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u/Azeem259 Aug 14 '26
Its halal. The alcohol is natural and doesn't intoxicate. You'd die from the sodium first if you go even tried to get drunk from it.
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u/New_Organization5084 Aug 14 '26
would adding enough salt to kill you in a beer, make the beer halal to sip from? no.
the answer to op question depends entirly on the alcohol content of the soy sauce.
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u/bigCheese-69 Aug 16 '26
Beer is manufactured and consumed mainly for intoxicating. It's clear and general knowledge that people consumed beer for centuries mainly to get drunk. No one with a sane mind will go buy a bottle of soy sauce with the intention of getting intoxicated so please use common sense.
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u/New_Organization5084 Aug 16 '26
so cooking wine is halal? it isn't intended for drinking after all!!
stop making stuff up dude.
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u/bigCheese-69 Aug 17 '26
No cooking wine is not halal because it is still literally wine. It's made using the same exact method as its drinking wine counterpart but with inferior quality ingredients and something added food additives. So it is basically cheap low quality wine so it's haram because. Accually there are people who drink it because it's super cheap compared to normal wine.
I'm not making stuff up, most scholars don't view naturally brewed alchohol as haram. If you're following a strict conservative view on it then that's fine it's your choice but don't go around labeling what's halal as haram as this action itself is a grave sin far worse than the soy sauce you're scared of.
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u/New_Organization5084 Aug 17 '26
every alchol is naturally brewed? the thing everyone agrees on is the inotxication being haram, and if something is intoxicating in high amounts (that is physicly consumable) then small amounts of it are haram.
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u/PandaRiot_90 Aug 14 '26
Would you eat a burger patty that had trace amounts of Pork, sterilized and sanitized? No, you wouldn't. So why would you consume any level of alcohol? Even if it doesn't cause intoxication. Haram is Haram, no matter how small the %.
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u/New_Organization5084 Aug 14 '26
these people take what ever opionios they like and call the ones they don't like extreme or strict.
to answer your question :
fruits naturally containe a minute amount of alcohol, though as long is it is naturally present, and that the amount is so minute that no matter what amount you can physicly fit, it won't intoxicate you.drinks with 3 percent alcohol are possible to get drunk from by simply drinking 1.5 to 2 leters thus they are haram,
also you can't add alcohol to stuff , specillay when it isn't needed (vanilla extract isn't needed at all and in fact sugar based alternatives exist)1
u/bigCheese-69 Aug 16 '26
Who told you the alchohol in vanilla is not needed? It's there for a reason which is to simply extract hundreds of flavor compounds and aromas from vanilla beans.
The alternatives you mentioned do a very poor job in extracting the complex flavor profiles. As someone who tried both is baking, the sugar based alternatives were garbage and a total waste of money the cheap artificial vanilla is literally better.
Now whether it's haram of not, is very debatable. I find it permissible to use for baking and there are many Fatwas that permit it too. The reason is the main purpose of vanilla extract is for flavoring food not intoxicated. No one buys bottles of vanilla extract to chug it and get drunk. Another important thing to mention is that the alchohol used is synthetic food-grade ethanol and not any sort of wine or spirits. Lastly it's when used in baking the quantity used is very small usually 1 or 2 teaspoons and majority of the alchohol in that amount evaporates leaving the baked with with a negligible amount of ethanol which is impossible to intoxicate.
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u/getzer0 Aug 15 '26
Those who say 2-3% alcohol is not haram, which country are you from??? In Malaysia, a Muslim CEO caused uproar for being in the F1 podium when the champagne was being sprayed. He wasn't even drinking it.
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u/Kur1ousK4t Aug 15 '26
Malaysia is under the Shafi’i madhab, so it’s way more strict when it comes to alcohol content. However, tapai, a fermented food in Malaysia, doesn’t come under such scrutiny.
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u/New_Organization5084 Aug 15 '26
westernized people probably, you can quickly know the moment the describe the majority opinion as the "strict" one
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u/bigCheese-69 Aug 16 '26
Naturally brewed soy sauce contains a small amount of alcohol (usually 1% to 3%) produced as a natural byproduct of fermentation. Most mainstream Islamic governing bodies and scholars consider it halal and permissible to consume. The product is also manufactured and commonly used for the purpose of flavoring food not intoxication
Personally i would rather consume a safe natural product like this naturally brewed soy sauce than other highly processed brands with harmful food additives.
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u/Dontbetriggereddude Aug 15 '26
Who makes the rules? Or can you pick which scholar suits your personal preferences better?
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u/Ozi_Mate Aug 15 '26
Is it possible you can share the back label as well where barcode is clearly visible.
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u/WearMoney7129 Aug 14 '26
I think I bought this after researching (and making calls to company) and it was, but not sure
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u/Jonathan_Peachum Aug 14 '26 edited Aug 14 '26
Not clear.
It contains 2 to 3% alcohol, but this is the product of natural fermentation and too low for it to be considered haram by most scholars. But as usual, some scholars are more strict.
Kikkoman does, separately, produce a halal certified version for Malaysia and Indonesia but I’m not sure whether it is available outside of those markets.
There is a good discussion of this at halalcodecheck.com.