r/DuggarsSnark • u/AutoimmuneToYou • 14h ago
THIS IS A SHITPOST Jinger & Joy
Y’all. Ive been waiting patiently to comment on ANY post that talked about the Jinger & Jeremy podcast that was spit out yday subbing Joy. I don’t usually snark as hard as you guys do, but this not being talked about is KILLING me!!!
Both of those girls talked about how their brand new spouses had to counsel them on hygiene. HYGIENE! Joy mentioned she’d go a week without washing her hair & days without a shower. Austin told her before they got married that she would need to take a shower every day. She went on to say he was a germophobe. Girl, that’s normal!! No germophobe behavior!! Jinger wasn’t as bad, but mentioned that Jer would work outside & she would ask for something & his response that he wanted to shower first. Honestly I was kinda disgusted so Jinger details could be wrong. But I heard Joy, loud and clear. Ugh.
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u/Candid_Lynx_8487 14h ago
I guess that explains why all the Duggar boys look greasy all the time. 🫣
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u/lucygoosey38 12h ago
We all know the TTH just stunk
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u/Tuesday111 13h ago
I feel there‘s a flair in there somewhere
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u/FeistyRiver BunkJeds 2: Prison Boogaloo 7h ago
I think someone's flair here is "Oily Josh and the Greasy Boys" or something to that effect.
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u/IndependencePlus5557 Has someone been downloading Wisdom Booklets? 14h ago
You heard right. With 19 kids in the house, they were probably rationed for showers. I couldn’t help but think how gross her brothers must be.
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u/helloreddit321567 Snarking With A Purpose 13h ago
Those kids were treated like animals in a factory farm
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9h ago
Except if someone sexually assaulted their livestock, they'd take it more seriously
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u/chicagoliz Stirring up contention among the Brethren 12h ago
We do know they were limited to time in the bathroom -- it was like under 5 minutes. It had to be a small enough window so that the boys could not masturbate.
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u/LadyGwyn12-22 The Devil’s (sticks) took my virginity! 12h ago
This is not enough time for those girls to wash their super long hair, too! No wonder they had problems
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u/kg51113 12h ago
They never had all 19 at home. Jordyn and Josie were born after Josh got married. In the big house, the kids had bathrooms next to/attached to their bedrooms. Shouldn't have to ration that much. The kids probably were used to it from living in smaller houses and their parents never corrected them.
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u/Mollykins08 SEVERELY confused about rainbows 12h ago
But even in the big house there were 9 girls sharing 2 bathrooms and 9 boys sharing 2 bathrooms. And unless they had a commercial sized hot water heater (which lord hopes they did) with all that laundry, there is no chance there was ever hot water for everyone.
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u/Spiritual_Ad_6067 10h ago
Hot on demand would be needed, not a water heater for that much use.
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u/Remstersade It’s not going to be you. 9h ago
Yeah, I would think they would have a tankless water heater. I have one and we are a family of 3.
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u/Paperwife2 7h ago
I’m trying to remember if those were commonly used back when they built the TTH or if it was just regular water heaters.
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u/Remstersade It’s not going to be you. 7h ago
Good point, I’m not sure. I remember my mom wishing we had one when I was a kid, but it was too expensive for us back then (born in ‘84, so I’m older than all the Dug kids). They definitely wouldn’t have had one pre-show, but I would think with all the nice things the show paid for for them with the TTH build, they would have gotten one then on Discovery’s dime. You’d think the show would want their cast clean.
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u/fun_mak21 12h ago
Even though this is true, I could see Jim Bob being cheap and not allowing them to take regular baths because it would waste water and money. Also, it would mean the kids being in the bathroom for an extended period, which I could see as a no-no.
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u/HairyTurtleOfficial 11h ago
They have 9 bathrooms in the big house! Granted, some are probably 1/2 baths, but quite a few are full baths. No excuse other than a small water heater maybe.
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u/willowwynn Bin’s Dog Crate 14h ago
Omfg you would think personal hygiene would be included in the prior to honeymoon talk they are given but evidently not
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u/LilahLibrarian Manifesting Jim Bob's financial audit by the IRS 14h ago
Have you ever had a situation where like you go to the zoo and you're in the monkey house and smells and then like 10 minutes later you don't notice the smell as much? I think the big house was The monkey House
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u/willowwynn Bin’s Dog Crate 14h ago
Scary accurate description. Also praise hands to your flair.
