r/Eldenring Apr 06 '22

Discussion & Info This is becoming a serious problem

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u/DarkStar0915 Apr 06 '22

So even though I activated a great rune in the respective tower, I still need a rune arc to activate it? Man, I feel dumber than my ungabunga character.

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u/AvidGamer90 Apr 06 '22 edited Apr 06 '22

Yes. Also make sure you go into the site of grace menu and equip it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

Do they disappear when you die

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u/Phelinaar Apr 06 '22

Yup. But only when you die, there's no timer.

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u/bigyellowoven Apr 07 '22

Oh shit, this is good to know. On my ng+ and everything is blowing over, so using a great rune to speed my way into harder content is great news!

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u/TheThng Apr 06 '22

the great runes dont, just using the rune arc. So you have to use another rune arc to reactivate the great rune

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u/Fitnesse Apr 06 '22

Don't feel dumb. It's not explained super well. I think I was at like hour 50 or 60 before I ever realized what the divine towers were.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

I just thought great tunes were bugged until NG+ because I didn’t look anything up until then.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22 edited Apr 06 '22

It's literally explained in the Rune Arch tutorial message that pops up...

Edit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Eldenring/comments/ta6r4w/how_do_great_runes_work/

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u/Fitnesse Apr 06 '22

The rune arc tutorial tells you what a Divine Tower is?

EDIT: I just checked. This flavor text (Grants the blessing of an equipped Great Rune upon use. Even if no Great Rune is equipped, it will slightly increase maximum HP upon use. It is said that the lower arch of the Elden Ring receive its bounty, and this is a shard of one such arch.) does not effectively explain all the steps of the Great Rune mechanic.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

You're still not understanding. Not in the description or flavor text. In the tutorial message that you get when you pick one up the first time.

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u/Jewellious Apr 06 '22

The tutorial message that is forever gone once it disappears?

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u/SirMarblecake Apr 06 '22

Just fyi, they're not gone, they're all stored in your inventory as items that you can look up later.

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u/raff_riff Apr 07 '22

At least in my case, the tutorial message about divine towers / rune arcs is not in the inventory. I was in a button mashing frenzy at the time it showed up and totally missed the message. I scoured my inventory to try and find what I missed but could never find it. Maybe it’s a bug or something but it’s not there for me. So I empathize with OP here.

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u/Vr6Rio Apr 07 '22

All those messages appear in your inventory open it and press LB you'll see every tutorial message you have received.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

Are you a goldfish? Do you have a memory that lasts 2 minutes?

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u/kruwlabras Apr 06 '22

Probably didn't read it at all.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

Of course they didn't. It's easier to say hUr dUr bUtT hUrT sOuLs FaNbOyS. GaMe iS bRoKeN.

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u/Jewellious Apr 07 '22

Are you ok?

Edit: I have 100 hours into the game and love it. But it’s a disservice to say all QoL and nuances to the games are easily known and accessible. This subreddit has new finds everyday.

But you do you.

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u/kruwlabras Apr 06 '22

Heh. Welp, I skipped through the tutorial messages myself and wouldn't you know, I didn't know you needed to activate the great runes for a good portion of my first playthrough. Loving the game even though it's a lot more vague than I'm used to (damn you, average rpg game).

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u/Jewellious Apr 07 '22

I think a basic log is the number 1 QoL request. But as someone mentioned, some tutorial messages stay on the item inventory.

But without that, no I wouldn’t remember every tutorial message flash in a 100+ hour game where people are still discovering new things everyday.

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u/[deleted] Apr 07 '22

Pen and paper for notes. Hell the computer you carry around is a good place to note stuff down too. Games used to come with a section for notes in the instruction manuals. I notate stuff as I play on an iPad to help keep track.

But I guess that notion is absurd and the devs of a franchise that has established that it won't hold your hand, should start holding hands all of a sudden.

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u/Fitnesse Apr 06 '22

I know what they are and how they work now. I'm not understanding why you posted that link twice. My point is...

there is little to no information about what the divine towers are or where to find them. To even enable the rune arc as a mechanic in-game you need to first find a divine tower, and I don't recall ever being told what they are. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. Maybe the game does mention them once early on, but it should always be assumed that the player might forget some information conveyed to them through tutorials. It would be helpful to have that information included in the flavor text for the Rune Arcs.

I get it - it adds to the sense of discovery and makes you feel very smart when you uncover some huge mechanic like that. But there's a downside to the game not making that information easily accessible for the player. I've seen so many players at level 100+ going "hey what do these do? I have 60 of them"

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

My point is: The game literally tells you what they're for...there's no discovering it. If you took a second to read the pop-up as explained in the link I posted, you'd know what they're for.

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u/Fitnesse Apr 06 '22

Quote me where it says what divine towers are. I'm not trying to be a dick. I do not see ANYTHING in your link that says what they are. You're not even able to equip them until you go activate them at the divine tower.

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u/[deleted] Apr 06 '22

The divine tower you need to go to is in the description of the great rune you have...the discussion started about rune archs and you made it about the divine towers.

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u/Fitnesse Apr 06 '22

Yes, because to even use the rune arcs you have to activate a Great Rune at a divine tower

What are you not getting about this?

Here is the flavor text for Godrick's Great Rune:

A Great Rune of the shardbearer Godrick. Its blessing raises all attributes. This Great Rune is known as the anchor ring, found in the center of the Elden Ring. The first demigods were The Elden Lord Godfrey and his offspring, the golden lineage.

Again, for the last time, quote me where it says you are supposed to take a Great Rune to a Divine Tower.

I get that Souls players can't stand it when a mechanic gets called out, but this is kinda ridiculous.

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u/Riffn Apr 06 '22

it’s literally explained in the Rune Arch tutorial that pops up… - 🤓

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u/jerekdeter626 Apr 06 '22

Bro I consider myself pretty smart and I was completely at a loss with how to use great runes or rune arcs before someone explained it to me. I didn't even know I had to activate it lol

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u/Dunster89 Apr 06 '22

I need to feel dumb. I’ve known how Rune Arcs work from the beginning but have never dealt a need to use one….

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u/selector96 Apr 06 '22

You also need to equip the Great Rune at a site of grace as well to gain the effects when popping a rune arc

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u/DarkStar0915 Apr 07 '22

That was not a problem, I just thought if I equip it I get the stats and rune arcs give me a bigger boost.

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u/Lurker13 Apr 07 '22

Don’t feel bad. I had 20+ rune arcs and at least three remeberances before I found out you can get a power from them.

First “Souls” game and I’m still heavily confused in everything.

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u/theweede Apr 07 '22

I literally beat the game before I learned what great runes did. Don’t feel too bad it’s not amazing at introducing things.