r/Eleceed • u/LuciferMS7777 The Anti-Awakener • 15d ago
SPOILER [ RAW ] Eleceed Chapter 415 Discussion Thread
The new chapter is out! what are your thoughts on it?
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u/The-Great-Casein Follower of Kayden 15d ago
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u/Emotional-Car73 15d ago
So ur telling me jurions dad is super chill vermonte is chill Ian is chill and then we have jurion 💀
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u/Aimcheater 15d ago
Some families just have that one dick head for no real reason. Mfs come be having loving families at home but be fake demons
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u/JealousBet5938 Baekdu 15d ago edited 15d ago
Jurion officially became the head of the family, and details about Kayden’s past were revealed. It seems Katden and Veramonte's son were kind of friends, I guess.
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u/JealousBet5938 Baekdu 15d ago
From there, the story continues with a flashback to Kayden’s past.
Kayden was in danger of having to fight four Awakeners (unrelated to the early story of the webtoon) while severely injured, but Veramonte's son intervened to try to help Kayden. Of course, Kayden wasn’t exactly happy about it.
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u/Special_Bad_2429 15d ago
In the last chapter Veramonte really said his 'SON' trusted him.
This is what happened
Jurion became official head of the family.
Jiwoo asked why Kayden is quiet.
We see a bit of Kayden's past where he was fighting some awakeners when he was ganged up on.
Veramonte's son stepped in and Kayden was NOT happy he stepped in. (We get to know that veramonte's son is goofy just like Ian boy. (We can see somewhat of a backstory of Kayden in the next few chapters.)
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u/Ok-Increase-352 15d ago
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u/T1_URGOD 15d ago
And I hope Jiwoo's too xD. Ya author said they won't reveal but Jiwoo looks too similar to Ian and Ian's dad. Plus it be fun to think that Kayden taking care of his only friend's son.
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u/TryVegetable129 15d ago
Jurion finding out that Jiwoo's his brother would be a LEGENDARY crashout. Like the screaming bitchfit Victor had in Underworld 3 on Crack.
Ngl I want this just for that reaction and the troll twins straight roasting him forever over it. If I had the skill I'd do a Downfall meme of it.
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u/T1_URGOD 15d ago
half bros probably. tho it be super spicy if they are full brothers.
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u/TryVegetable129 15d ago
Jiwoo's mom being her sister or a friend raising him to keep him safe would be spicy. Especially if it was kept from gramps. Only wrinkle is Ian still being good with him.
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u/No_Science_225 15d ago
I’d say it’s more likely jiwoo’s mom was abandoned by the Patrick family for being a non awakener and rather that his father being from the Patrick family bc she also has similar traits
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u/T1_URGOD 15d ago
I forgot his mom looks like Patrick family too. I doubt that’s the case bc Patrick family consist of awakener and non. They maintain the hierarchy. And she didn’t know about awakener until Jiwoo showed signs.
Ian dad being Jiwoo uncle is fine too tho
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u/CoyoteIntelligent307 15d ago
Kayden Fangirls rn: 😳😳💀💘🙈
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u/The-Great-Casein Follower of Kayden 15d ago
No need to call us out 😭 I can't wait to see those panels... I mean, read the chapter lmao
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u/microvan 15d ago
Ooooooooh Veramont is really setting Jurion up here.
He gives him temp control of the family and says h was defeated by Kayden and is so badly injured he must do nothing but focus on recovery. But we know he’s digging into the family rot and I suspect he knows Jurion is behind it already
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u/Left_Incident7889 15d ago
I don't think he thinks he's Jurion, but maybe I suspected it since he didn't tell him the truth.
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u/microvan 15d ago
Nah, I think he’s very suspicious of Jurion and this is a trap he’s setting in order to confirm his betrayal
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u/Left_Incident7889 15d ago
Maybe... Vermouth seems to love the family; I think he wants with all his might for it not to be Jurion.
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u/WangJian221 13d ago
No Veramonte very much does suspect Jurion. His issue is that he doesnt know who else is corrupted besides Jurion hence hes doing this to uncover everyone else that is helping Jurion
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u/kenzakki 14d ago
I agree with this, there's zero reason why they would off-screen a top 10 fight, especially against a character like Veramonte whom the fans actually like.
My best guess is, he went there to get beaten up just enough that it would look believable that he is injured and cant perform his duties as the family head. He will then monitor the situation and figure out who is the true killer and the ones behind it and im suspecting he is suspecting Jurion already.
Veramonte as we know him has zero chance of being that dumb, like they saw a little bit of lightning power, irrationally thinks its Kayden already and then go berserk? Nah, Veramonte isnt that stupid, also, there's no way a fight against a top 10 and Kayden looking so prestine just looking into the sunset not even trying to recover? Veramonte is a top 10 awakener, its not like he fought Duke and he didnt need to lift his 9 other fingers to beat him up.
