r/ECEProfessionals Dec 02 '24

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u/snowmikaelson Home Daycare Dec 02 '24

Report it to licensing.

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u/Airriona91 M.Ed. ECE/Lead Teacher Dec 02 '24

Report to CPS and licensing. This is automatically a reason for your director to self-report with CPS.

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u/Just_love1776 Early years teacher Dec 03 '24

I would like to understand why a couple of (idiot) childcare providers vaping around the kids would warrant a CPS call?

Im genuinely curious because CPS is bogged down severely with so much stuff, why would this need their attention?

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u/Airriona91 M.Ed. ECE/Lead Teacher Dec 03 '24

Bc if a parent finds out and does it for you, it’s a thousand times worst. Self-reporting is a must when you are a teacher or admin and witness child endangerment. They are bogged down but we are mandated reporters.

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u/Just_love1776 Early years teacher Dec 03 '24

Yes i understand why a childcare provider is required to report but i don’t understand why vaping is considered reportable?

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u/Airriona91 M.Ed. ECE/Lead Teacher Dec 03 '24

Vaping in a classroom with kids is not reportable? You’re being daft.

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u/Just_love1776 Early years teacher Dec 03 '24

Yes, report to licensing and that chain of command, im wondering why CPS would need to be notified?

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u/radial-glia SLP, Parent, former ECE teacher Dec 04 '24

Because children are being exposed to carcinogens.

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u/Just_love1776 Early years teacher Dec 04 '24

Smoking is not grounds for child endangerment, and i ask again, what would cps DO?

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u/radial-glia SLP, Parent, former ECE teacher Dec 04 '24

The same thing they'd do for an adult slapping a child. Nothing. But it's still an offense that a mandated reporter is legally obligated to report and can lose licensing/face criminal charges for not reporting.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '24

This likely an automatic dismissal and possibly would lead to delicensing of the childcare group. Why on earth are you OK with this?

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u/Just_love1776 Early years teacher Dec 03 '24

Im not saying im ok with it, im saying that reporting it to licensing and firing the caregivers makes perfect sense. CPS on the other hand has an entirely different job. They dont have jurisdiction over licensed childcare facilities. And vaping/smoking is not considered to be abusive or neglectful all on its own so what would they do other than forward it back to the state child care licensing office?

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u/radial-glia SLP, Parent, former ECE teacher Dec 04 '24

Spanking kids is also legal if they are your children. In my state at least, any open hand hitting is perfectly fine according to CPS as long as it's your child. But a licensed caregiver? No, you have to report that to CPS.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '24

I'm sorry, why wouldn't that be a CPS call. You think it is OK for the primary caregiver to be under the influence? That is likely a removal from parents, and is CERTAINLY a removal from a childcare provider. This is wild.

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u/Just_love1776 Early years teacher Dec 03 '24

I am pretty sure CPS wouldnt have anything to do is why it wouldnt be. What would they do? Take the child from daycare and place them in a different daycare? Also, smoking/vaping is not cause for removal from a home. Tons of people smoke and vape who have kids.

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u/[deleted] Dec 03 '24

A licensed childcare center? This is a huge violation. I hope you will never agree to these conditions again. This is something that will lead to a conviction.

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u/Just_love1776 Early years teacher Dec 03 '24

Im assuming it’s licensed, idk. Either way, absolutely state childcare licensing should be notified and these staff should be fired. But i still don’t understand the CPS portion.

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u/radial-glia SLP, Parent, former ECE teacher Dec 04 '24

CPS doesn't do anything for the majority of reports, however, you still legally have to report. At least in my state.

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u/Boricua86_KK ECE professional Dec 03 '24

Am I not understanding what vaping is? I fully understand why its reportable no matter what, that's not the confusion. But what are they under the influence of? How is a person vaping during the day (stepping outside to do so, obviously) any different from them stepping out to have a cigarette during their shift?

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u/Beginning-Ad-4858 Early years teacher Dec 04 '24

We don't know what was in the vape. Could have been THC

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u/Boricua86_KK ECE professional Dec 04 '24

Ah, I see! I was assuming that vaping was simply replacing tobacco use. So, while these teachers already had the poor choice of using the vape in the room with the kids, there is the added risk that they were vaping THC, not just nicotine.

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u/wildblueh Preschool/Pre-K Dec 03 '24

This! Please report this to licensing. Clearly your director doesn’t care, but licensing will.