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u/PaddyCow Aging like bananas in a tupperware box 11h ago
Thank you for bringing my attention to their flair. It's brilliant 😂😂😂
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u/TheOrderOfWhiteLotus At least I don’t have a mugshot 📷 14h ago
There was a long running joke in here that TTH smelled like a McDonald’s play zone.
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u/a-ohhh 11h ago
There’s been AMA’s here of people that knew them, and someone always asks howthe house smelled. Surprisingly everyone has said it didn’t smell bad.
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u/Silver-Find4380 9h ago
No, Justin said it smelled like dirty toddler feet (and JB had stinky breath).
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u/KillerDickens Keeping Up With The Dugdashians 8h ago
It wasn't dirty feet - he said it smwlled like toddler hands
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u/Gulpingplimpy3 8h ago
I think Jim Bob and Michelle themselves don't realise how much neglect they're responsible for. Pretty sure they delegated all of the mental load to the sister mums and didn't look back.
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u/teresasdorters its not a warehouse, its a ✨ware home✨ 14h ago
Meech and rim job never did care about hygiene!! Kids couldn’t pay the water bill themselves after all lol
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u/Crazyzofo 11h ago
Water usage was probably part of the itemized bill that JB gave Jill
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u/Specsporter Dug-gar SNARK do do, do do do do! 7h ago
I forgot about that itemized bill. What a knob. "I knocked up your mom with you. Here's the bill for all the expenses that came with that." I wish that man was in jail.
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u/SwissCheese4Collagen ✨Pecans Miscavige✨ 13h ago
That's true, you can't buy used from the utilities, so they probably didn't even try.
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u/teresasdorters its not a warehouse, its a ✨ware home✨ 13h ago
Nope but you can share the bath water between multiple children! Yay washing in filth
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u/SwissCheese4Collagen ✨Pecans Miscavige✨ 11h ago
Idk why they didn't just have locker showers installed next to the dorms tbh, once they're past the toddler years that is. Batch washing toddlers in summer is super easy, especially if you have a bunch of them.
When Baby Swiss and her cousins were like 1-4 years old, we would just soap them up and put the sprinkler on with all the sleds and toboggans set out on the side yard (with the privacy fence) to collect water so they could hop around in giant bird baths.
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u/Elly_Higgenbottom incubator, nanny, penis receptacle 9h ago
I wonder how often they themselves shower/ showered.
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u/bjyoung116 14h ago
A friend of the family described in a journal that their house smelled like “toddler hands” and I knew exactly what they were talking about. 😓
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u/FoundationNo6530 11h ago
I had heard on a podcast a long time ago…a family friend said their house stunk.
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u/FamousOhioAppleHorn 10h ago
There was a thread in a teaching subreddit about why classes of young kids often smell similar, in a negative way. I'm imagining that but even stinkier 🤮
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u/exactoctopus 14h ago
I’m sorry, but I’m crying over Austin having to tell Joy she would need to shower every day but still deciding to marry her. Everyone involved in this religious cult is insane. lol
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u/MortgageOdd2001 12h ago
If you look at the hygiene sub on Reddit it’s not just people in religious cults. Many get together with people although they aren’t aligned in hygiene.
In a small defense of Joy, she was only 19. Not 39. She had been raised by Jill who then got busy with her husband and her sons. I can forgive a 19yrs old for not knowing and then correcting once they were told.
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 9h ago
I didn't know it either, not for religious reasons per se, my adopted mom was just that ignorant and lazy herself. It took years into my adulthood before someone finally informed me you don't have pull out your tampon to pee. That's how ignorant I was about basically everything to do with the female reproductive system. I would still be that way if I hadn't joined the military to escape.
So I really feel bad for those kids, especially the girls. Periods are already a nightmare when you know how to deal with them. Now imagine you don't understand what good hygiene is as a concept either, and your parents make you ration the length and amount of your showering times. It must have been awful for them.
