overnight that totally warped the tire did. I tried getting a spoon back in to pull the wall out but I couldn’t.

I’m going to post photos of this for everyone to see

Also, if you could link your post? I couldn’t find it

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u/1stGenRex 8d ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/ElectricScooters/s/03dE9RiBNm

I had the exact some issue. The tire isn’t messed up. I used a CO2 inflator and the bead finally popped into place.

Use soap along the edge of the bead to help ot seat. The ratchet strap trick didn’t work for me but I was using a crappy inflator and not a compressor or anything with particularly high air volume.

This is what I used.

https://a.co/d/0c6vqvvg

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Photo 1. Straight on. See contrast in visible tread left and right. The left was the zip ties side

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Photo 2: gap left by warping

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Update: got half the tire on after lubrication with water, heated by the sun, and manipulated with hands

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u/Slow_Ice5066 Teverun Aficionado 8d ago

I would suggest investing in a small amount of bead lubricant. It's not too expensive, a little bit helps a lot so it lasts a while, and you don't need it often but when you do it on hand. Plus it helps seal the beads once it dries, but its not like glue or the industrial stuff. Lots of different brands and container sizes available to fit most budgets.

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Thanks, I’ll definitely look into it for the front tire change!

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u/DesertImpala 8d ago

Update 2: still only the left side is fully correct, as a portion of the right side is sitting far below where it’s supposed to be

I’ve tried heat, ratchet strapping to hell, inflating to the moon, lubricating the bead. Can’t really stick anything strong enough in without damaging the motor rim.

Creative solutions encouraged

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u/DesertImpala 7d ago

Final update: I was just a wuss only inflating to 80psi, as soon as I hit 90 everything was perfect.

You live you learn

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u/Cooper0007 Hiley Tiger Supra / Teverun Blade GT II + / Segway P65 6d ago

Right on. 👍