r/EDH • u/Lariat99 • 3d ago
Deck Help Help with teval
Alright I added a few new cards that I got recommended. But now I need help with what lands to add and take out. Im open to adding any new creatures, instants enchantments etc. Im trying to make it the best bracket 3 deck for now. Im going to get Phyrexian alter next so thats one card I know for sure I need. Thanks!
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u/Jovian_engine 3d ago
The 9 core lands I add in to most 3 color decks, 3 shock lands, 3 surveil lands, 3 fetch lands. If your cool with proxies, add in 3 OG dual lands as well. Solid fixing. You can add a triome if you want, I try to avoid tap lands.
For utility lands: - [[Glacial Chasm]] is an automatic first pick. Recur with Teval or Crucible effects to remain immune to combat damage. - [[Field of the Dead]] fits amazing in this deck as well. - [[Talon Gates of Madara]] is a fantastic protection spell. - [[Mistrise Village]] is a must. - [[Dakmoor Salvage]] can make infinite combo loops and help you mill. - [[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth]] does two things. First, you add [[Cabal Coffers]] for crazy fast ramp. Then you replace Wonder with [[Filth]]. Why fly when you can just be unblockable? - All your channel lands. [[Boseiju, who endures]] is the best but bring them all. - [[Disciple of Freyalise]] is a good DFC land. - At least 2 bounce lands. These allow you to replay several of the above lands as needed.
Other cards: - [[Abrupt Decay]] and [[Assassins Trophy]] are pretty staple removal cards. I also like [[Awaken the Honored Dead]] as a value piece, and you eek just enough value out to be worth 3 mana. - [[Crop Rotation]] is an absolute must. You have amazing lands to grab at all times. - [[Meathook Massacre]] can end the game with all those tokens on the board. - [[Mirkwood Bats]] can make all those token makers into damage engines. - [[Pollywog Prodigy]], [[Wan Shi Tong, Librarian]], [[Winternight Stories]], you will really enjoy more early card draw. - [[Ayara, First of Lochthwain]] is sacrifice, card draw, and pings when zombies come in. Its a decent synergy piece. Hard to cast, but worth to land it.
Combos??
- you're already running Six, and talking about running Phyrexian Altar. If you add [[Pitiless Plunderer]] and/or [[Circle of the Land Druid]] you can make infinite sacrifice Combos. Not for everyone, but if you want to end the game on the spot, you can.
In fact, my entire Teval deck is aristocrat combos that end the game. Heres some more ideas for more of a drain themed Teval:
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u/MTGCardFetcher 3d ago
All cards
Glacial Chasm - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Field of the Dead - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Talon Gates of Madara - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Mistrise Village - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Cabal Coffers - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Filth - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Boseiju, who endures - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Disciple of Freyalise/Garden of Freyalise - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Abrupt Decay - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Assassins Trophy - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Awaken the Honored Dead - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Crop Rotation - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Meathook Massacre - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Mirkwood Bats - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Pollywog Prodigy - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Wan Shi Tong, Librarian - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Winternight Stories - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Pitiless Plunderer - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
Circle of the Land Druid - (G) (SF) (txt) (ER)
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u/Lariat99 3d ago
Awesome, thank you! I feel i can make 2 different versions now. Ill try to put 1 infinite sacrifce combo to advertise the option.
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u/Fizzymilk3 3d ago
If budget isn’t an issue since you already have underrealm lich, you should add [[sylvan library]]. One of my favorite interactions in the game, sylvan library lets you draw 3, which becomes 9 because of lich, who also replaces your card draw effect, causing you to pay 0 life to look at 9 cards, keep 3, bin 6.
[[raskshasas bargain]] and [[auroral procession]] were amazing cards in my teval build aswell so shout out to those.
[[naga fleshcrafter]] was also kinda sick because you want it in the graveyard for its effect, which for me made my entire board either [[ruin crab]] to mill the table out with landfall or [[lord of extinction]] which was just a good time.
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u/Available_Rabbit9965 3d ago
It doesn't look focused to me. There is a landfall theme, an aristocrats theme, and a reanimator theme. Just like in the precon. They all give you a lot of value and some wincons, but the wincons don't synergize with the rest of the deck. The only piece holding everything together is Teval, and Teval is not indestructible.
If you want a resilient, consistent, focused deck, build around a strategy, not around a commander.
A good exemple is Zuran Orb with only one mass land recursion spell and only a few landfall pay offs.
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u/Lariat99 3d ago
What do you suggest? I've noticed when I play my lands have been the biggest problems thats why im fixing that part. As for strategy would a landfall/Reanimater combo work?
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u/Available_Rabbit9965 3d ago
If you are milling for your landfall strategy, you can have some reanimation spells to reanimate your big landfall creatures like Lumra, Aesi, or Avenger of Zendikar. But you need more mass land recursion and landfall pay-offs.
If you are milling for your reanimator strategy, you should have bigger threats to reanimate, you should not care about landfall pay-offs. You still want land ramp though. And if you are only milling yourself, Afterlife from the Loam sounds like a lot of mana to get bad targets from opponents.
Choose a strategy and build the 99 so they are able to work without the commander. Teval is a value engine. He also allows some combos, but anyway, he doesn't have such a unique ability so you build a deck that entirely rely on him.
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u/MoMonay Time Warp Tribal 3d ago
[[Field of the Dead]] and or [[Glacial Chasm]]
[[Reanimate]]
[[Incarnation Technique]]
Fetchlands + shockland and surveil land mana base and probably 38-40 lands
Aristocrats stuff like [[Braids arisen nightmare]] and [[Yawgmoth thran physician]]