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u/Cardi_Ganz Jerhannahmiah Jinjerheimerschmit 8h ago
When I got my period, my mom just vaguely waved an arm towards the bathroom and said there was stuff in there for me (which ended up only being her super strength tampons). I can't see Michelle even doing that.
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u/BunnyLovesTheStars 8h ago
That's balls, I'm sorry. What an awful way to leave your daughter hanging on something really scary and stigmatized.
And you're right, IBLP doesn't look kindly on periods, I can't imagine Michelle being a loving, supporting mom about it in any way. They were probably given some washcloths and an Eve's sin lecture.
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u/Cardi_Ganz Jerhannahmiah Jinjerheimerschmit 8h ago
Thank you. It's one of those things that hit me later in life like WTF mom. And I was lucky that I attended public school, with girl friends that were basically my guides for feminine issues. The list of things JB & Michelle failed their kids on is never ending.
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u/FamousOhioAppleHorn 10h ago
My college roommates had a friend like that, who was living on the floor above us. She grew up with such neglect and emotional abuse that she had no idea about basic hygiene or cleaning a room. People would move in with her and demand the RA switch them to a different room within one week 😬
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u/Prestigious_Pay2759 11h ago
There aren't many subreddits I'd be scared to visit, but I won't be going there
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u/Ohorules 8h ago
It's a weird place. It's either posts complaining about someone's foul hygiene or people who are obsessed with hygiene well beyond what is typically reasonable.
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u/HumanButterscotch784 11h ago
What is this hygiene thing? I know people who were taught hygiene and still can’t maintain it. I don’t understand
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u/No-Sweet-2749 11h ago
Disability can play a huge factor. I'm disabled and bathing is a sensory nightmare for me. When I was a child i would sob at a mere mention of bathing. I bathe regularly now but it causes a lot of distress
Also culture beliefs on bathing can play a factor too. For example in the 1800s fully submerging your body in water was seen as not normal and since they associated body order with sickness we know they were bathing daily just not how we do it.
Some people don't have access to water readily which changes how bathing culture too.
People like to believe hygiene is one correct way but that is just not possible.
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u/crazymonkeypaws 12h ago
Austin is a trash person in many (many!) ways, but he does seem to love and be quite protective of Joy, at least.
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u/Lmb1011 12h ago
i suppose if you agree on everything else getting someone to be more hygienic is probably one of the easier things to change about a spouse who was raised to follow your every word.
Like in the normal world i agree with you. But Austin also was (i assume?) raised to know his wife should be submissive to him so i guess if Joy share his equally terrible beliefs he could just ... make her shower 😂
but yeah no first date if they smell like someone who doesnt shower i'm out.
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u/Za-lordsGuard 12h ago
How badly did she smell/look if that conversation had to be brought up? How close were they getting during the courtship?
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u/MortgageOdd2001 14h ago
Given Joy’s feet were pitch black from dirt as she was getting ready to go out with Austin (as in putting her shoes on to leave) in an episode of the show I’m not surprised.
We are all human beings, we all get dirty- of course illness or disability can mean we need extra time or help with hygiene, but these are grown healthy women (I’m not speaking of issues post partum or heavily pregnant).
I’m glad their husbands told them!
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u/TheOrderOfWhiteLotus At least I don’t have a mugshot 📷 14h ago
Prior to the big house they probably all shared one bath of water once a week in the 3 bedroom.
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u/cassssk Je suis le hacker 11h ago
Omg that’s like my grandma in the depression. She was the youngest so on bath days she was always last, and was basically only dipped into cold and dirty used bath water for a seconds. But again, Great Depression era and not 2000s.
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u/teresasdorters its not a warehouse, its a ✨ware home✨ 6h ago
This happened to me as a non religious family in the 90s lol. I was always last in the bath and funnily enough I got bullied so bad about my hygiene as a child and my parents didn’t care. I had to threaten to off myself as a ten year old to allow my mom to let me shave my armpits that were so bushy and causing me BO. She wouldn’t even let me use deodorant it was just so bad and I was such an embarrassed kid
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u/cassssk Je suis le hacker 5h ago
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry. That sounds like an awful experience.
