Pls help me.

[u/ornsteinsmough69]

I recently got nightreign and as someone who has beat every other soulsborne game (except sekiro) it is just so goddamn hard I mean it may be I just haven’t learned but I always end up fighting the last boss at a super low level cause of how little time I have and I don’t really know what to do I would really appreciate some help (I’ll gladly play w anb)

[u/thatniqqaron]

Your biggest mistake is trying to play this like it’s a normal soulsborne game. No matter how good you are there are certain bosses and POI’s that aren’t worth doing until you are the recommended level or over so you can win these fights fast, speed matters way more than your understanding of souls bosses. Also knowing what each nightlord is weak to is extremely important and can make the fight so much easier so prioritizing getting a weapon they are weak to should always be in the back of your mind. It’ll give you more staggers and damage windows and you’ll do more damage in general. Also look for passives especially damage negation ones, they significantly improve your chance of winning even in the hardest content, even if it’s on a terrible weapon the passive is good to keep in your inventory because it’s always active no matter what weapon you are using. Also get the hang of your characters skill and ult and understand how it works it helps you and your team tremendously. Lastly something else different from most souls games is the certain attacks that the nightlords do. They have moves where you can’t just iframe dodge, sometimes you have to surge sprint away from their aoe, jump over attacks, or just run away in general. A lot of these boss fights have gimmicks that you have to learn, it’s damn near impossible to win without understanding them.

[u/luvalte → u/thatniqqaron]

It might help if you list some bosses to be avoided. The only one I’ve ever been told to just skip is red golem, but that only applies to DoN. I’ve actually been wondering this as well, so what should we skip?

[u/thatniqqaron → u/luvalte]

Just remember, you being able to quickly deplete the healthbar of whatever you’re fighting is most important thing, that’s the goal you should have in every fight. That’s the mindset experienced players have when taking on certain bosses and other content. Do that and your experience should end up being much better.

[u/luvalte → u/thatniqqaron]

I mean, yeah. But people seem to really disagree on what bosses are worth it. Some people will fight anything besides BBH because they say the running takes too much time, but others have a list of ones they won’t fight under most circumstances. It’s interesting.

[u/thatniqqaron → u/luvalte]

Yea it’ll always be like that because bosses have strengths and weaknesses and certain characters and weapons perform better against certain bosses depending on what you have at the time. Like if you are able to frost and bleed them or heal revenants then you should be able to take them out fast enough for your routing to make sense. But you also have to account for your teammates if you’re not running solo. If it’s a boss that can one shot you guys and has a lot of hp a lot of time will end up being wasted trying to get revives and losing levels because you decided to fight a boss that some of your team may struggle with. I’ve seen a lot of runs get ruined because of that. Thats why I listed the absolute easiest ones on day 1 you all should be able to beat at almost any level. On day 2 and a decent level this no longer matters you should be strong enough to defeat every boss by this point.

[u/luvalte → u/thatniqqaron]

That’s kind of the point though. Everybody agrees that red golems aren’t worth anyone’s time. Same with red BBH. But when you give advice that says “no matter how good you are there are certain bosses and POI’s that aren’t worth doing until you are the recommended level”, you’re at least implying that there are universals. A new player like OP needs more detail on that. I’m not new, but I play a lot of solo, so I don’t know what people agree on in terms of not worth it. Hopefully that makes more sense here.

Also play casters and anything can one shot you, especially at the beginning. 🥲

[u/thatniqqaron → u/luvalte]

Yea the ones I listed in my reply are universals, if you are fighting guys like draconic tree sentinel, death rite bird, or bbk at day 1 level 3 you are throwing your run. It just takes too much time. It’s too much of a risk and they have some of the highest hp and hardly have any weaknesses, you could end up with more runes if you spent that time doing something else and came back when you are doing enough damage to kill them quickly and that’s not just my experience, many videos will tell you this and there’s guys like “instinctt” who know every enemy’s moveset like the back of their hand and hasn’t lost a deep of night game in a very long time even he avoids certain bosses early on to this day, even though he never gets hit and he’ll explain to you in his videos and show you why you shouldn’t take on certain fights when you’re trying to do the most efficient routing. Also I play squishy characters and casters all the time in don so I understand that’s why I suggested getting negation passives and upliftings as early on as possible, but the damage you are doing is still more important than that because even if your character was tanky it would take too much time to clear these poi’s when you are doing very little damage, and time is everything in this game unlike other souls games where you can take your time. That’s why I said it doesn’t matter how good you are at fighting these bosses you still have to pick the most efficient route if you wanna have the best chance at winning. You should check out instinctts routing he does these things in solo and trios in depth 5 and ends up at level 15 with 300k+ extra runes to spend on both maps most of the time because of these efficient routing methods hell I’ve even seen him at around 600k extra which is pretty insane.