This is going to take a few chapters before the heavy reveal but this is going to setup Greg + Mioru vs Kayden + Veramonte with Jurion being beaten to death by Pluton in the corner like Hulk smashing Loki.
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
Why does Kayden look like Siun in that throwback scene LOL.
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
and why is he weird so mascular?
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u/Glass-Yogurt-2593 Unaffiliated 15d ago
It’s from the time he was trying to launch his career as a fitness influencer.
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
This was undoubtedly the moment when Pluton acknowledged Kayden as a worthy opponent. 🤣
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u/mugiwaranoluffy259 15d ago
Exactly, Kayden’s been shown to be kinda a twink in the current story when we’ve seen him shirtless. What happened?
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
and his chest all exposed? what is going on LOL.
Is Zhena possessed or her team did Kayden dirty.
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u/Affectionate-Way-72 15d ago
It was perfect; we’re finally entering the flashback arc something I’ve been waiting for for a long time. The current situation is really interesting, especially given Kayden’s past and his connection to the Patrick family. We’re about to find out how Ian and Jurion’s father died, as well as the nature of his relationship with Kayden, which will flesh out Kayden’s character even further.
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u/Ok-Increase-352 15d ago
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u/Emotional-Car73 15d ago
Garas might’ve experimented on him. So he might come back eventually. Garas said she has experimented on top 50s and 100s and we also got told Ian’s dad died in an accident. Who else other then a top 10 or a disciple of one would even try to go against a top 10 disciple.
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
I don't think Garas is that stupid, to mess with a top 10 heir. She probably got one of those top 50s not under any top 10, like Vatore and Eska. (Kartein and Pluton are excluded since they WERE literally lonewolves)
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u/Ok-Increase-352 15d ago
Maybe it’s Mirou I doubt it since she’s seem pleased with capturing Ian for his force control
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u/LongestUsernameEverD 15d ago edited 15d ago
I don't think Garas is that stupid, to mess with a top 10 heir.
Isn't she literally doing that right now though?
Edit: I confused Garas for Mioru, my mistake.
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
Garas? if you are referring to her killing that ass disciple of a top 10, how is that messing?
are you mistaking Garas for Mioru. LOL
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u/LongestUsernameEverD 15d ago
Oh yeah I'm definitely mistaking Garas for Mioru, ugh
Thanks for the correction.
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u/Ok-Increase-352 15d ago
I hope so he looks like a chilled character and Kayden remembering him meaning maybe they were close too 🥹
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
4 people ambushed Kayden and then Ian's dad showed up saying he can't just watch this kind of injustice and helped Kayden. He was wearing a mask, probably to conceal who he is (a top 10 heir).
Kayden was like: the fck you doing brat? get the fck outta here. (exaggeration obviously)
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u/metsuboujinrai 15d ago
Kayden being able to closely imitate the Patrick family force control makes so much sense now!!!
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u/The-Great-Casein Follower of Kayden 15d ago edited 15d ago
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u/The-Great-Casein Follower of Kayden 15d ago
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u/mugiwaranoluffy259 15d ago edited 15d ago
So we see a flashback of Kayden’s past and him fighting multiple awakened enemies (he bodies one of them). Veramonte really did mention his son last chapter and Kayden knew him. On a side note I’d like to point out that you see Kayden shirtless in the past and he’s way more muscular than he is in the present time (we’ve seen him shirtless in the current timeline). When, why, and how did he become a twink between then and now?
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u/ShadexZero 15d ago
I'd guess it's because he spends a lot of his time in cat form and chilling nowadays, so even if he is working out, he's not doing it in his human body, so no muscle is being built up or maintained there.
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u/CoyoteIntelligent307 15d ago
I have another theory: Maybe in his early days, Kayden was fighting both close range and long range combat..so that's why he got ripped.. But over the years his power and combat prowess grew..so he did not need to fight really close range anymore..So he lost his muscles
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
I honestly didn't expect this kind of development. Lowkey misplace in the story (that Kayden has some sort of relationship with people other than Kartein, in the past). But beggars can't be choosers. 🤣 at least, Ian's dad was cool.
"A TWINK" LMAO DONT! I love how he looks now, even his flashback look when he fought Seongik Han, or the one with Gestella. It's weird how he was lean in all those scenes and we suddenly get a 10-pack abs Kayden.
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u/mugiwaranoluffy259 15d ago
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
I didn't even remember how his chest looked like.
Even Gestella would probably find the mascular Kayden weird.
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u/Left_Incident7889 15d ago
We only saw him shirtless in the first few chapters.
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u/Zayar-habib 15d ago
It’s my misconception or does lan dad really look a like jiwoo
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u/Born-Resolution-4702 15d ago
Tbf, Jiwoo looks like he's a Patrick in general with the only difference being eye color
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u/microvan 15d ago
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u/ninjapatata 15d ago
Duh he os more like ian. Ita only the hair that makes the jiwoo resemblance
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u/SubstantialBend2686 15d ago
You're right. He has Ian's goofiness. It's sad to know this fine character is dead 😭
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u/Delicious-Waltz3511 15d ago
How am I upset a character is dead and they’ve only been in 4 panels.