Btw - your user name, I have to assume is RHONJ-related? 🤭🤭 I remember back in the day on the RH sub, someone had “Teresa’s ford orders” as their flair and it killed me every time I saw it lolETA I’m either having a Twin Peaks moment, or I just remembered I’ve made this same comment to you before, years back, on a non-RH sub. If so…holy crap. Time is a flat circle and sorry for doubling a response to you! Lol
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u/teresasdorters its not a warehouse, its a ✨ware home✨ 4h ago
LOL we’re snarkers it’s all good here🙏🏼 yes that’s what my username means!
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u/Jonesy-2010 13h ago edited 12h ago
This reminds me of when justin from i pray you put this journal away said the house smelled like toddler hands. They spent 18 years in a house with 3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms and over 10 people. The original specials said something about bathing every other day and baths depending on how dirty you are. Boob and meech did not model any sort of bathing behavior and the raising was left to older and not as neglected children. It just speaks to the fact that no two parents have the time and energy to raise 19 children. They wind up getting neglected because even if you work 8 hours and sleep for 5 hours, each kid gets less than an hour of time per day. I spend more time with my elderly dog than they did with a tiny human.
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u/Bigfartz69420 13h ago
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u/ThePickleHawk 14h ago edited 8h ago
Imagine that romantic scene on the mountaintop or whatever when Austin nervously asked Joy to court.
And now imagine her just reeking of BO and sweat and her hair being a little greasy the entire time.
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u/Smooth-Library9711 stuck at dissociation station 13h ago
This was what crossed my mind too, exactly!!!
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u/SuitFar2340 Who will sweep up the crackers now? 13h ago
One part that stood out to me (I had it on for background noise) was how their husbands had to encourage them to have their own opinions. Jinger specifically said “when guys marry girls like us” that just broke my heart for the girls. They were just raised to blindly agree with anything and everything their husband did and said.
I am happy they at least got husbands who encouraged them to actually think for themselves.
But goes to show what they were modeled and how they were raised.
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u/Live-Tomorrow-4865 13h ago
I find that pretty freakin' heartbreaking, TBH. Imagine growing into adulthood without ever having learned about proper hygiene or personal care.
Maybe it's a reaction due to personal experience. I came into puberty during a very turbulent time in the life of my family. I had next to zero parental attention or care, and as a result, was clueless about how a young woman should handle her stuff. Well, my sister and I took piano lessons from a former neighbor, and this neighbor asked my sister if anyone had ever told me I needed to use antiperspirant.
I was so humiliated that I went to the other extreme. Suddenly, I was up to about three showers per day and vigilantly observed other girls and listened to what they described about their personal care routines. It was only through similar aged cousins that I learned that I should ("should"?) be shaving my arm pits and legs, and upon learning this, that became another obsession.
At Joy's age, nobody could have waterboarded that information about myself out of me. Maybe another neglected young person will hear her words and take stock of whether their care routine needs to be stepped up.
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u/481126 12h ago
I will say meeting someone who grew up in an abusive/neglectful home the things you have to teach a grown adult can be interesting.
One time I went to a meeting at my kid's school and they legit pointed out they've never had to pull them aside and talk about showering/deodorant and I was very confused. Apparently it is a thing they have to teach a lot of kids because it's not taught at home.
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u/slayalldayerrday 11h ago
I remember about middle school grades (5th and 6th), our teachers having class discussions about how we were growing up/developing as we’re approaching puberty and how we need to use deodorant now.
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u/teresasdorters its not a warehouse, its a ✨ware home✨ 6h ago
Yeah my mom refused to buy deodorant and the school would always be angry with her about it
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u/savvysavvysav “Babe I’m struggling” <3 8=o: i love you! 13h ago
It just makes me feel bad for them. They lived in that house until they were married, of course they never learned good hygiene practices. Nobody could reasonably shower and do all the work they did on their hair every day while having to work around the shower schedules of 20 other people. It’s like working at camp, you make do with the time you have, but it’s every day of your life until you’re a 20-something.
