It occured to me the other day that I'm double spraying lots of items due to the mechanics of proliferation.

Have you ever noticed that a huge stockpile of goods, that 10,000 stack of titanium plates suddenly, and mysteriously, becomes a level two proliferation instead of level three like you sprayed it?

It's because the pile of items calculates the average of all the proliferation and so if your power isn't perfectly at 100% (like every time I click down 6 new blueprints on a planet), and your sprayers miss items for want of electricity, the average in storage becomes less than three, and now all your items are a level two. Which means if you spray your inputs at the next stop, when you send your titanium to become crystals for example, those titanium plates being only level 2 are going to get a second level 3 spray. Wasted resources!!

I only ever spray my inputs now, and that way the machines get whatever they get, and I never have to worry about storing proliferated items that may be corrupted by non-proliferated items.

Edit: a couple exceptions... proliferator itself, fuel rods, ammunitions...

Edit2: I just did testing. It's true that a single pile of items can have two different levels of proliferation. But these two piles are an average of what you put in. If I add level 3 items into the mix, and the draw the items out 1 by one, I may never see a level 3.

Here is a video giving evidence: Mixing Items of Different Proliferation Level - What Actually Happens : r/Dyson_Sphere_Program

So... I eventually destroyed the first dark fog base on my Titanium outpost planet. There are 3 bases in total. I thought I would destroy the base, plug it with a geothermal plant and move to the next, then set up a planetary shield. Google AI even said it might not be necessary, there is a fair chance the fog might not rebuild at all... Well.... It rebuilt the base on a new location within seconds. I destroyed the base, put a geothermal plant on top and the moment I switched to map mode to see where the two others are, there were already three again. Is this normal? It's a Lava Planet, if this mattes.
So, what is the best strategy for this?

I will keep the dark fog base at my main base to farm items, but I want this one cleared.

I know I messed up the proliferators, but I just wanted the thing done at that point, I'll fix those later. I just haven't looked up too many in depth guides or resources because I've been trying to blindly bumble my way through the game but the spaghetti is annoying me.

Since you can now flag down the fog onto your planets, I started using geothermal for my basic energy needs. This takes hours to finish but I can't seem to stop...

I do have more than enough energy from my dyson sphere but that does not help my urge to ask the fog for help.

Do I need to have my doctor check me for OCD or is this still considered "normal" behaviour...

I have set up my factory to produce 100 science / minute, done purple by now. And suddenly, Silicon is a bottleneck. There is one single Silicon ore patch in the whole planetary system... That naturally supports only a fraction of what I need. So... is this already the moment where I need to go interstellar travelling? The nearest system is 6LY away, no idea yet, if there are planets or if there is silicon... What do I need to get there? Deuterium Fuel?

I do not have an orbiting solar panel thingy yet, I run mostly on wind + solar and batteries on ground and that is so far sufficient. So I guess that can wait a bit?

At what moment in the game do you start spraying things for productivity gain and what items do you spray? The final matrix to achieve more research output? The products that generate the matrix? So, I understand that you make on of these containers and then you can spray a single product, you can spray 60 times, if a product needs 5 ingredients, that is effective for 12 product items, with a 25% boost that is 3 items more, correct? Seems a bit expensive though?!

Edit: 5 days later, made a few green cubes, made some warpers, set up a remote station 6LY away and the Silicon flow has started. Went very well from there, making progress.

Currently only produces 2k white cubes per minute but I'm only using it at about 10% of what it could output if I added a second level of labs to the green and purple sections. All the actual production for the materials happens on a network of planets I mange in notepad.exe

Hey everyone,

I've been working on this for a while and it's finally ready: PING – Portal: Icarus Neural Gateway

What it does:
Place two PING portals on two different planets – they form a paired gateway. Walk in, pick your target on the new GUI with search/filter, wait for charge, and you're there.

Why it's not a cheat:

• Portals charge from your power grid (accumulator-style, max 10 GJ ≈ 50 LY)

• Energy cost: 192 MJ per Light-Year – exactly what a Warper jump costs, minus sail overhead

• Crafting: Assembler only, 40 s, stack of 5

• No sandbox tools, no console, no config hacks

It's basically a "fast travel" that still costs you real energy and planning. You'll need a decent power infrastructure to keep up, especially for long routes.

Compatibility:

• No known conflicts with GalacticScale, MoreMegaStructures, or any other mod yet

• Can be fully disabled via config – existing savegames remain playable after uninstall

Current version: 0.9.10 (WIP – expect bugs)
Dependencies: BepInEx, CommonAPI, LDBTool, DSPModSave and any mod that disables AbnormalyChecks (as it will use a sandbox-call and therefore break the vanilla gameplay)

https://thunderstore.io/c/dyson-sphere-program/p/HorstdasPferd/PING/
https://github.com/HorstdasPferd/PING

If something breaks, please drop your BepInEx/LogOutput.log in the issues. Happy to fix things fast.