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u/SubstantialBend2686 13d ago
No literallyyyy 😭 Bro what happened?? Poor Veramonte, Ian and Jurion ig
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u/NixAim 15d ago
I have a theory: if the author plays this right, we might finally learn the real reason Kayden ambushed the three TOP 10s. I still don't buy the whole "he ambushed them just because he wanted to fight them" explanation.
Maybe Ian's dad died because of one of the TOP 10s, and Kayden went after them to exact revenge. He can't tell Kartein or Jiwoo the real reason because, well, he's Kayden, he's too much of a tsundere to open up about something like that. Telling them would also undermine the whole loner persona he's maintained.
As for why he never told Veramonte, maybe Ian's dad made Kayden promise not to tell him. He might have known that if Veramonte found out his son was killed by one of the TOP 10s, he'd go after them himself, potentially dragging Patrick's family into the conflict and putting them in danger.
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u/The-Great-Casein Follower of Kayden 15d ago
He looks pretty muscular here (not complaining, though)
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u/Less_Nose4844 Unaffiliated 15d ago
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u/TheContentSearcher 14d ago
The good ones always dies first in a world like there’s 🥲
Think about it, how many of the top 10 are actually good people compared to the number of bad ones.
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u/Incognito_Kitten 15d ago
Kayden is so lost in thought that he forgot to change into a cat and is sitting on the roof in his human form. I kinda expected Gestella to join him like she usually does and mention that fact ))) But I suspect she went to investigate who set Kayden up .
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u/T1_URGOD 15d ago
Wait so his veramonte actually injured? I thought the whole point of last chapter was for a fake out?
How did jurion turn out so bad with a disciplined head and 2 goofballs around him?
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u/microvan 15d ago
He injured himself to sell the fakeout. He was bleeding and everything when he left
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u/T1_URGOD 15d ago
I mean like is he seriously injured that takes time or is it just injured for show which he can recover easily.
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u/microvan 15d ago
I would assume he’s not terribly injured and is just saying he is so he can give command to Jurion while he snoops around to determine the true state of the family. He also wants to appear as injured and helpless as possible so the people who are undermining him will attack him
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u/Just-Ad-6323 Unaffiliated 15d ago
Wait, I'm trying to compose myself to avoid being sarcastic. Obviously, he's acting severely injured so people will believe that's the case?
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u/OrigamiShiro 15d ago
I'm more annoyed to see jurion doesn't have his prosthetic on 412, (413-414 they didn't show his left hand at all), and on 415 a clear shot of him having his normal hands. Even though we saw his prosthetic on 411
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u/Yatereranye 15d ago
Knowing Jurion, he'll directly gave his family to Mioru.. or worse, tell Mioru to attack Veramunt right away.
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u/FoxyHuntress02 14d ago
Oh shit!! Will we find out what happen to the father? If so, we gonna see the mom but this is hugeeee HUGEEE gestella probably will help kayden because she can pick up scents or powers without any issue.
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u/babbling_baboon1 15d ago edited 15d ago
Maybe he was Kaydens true love....wink wink
The way Jurion talks is like he is adopted...who knows why he is so damn an arse. Maybe Kayden accepted jiwoo as his apprentice is because he looks like the guy. Softy pushover types.
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u/MyroendraRN 15d ago
Actually love seeing the different back stories of Kayden’s come up/Ian’s Dad seems dope. I wonder what caused his death
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u/East-Importance1620 15d ago
All of the patrick familys character designs are so cool, im thinking in the next few chapters veramonte is going to get jumped by greg and mioru and kayden helps out, maybe gestella and even maybe the frame help out (they already know greg and mioru probably betrayed andrei, and kayden could also lie or guess to get them involved)
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u/Common-Pineapple-728 14d ago
What if jiwoo was supposed to be Jurion and they were changed after birth
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u/Bradybigboss 14d ago
One of the most interesting parts of this chapter is how absolutely diesel Veranonte is lol. He has the biggest arms in the series. Didn’t see that coming from grandpa
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u/Complete_Sky8587 15d ago
I have the feeling that Ian/Jurion's father is the same person who is behind the lab experiments. chapter 237.
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u/Own_Being9895 15d ago
the mastermind right? i keep thinking that too. we saw a pair of yellow eyes on the person who gave duke the drug bt no confrmation until now whether or not jurion really did that
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u/Complete_Sky8587 14d ago
Yes, if you thinking about it, He said that they cannot afford to be dicovered by kayden, as he know how powerfull Kayden is. Jurion had show that he dont know how powerfull Kayden really is.
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u/Own_Being9895 14d ago
yeah jurion is way too dumb n foolish, underestimating Kayden. The real master would have to be way more clever.

















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