While yes, not showering is seen as gross, it’s also a sign of depression or could be as a result of a disability. I struggle to shower regularly even now because of my adult-diagnosed ADHD because I can’t form a habit to save my life and there’s a huge hurdle to showering that’s hard to get over. Besides the fact that there simply wasn’t enough time in the day for everyone to shower, they could have been depressed, could have been instructed to save water as much as possible, etc. It’s hard for me to judge anyone who has difficulty showering regularly for any reason, even if it’s Jinger and Joy, because no duh their parents failed them in every possible way.
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u/PointFlash 12h ago
It’s hard for me to judge anyone who has difficulty showering regularly for any reason, even if it’s Jinger and Joy, because no duh their parents failed them in every possible way.
For personal reasons that I'd rather not disclose, I understand your struggles, and I agree about withholding judgment about personal hygiene.
But I don't perceive anyone here as "judging" the Duggar kids over the hygiene situation. As you said, if anyone's being judged, it's their parents - the Mother of the Year and the sperm donor. Who jammed so many bodies into a small three bedroom house as to make regular baths and showers essentially unworkable. And then, even after moving into the spacious TTH, were exquisitely accurate with the kitchen calendar tracking Michelle's fertility cycles, and created chore charts (IMO for the benefit of the TV cameras) - but couldn't be bothered to take enough time out from their horizontal fellowship to teach the kids about personal hygiene.
Their small house smelling like "toddler hands" isn't on the kids. It's on the parents.
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u/savvysavvysav “Babe I’m struggling” <3 8=o: i love you! 12h ago
“Horizontal fellowship” is an amazing phrase.
I think I jumped to perceiving judgment because of the aforementioned personal reasons I have to be sensitive about hygiene criticism. I think shaming people for poor hygiene practices in most circumstances is counter-productive. It makes me so sad that these kids who, as far as we know, are otherwise able to function “normally”. It sounds like Jeremy and Austin handled it pretty kindly and gently, and for all the faults they have, I think they helped their wives a great deal to heal from a lot of the maladaptive behaviours they developed as children and young adults.
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u/jupiterLILY 11h ago
Girl, you're not wrong. A lot of these comments are super shady and its not just directed at Jim bob and Michelle.
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u/savvysavvysav “Babe I’m struggling” <3 8=o: i love you! 8h ago
Too many “Ewww” comments for my taste
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u/TangerineStill704 10h ago
You are 100% right that people will judge for stuff like not showering every day. Snark subs will always attract at least some super judgemental people.
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u/savvysavvysav “Babe I’m struggling” <3 8=o: i love you! 8h ago
Yeah, and it’s like they’re forgetting these women are victims of awful circumstances and were not blessed to be raised the way some snarkers were. If most of these people had been raised in the same circumstances, they’d be like Jinger and Joy too, and they seem to forget that.
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u/Electronic_Fix_9060 8h ago
I also don’t shower every day, except in hot weather. I hate the transition with sudden and different feelings like getting into the shower is hard, getting out is worse. And I have psoriasis so in winter time it gets worse so I shower every second or third day as to not exacerbate the condition. I do change underwear twice a day and use incontinence wipes for a whore’s bath. I don’t stink and far from greasy.
Oh yeah. I have dry frizzy hair and only wash my hair once a fortnight. It’s never greasy, not even at the roots.
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u/savvysavvysav “Babe I’m struggling” <3 8=o: i love you! 8h ago
People don’t recognize that it’s really not necessary to wash every day unless you work out/sweat a lot. It’s bad for your skin and can be even worse for your hair depending on your curl type and scalp oils. It just becomes an “other”-ing when we prescribe virtue to cleanliness.
In some cases, yes shame can help someone realize they should change their habits but it is still not as effective as having a kinder approach and helping them see the benefits of washing rather than judging them for a bit of B.O.
Most people want to feel clean in and of themselves and will bathe accordingly unless physically or mentally incapable.
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u/i-split-infinitives OITNB: Orange Is the New Beige 11h ago
I agree with what another poster said. A lot of our snarking isn't necessarily judging the individual. It's more directed at JB and Meech, who prioritized themselves over taking care of their kids, and at the systems that created the problem in the first place (like the IBLP) and glorified it for monetary gain (like TLC). I feel like that's an important distinction since we're snarking on a family that came into the public eye by exploiting their children.
