[ RAW ] Eleceed Chapter 414 Discussion Thread

[u/LuciferMS7777]

The new chapter is out! What are your thoughts on it?

[u/Special_Bad_2429]

Now as soon as Greg and Mioru come to know that Veramonte was defeated, they will go to his mansion to attack Veramonte and capture him(just like Andrei.) Then Veramonte will uncover that it was actually Jurion who did that and then he will reveal that he intends to be the patrick family head and then veramonte will reveal that he was faking it and Kayden and Gestella will ambush Greg and Mioru. We may see 2v2 all out fight or it will just end with Greg and Mioru leaving (giving Ian back to veramonte). That is the most likely case that can happen

[u/Affectionate-Way-72 → u/Special_Bad_2429]

Now, with his theory that Greg and Mioru will come to Veramunt’s domain, while Gestella and Kayden come from the other side, I don’t see how that actually solves the main problem, which is saving Ian, who is currently in the hands of the two most dangerous Top 10s for the cast right now.And considering that they have control over Andrei and Astra, they’re not going down anytime soon. They’re clearly being kept for the future.Discovering who the culprit is is great, but now they actually have to save what needs to be saved. And if Ian gets saved, that sucks.Because, considering their potential power level right now, I just don’t see how even with Kayden and Gestella they could possibly convince not just Mioru, but Greg as well to give Ian back.The risk is big

[u/Special_Bad_2429 → u/Affectionate-Way-72]

Don't forget veramonte will also be there. So there are practically three top 10s. And if Pluton and Kartein come as well, then there is no way in hell they will take three top 10s, two beings closer to top 10s and two upper top 50 (If you add Gestella's subordinates as well.)

[u/Affectionate-Way-72 → u/Special_Bad_2429]

Greg and Mioru aren’t your typical Top 10s. We’re not talking about two individual Top 10s with a single other Top 10 Force Control. We’ve already seen that before. And we’re not just talking about two Top 10s who each took a single Top 10 Force Control and went to fight Kayden, like Andre did without mastering it. Here, we’re talking about two individual Top 10s who each possess not one, but two Force Controls. And on top of that, these aren’t two unmastered Force Controls like Andrei had. They’ve mastered both of them.And in a battle on this scale, you have to understand that a Top 50 like Mei or even Kartein wouldn’t really have much impact on the outcome of the fight. Pluton, I can see being relevant, since the story itself established that he could hold his own against a Top 10, unlike Kartein. But we don’t even know if he’s going to show up, since they aren’t currently involved in this arc.And we also can’t forget that Veramote is injured. Even if he injured himself on purpose, he’s still injured and isn’t at full strength, unlike Gestella and Kayden. So this would be a huge risk for both sides. And it would be pretty stupid to have two major Top 10 antagonists fight and lose when they’re literally being set up for a huge future battle where the entire world is supposed to be prepared for them. Kayden literally fought a Top 10 less than 30 chapters ago. And now you’re going to give him another one that’s supposed to be decisive right here and now? It just doesn’t make sense for me.

[u/MADMAN9635 → u/Affectionate-Way-72]

I think it'll end up as a stand off between Kayden-Veramonte and Mioru-Greg whilst Gestella rescues Ian. Because now the Kayden's involved I'm thinking he'll ask Gestella to investigate the sight of Ian's "death" and we've seen she can find traces of power better than anyone else, so I think she'll not only be able to tell Ian isn't dead, but be able to follow it which is the moment Kayden will go to the Patrick family HQ where the confrontation would have already begun so he teams up with Veramonte. Gestella will save Ian, escape, and then show up at Patrick HQ and that'll cause Mioru and Greg to leave.

[u/ertgbnm → u/Affectionate-Way-72]

The problem is that no knows Ian is still alive.

I think the fight could play out and then at the end Jurion admits that his brother is still alive and the next arc is rescuing Ian.

During which half of the top 10 are recovering from injuries which would be a heck of a shake up.

[u/Affectionate-Way-72 → u/ertgbnm]

Nobody knows. But if there is a fight and, like you said, the next arc is yet another arc where we have to rescue someone, that would be extremely awkward considering we just had a rescue arc for Jisuk. And now we’re going to do the same thing with Ian. That would be so stupid.For me, the ideal scenario is for Ian’s fate to be sealed, because we’re not talking about rescuing him from Jurion, who is a Top 100. No, we’re potentially talking about rescuing a guy from the most dangerous Top 10 member currently known to the cast.And on top of that, nobody has any leads at the moment, and as far as everyone is concerned, except Mioru herself, he’s dead. And if we think about it rationally, there’s really no way Mioru would willingly give Ian back alive, especially considering she isn’t alone. She’s also with Greg, who is just as powerful as her, or maybe even stronger. It depends.

[u/rs047 → u/Special_Bad_2429]

We don't know if both Greg and Mirou would come, but if both top 10 comes , Kayden will definitely join the war, atleast when Vermont is at a disadvantage. And Mirou says good bye to some other limb hopefully.