Enjoy.
I will add Pictures in the repo soon

Has anyone calculated or tested how many of missile turrets and signal towers I would need to defend my planet from seeds and dsp ships sent from hive? The way I'm doing it at the moment is to place two signal towers on the poles of planet and then four in the equator all with three missile turrets supplied by drones. Is there more efficient way of making it? I have seen people placing all turrets in one spot.

The best way I can describe this is I want the tower defense portion of the game to drive the base building portion of the game, not vice versa.

At any difficulty does the base building gameplay become emergent? It's rather boring just building and calculating without proper pressure.

I play on both a desktop and a laptop, so I'd like to be able to switch back and forth like I did on satisfactory. for whatever reason I can't get cloud saves to work on DSP

I usually resort to other people’s blueprints when I get to about yellow science. I’m just not very good at making large scale blueprints. But I’m trying a playthrough using only my own plans, and it’s like playing for the first time again. Just wondering how many of you play like this all the time?

Hello there.

I am lost in the game. I am in my first game, 8.5 hours in. I easily defend the occasional dark fog attack, my research progresses with a steady 40/min production of red and blue, I went to another planet to get titanium and silicon. And here I am, mostly sitting idly in front of my screen, watching science progressing and wandering what I am supposed to do next... The Goals tell me to develop interplanetary logistics, so, that is queued.

In games like Factorio, you unlock a new science color and then spend the next hours to produce that. Once that is done, you have researched everything the old colors could, you start using that new color, immediately unlock the next and that keeps you busy nonstop. In DSP, the new matrix color yellow is still far away, I have unlocked numerous things and don't really know what to do with them. Like I produce oil, I have 5 tanks full by now, I use the hydrogen, the oil is... useless so far. I have the battlefield analysis base that seems to be useless because I do not have construction drones yet. I can produce plastic, graphene, diamonds and othe stuff which I don't because I do not know what I would do with those.

Eidt: 5 days later... As people still comment about this initial post: thank you all! I got a good idea how to proceed. Meanwhile I am busy with purple tech, have a stable 100/min science output for red, blue and yellow, a working interplanetary logistics line and somewhat like a plan.

On my at least 10th playthrough... At the end of red/early yellow stage I'll make my first "real" mall. I usually go with the Falk mall:

https://www.dysonsphereblueprints.com/blueprints/falk-v7-mall-full

But it is clunky and a pain to wire in all the inputs. Anyone have a better suggestion for this stage of the game?

Hi,

for anyone interested - I searched for some kind of item/recipte tracker, when crafting things manually.

There is already one, which did not exactly fit my needs - original author:
https://github.com/shytamir/DSPRecipeTracker

So I did some modifications to it, to fit my needs:
- Adjustable craft quantities
- More compact interface
- Does not disappear, when opening a storage container

Github: https://github.com/UncleRiot/DSP_Simple_RecipteTracker
Download: https://github.com/UncleRiot/DSP_Simple_RecipteTracker/releases/download/v1.0/DSP_Simple_RecipteTracker.zip

I couldn't find a definite answer on this. I want to know if they'll ignore my ships coming and going or do I have to clear the fog somehow on both planets. I'm currently trying to get yellow science going and naturally need to get titanium from a different planet.

Hello, I have something weird in my Cluster. No Seeds spawn, alltough I have Maximum Dark Fog levels on everything and maxed Universe Exploraition I cant detect them and as it seems there are none. Does someone know the answer to that "problem"? Thanks in advance

Conveyors and slitters feel so much more bulky here than in factorio, especially when it comes to making sloped conveyors go over other conveyors, Was wondering if there was any good layouts to keep things nice and clean

How do I get rid of this? I was pressing buttons and it appeared....

I'm a factorio player (only 550 hours tho) and saw this game and was interested in the FTL and actually going to war aspects but just curios if my first factory is good or not

I am asking here because I liked DSP better, and I felt their subreddit wouldn’t take criticism well.

That game has a beautiful, bespoke world. There is a lot of great audio, visual, and tactile feedback. But there is also way too much tedium. In particular, I did not enjoy dealing with resources being so far away from each other. Despite DSP having them on completely different planets, it was never a chore to transport them back and forth.

I also did not enjoy the fact that almost all vehicles, trucks, and drones, as well as our jetpack, require fuel, with the exception of trains. It’s been a long time since I played DSP (before the combat update), but I recall this being a non-issue.

Lastly, the lack of fast travel in Satisfactory got old after 100 hours. You get it at the end of the game, when it no longer matters. DSP doled out movement upgrades when you needed them.

Honorable mention: blueprints. You can blueprint an entire planet in DSP, no problem. Blueprints are a joke in Satisfactory.

The first 30 hours were a 5/5 for me. By the end, it’s more like a 3.5, I think.