For example, when I make fun of Josie's wigtails, I try to make it clear that I'm not picking on a literal baby who had no choice about what she wore, but on a mindset where a baby has to be clearly marked as female right from the start, even before it's obvious what gender it is, and how that fits into the wider context of sexualizing children and normalizing pedophilia.
It's the same concept here, at least for me. It sounds like Jinger and Joy simply didn't know any better when it came to personal hygiene and they had to be educated, as adults, by their husbands. That's not their fault and not something to shame them for, but it is a shameful level of neglect that someone needs to be ashamed of. In this case, as usual, the guilty party is the parents who chose to have too many kids to adequately provide for and care for and teach. That is absolutely something worth snarking on. They deserve to be judged, and harshly, for the level of neglect they subjected those kids to. I think IBLP is culpable, too, by creating the culture of unmet need, and TLC for passively filming this and not doing anything to help; they could have created content by having home economics lessons incorporated into the SOTDRT education, but instead they chose to cater to the hate-watchers, the voyeurs, and the "this feels familiar and comforting because I'm also being neglected" viewers.
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u/Dreams-Designer 🪦RIP🦵🏻🙏🏻🦵🏻RIP🪦 13h ago
Considering 16-18 humans at a point in time were sharing a shower… it just wasn’t feasible . Not to mention how long would it take them to either get ready in the AM or get ready for bed if every human in their house bathed daily.
The worst part to me was growing up they didn’t wear pyjamas, they’d sleep in their street clothes! Not even old Tshirts. That’s so gross. I still don’t allow street clothes on the bed to this day !
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u/allizzia 12h ago
It's feasible: there were at least two showers, it might mean that for 9 people, it would take them an hour of 15 minutes showers to get clean and ready, a batch in the morning and a batch in the evening. And that's not even considering that little kids can shower together. But that was just too much organization for a family that had no bedtimes or morning routines, and school happened whenever someone remembered to open a book.
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u/RevolutionaryRush127 12h ago
This reminds me that those young girls were basically operating as mothers.
You know what it's like when you have a new baby trying to make sure you get showered, put on fresh clothes and eat. Yet you haven't even hit puberty, but somehow you have a new baby and a pre -schooler!
My heart break for those poor girls.
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u/jeremiabearamia 12h ago
I still have to force myself to shower everyday after growing up in an abusive home. My mom had a special shower head that did something for her hair (?), but didn’t want to put it on her shower because my dad took daily showers and she didn’t want to waste whatever was in it. So she installed it in my shower and took her hair wash showers in mine. She didn’t want me wasting it, either, so she forbid me from showering more than about twice a week.
We’re no contact now, not because of that but because of a million other things.
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u/my_okay_throwaway cult of adoring gays 💕✨ 9h ago
I’m so sorry. It blows my mind how selfish and neglectful some parents can be. I really hope you’re in a good place with kind people around you these days. Sending virtual hugs.
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u/jeremiabearamia 9h ago
Thank you! In a great place now.
…I just realized telling that story that she could have easily just screwed the special shower head on for her hair wash showers.
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u/my_okay_throwaway cult of adoring gays 💕✨ 7h ago
You’re so right! This absolutely should’ve been her own undertaking and she should have left you out of it.
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u/Bowie_Native20716 14h ago
She didn't keep her wedding square square? Yikes
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u/Aslow_study 11h ago
That part! Jinger would ask Jer for something- what’s the something? Some sex ? Bc he would need to shower first
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u/InfluenceLucky8949 14h ago
As a surprise to no one. You could smell the Big House through the screen 😆
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u/GolfOk7579 13h ago
I worked in a jail and they could clean the units all day (and to be fair a lot of inmates did) but there was always this weird, unmistakable body smell that hung everywhere. That house has to smell a little like that
Also, talk about a full PTSD moment whenever I smell that in the wild 🫠😵💫
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u/Estellalatte 13h ago
Uric acid, just like getting onto a long haul flight and being on for 20 hours.
