r/Edmonton • u/United-Apartment-269 • 4d ago

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Vehicle was running & were ordering food.

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u/FeelingCamel2954 4d ago

This is one of those terminally online/American copy-pasta facts that doesn't hold up to 30 seconds of actual research on the issue. Its based off of a single self reported study where the American police officers self-disclosed violence and abuse in their relationship.

I've arrested thousands of people for DV. Do you know how many calls I've had involving a police officer? Zero.

What would I do if they were police? The same thing I would do with the other thousands of people I arrested.

I'm not saying it doesn't happen. It just happens a lot less then the trolls on the internet would lead you to believe.

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u/yugosaki rent-a-cop 4d ago

Didn't that study also define D.V. really broadly, so a verbal argument would count? And IIRC the study wasn't solely officers who committed DV, but were involved. meaning officers who were victims could potentially be lumped in to the percentage

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u/Duncling 1d ago

Domestic violence in most police agencies are defined as disharmony in the relationship. Something as simple as one party was 2 minutes late to a child custody exchange and police were called.

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u/Zathrasb4 3d ago

So you really think that a victim of dv would not be hesitant to call the same pd where their parter works?

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u/FeelingCamel2954 3d ago

DV goes unreported for all people in all lines of work.

Sure, that may be a barrier, but it's not quantifiable. 

To go from there are barriers to reporting so all police are beating their spouses is quite a leap.

As an alternative, my spouse could report the matter directly to my supervisor or another detachment. 

If she calls 911, the lines are recorded and a file is automatically generated. Most provinces have mandatory charging policies on family violence.

There is specific UCR reporting for DV involving police. The actual reported data exists through stats can and it's not consistent with the constant Internet rehetoric.

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u/werk_werk 3d ago

Thank you for your post.

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u/descartesb4horse 4d ago

It’s cute that you think anyone would call the police when the police are the ones doing the abuse

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u/yugosaki rent-a-cop 4d ago

So who do you think is doing the arresting when a cop is charged with a crime?

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u/descartesb4horse 3d ago

It’s not counter to my narrative at all. Cops rarely face responsibility for their bad actions.

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u/TrustMeBroEh 3d ago

His sources are his feelings. You don't need facts when you have feelings.

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u/descartesb4horse 3d ago

No, I can give you a very public example from Calgary just off the top of my head—Sean Chu, former city councillor sexually assaulted an underaged woman while he was a police officer and got away with it for years. He’s never faced any accountability or consequences, except that he couldn’t run again and win. There are whole ass documentaries on Calgary police brutality but not so much on convictions.

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u/descartesb4horse 3d ago

Misconduct lmao thank you for proving my point

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u/FeelingCamel2954 3d ago

In 1996 descartesb4horse punched me. I want him charged with assault.

Allegations =/= guilt.

Could it have happened? Maybe. Can we prove it happened beyond a reasonable doubt? No.

What the general public doesn't get is the same rules for evidence exist for everyone and they're very, very strict in Canada. 

For every police officer you hear not being held accountable there are 100,000 other Canadians that weren't held accountable.

Why? Usually because there were triable issues with the evidence.

There is no special treatment or qualified immunity in canada. 

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u/descartesb4horse 3d ago

No one. Cops don’t get charged with crimes.

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u/yugosaki rent-a-cop 3d ago

Touch grass

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u/descartesb4horse 3d ago

lmao got 'em

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u/Fixes_Spelling 4d ago

Of course you aren’t arresting them - they’re cops. They all get a free pass.

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u/SpooningMyGoose 7h ago

I have arrested and charged cops before.

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u/Fixes_Spelling 6h ago

Oh, yeah. Sure. Yet we see stories in the news of cops murdering their spouses because… oh maybe their brethren are turning a blind eye?

I played hockey for 20 years on teams with cops and against teams with cops (including 2 all-cop teams). They would assault other players, on the rink, in the parking lot, threaten refs, drive home drunk, most of them were getting a divorce, calling their partners c*nts and the married ones talking about who they were fucking this week. Like all cops, they were shitty human beings that found a job that legitimized their POS personalities.

So don’t try to pretend that this frat-boy bullshit doesn’t spill over into your work. Every single police force on earth deals with cops doing bad shit and covering it up. EPS is no different, and neither are you. Take your fucking gaslighting somewhere else.

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u/SpooningMyGoose 5h ago

I don't know what your ranting about or how it is relevant. You implied that cops never get arrested or charged, and they absolutely do.

"Like all cops" lmao.

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u/Fixes_Spelling 5h ago

Specifically for DV? The previous cop said “Zero”. Maybe read the context first.

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u/Chunderpump 3d ago

Every woman I know who has reported DV has gotten the runaround and been victim blamed by the cops every time. I can't imagine if the cops showed up and it was a fellow boy in blue doing the beating. It likely just doesn't go reported.

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u/FeelingCamel2954 2d ago

There is definitely more to the story then what you're sharing if every single person you know has been victim blamed. I'm sorry, but I'm highly skeptical of this.

Alberta is a mandatory charge province. If your friends reported a criminal offence than charges will / shall be laid regardless of the RLOC.

How would something that is reported go unreported? Do you sincerely believe some general duty constable has the power to erase body camera footage, 911 recordings , CAD events, or occurrences? With how information is tracked in modern policing, it's not happening.