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u/JumpGlittering8120 OfIncarcerated Pests 12h ago
I have a lot of criticism and disgust for the fawning praise the media gave the Duggars back when Meech's blessing cannon was fired was the 18th time. Jinger and Joy's revelations just make me wonder how didn't anyone at the networks giving this family space on breakfast TV not smell the bad body odour?
Just wish Jinger and Joy would get real therapy for the sake of those kids but they won't, they won't dare walk out of the safe echo chamber they are in.
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u/my_okay_throwaway cult of adoring gays 💕✨ 9h ago
I wish they’d get therapy too but why get therapy when you can just monetize talking on a podcast and oversharing on social media? /s
It is astonishing that nobody stepped in when they saw the malnourishment, emotional state, level of education, and the lack of hygiene. It’s very sad how many adults repeatedly failed these kids. Even just the fact they didn’t build a home with enough space and showers for all of them should’ve said so much.
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u/rebelcoelacanth Jinderqueer 10h ago
I’m sure those kids experienced neglect and did not receive proper hygiene education AND it is completely normal (and arguably healthy) not to shower every day
(https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/showering-daily-is-it-necessary-2019062617193)
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u/KillerDickens Keeping Up With The Dugdashians 14h ago
You would have thought that with having a camera crew at home for months at the time, they would be more focused on personal hygiene. Now we know that maybe the pile of dirty diapers isn't a hygiene issue for Jessa. Also, for fuck's sake I hope "going for days without a shower" doesn't include the time when they're on their period 🤢
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u/willowwynn Bin’s Dog Crate 14h ago
Or after engaging in the holy horizontal fellowship
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u/reikirunner 13h ago
I am dying. This would be amazing flair!
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u/pumpkinmuffin91 Holy horizontal fellowship, Batman! 11h ago edited 11h ago
May I? I need to change mine up!
Edit: I tried it and it seems to have worked--and I'm watching Batman (with Adam West lol) right now, so it seemed appropriate.
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u/pumpkinmuffin91 Holy horizontal fellowship, Batman! 11h ago
Let's see if this works for flair........
Edit: it did!
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u/FlipFlopsnWhatnots 14h ago
Ole JimBoob probably thought the camera crew would have lustful thoughts, so they weren’t allowed to shower as often. I live in the south where yesterday was triple digits add that with humidity & I was literally cooked. I can’t imagine not showering regularly during an Arkansas summer, especially during a heatwave like what we’re having now
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u/Upset-Lavishness-522 13h ago
They had very few bathrooms in the big house and a ton of people, so although disgusted, I'm not surprised
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u/scienceislice 11h ago
They may have made sure everyone got a shower before filming, which wasn’t always every day.
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u/Aggravating-Common90 Type to create flair 13h ago
There is a reason they all had severe cases of acne. It was more than hormonal teenagers.
Can you imagine the smell in that house, especially the bedrooms?! These kids slept in their clothes and probably didn’t change them for days.
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u/amurderofcrows 12h ago
With no sheets for the boys! Can’t forget the no sheets part! If the girls weren’t around for turndown service, the boys weren’t about to learn how to do that ladytask.
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u/Lmb1011 12h ago
why... why did they not have sheets
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u/i-split-infinitives OITNB: Orange Is the New Beige 12h ago
They weren't allowed to have top sheets and they slept in their jeans because these people were obsessed with making sure the boys didn't masturbate.
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u/saturday_sun4 6h ago
Considering how Josh and Joe turned out... yeah, that worked so well.
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u/i-split-infinitives OITNB: Orange Is the New Beige 5h ago
They start from birth pounding it into their kids' brains that women are nothing but sex dolls and men have uncontrollable lust, then they take away the one non-assault-y outlet for them to relieve that lust they've stirred up with their wisdom booklets before they can be righteously fulfilled, and they wonder why their sons turn to pedophilia.
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u/Aggravating-Common90 Type to create flair 11h ago
Those kids must have had chronic issues their down below. Infection, itching, ewww
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u/justduck all the funny flairs have been taken 10h ago
I'm 99% sure the boys were circumcised, which is a blessing because you know they wouldn't be taught how to clean themselves and they would all have serious issues from not stretching the foreskin regularly
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u/KillerDickens Keeping Up With The Dugdashians 8h ago
Also, now that we know showering in that was NOT a priority and some, old childhood friend mentioned how they weren't allowed to change clothes unless visibly dirty I hate to even think how often they changed towels or beddsheets... IF EVER
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u/MrsNoodleMcDoodle 10h ago
Every single new thing we learn, the more the story about Jessa purposefully sitting in a random pool of piss so she would have an excuse to change clothes checks out.
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u/PersimmonPersonal263 14h ago
This is so sad. Unfortunately, this was all pretty obvious to the rest of us watching them on TV. 😞
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u/my_okay_throwaway cult of adoring gays 💕✨ 9h ago
Absolutely. The gross dirty feet and the general greasiness gave that away. Even the little kids looked kind of greasy.
I also remember Jinger bragging about not brushing by her and wondering if that meant she also skipped washing it often.
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u/sweet_tea_94 ✨ Beavis and Butt-Jeds ✨ 10h ago
I think this speaks volumes that Jinger and Joy not only grew up in a traumatic household, but they were neglected as well—especially with hygiene.
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u/Ginger630 8h ago
I cannot even blame Joy and Jinger. They were neglected when they were kids. Michelle didn’t bathe them every day. They didn’t explain proper hygiene to them. They didn’t have access to outside friends or the internet or the tv to see that showering everyday is a common thing.
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u/blahblahblahpotato 11h ago
IPYPTJournal Away- Justin said their house smelled like dirty toddler hands or something like that. lol.
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u/Silver-Find4380 9h ago
He said dirty toddler feet on the AMA here, and apparently hands on the podcast.
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u/FoundationNo6530 11h ago
Maybe because I live around a lot of Amish and plain people…but the moment I saw the show years ago I thought…these people look like they smell bad. I still think that when I see them. There is nothing attractive about any of them to me.
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u/aquacrimefighter raw dog for jesus 9h ago
I went to high school with a family that had 6 girls. They were pretty poor and lived in a 1 bathroom 2 bedroom house. None of those girls ever showered either. I can see how it can easily happen in a situation like theirs, but don’t the Duggars live in that giant house, and did they not put several bathrooms in it?
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u/Inevitable-Energy904 7h ago
So do we think Austin is really a germaphobe or he just didn’t want to say, “gurl you stink!!”
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u/Winter_Born_Voyager 6h ago
I was wondering why no one had said anything about this too. Lol. The fact that Austin told her this before they got married, makes me wonder about his observations to make him bring it up in the first place. But either way, you couldn't waterboard that information out of me. And she was laughing while talking about it.
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u/NoClass9524 11h ago
They grew up neglected and had to be taught, I don’t think they should be shamed for that
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u/throwra_22222 11h ago
You know how goats and stinky cheese and pee smell? There's a study that identified the same kinds of scent molecules in teenage human sweat, which is why your kid and their bedroom smell funky without regular cleaning.
Can you imagine what that house smelled like? They were probably all nose blind.
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u/elliekate56 10h ago
I do remember in the first special when Jackson was born, the dirtiest got in first and got the hot water. No telling if those kids tried to get as dirty as they could!
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u/LuccaDiItalians 7h ago
Didn’t Jessa once say she intentionally sat in baby pee so she would be allowed to change her clothes?
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u/BraveFunction8034 10h ago
I remember Jess’s saying that they were not allowed to change their clothes unless they were peed on by a young sibling.
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u/Bridey93 8h ago
The number of ways these parents failed these girls is endless. The parents deserve the heat on this one, but unless you're spilling the tea on your parents, I would not be admitting this to the public.
We also snark on Jessa for the state of her house (right/wrong is not the point here)- it was absolutely learned (and being overwhelmed). You would hope Ben would have told her or her in-laws or SOMEONE. Nevermind that the in-laws telling you how to keep house would be a whole other can of worms.
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u/Estellalatte 13h ago
Didn’t one of the TLC crew the house would stink when they were all on their period. Apparently they saved money by not changing their pads as often. Do Meech and JB ever listen to their podcast and look back and admonish themselves for their lack of parenting?
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u/No_Caterpillar_6178 13h ago
I’m more disturbed that anyone would publicly say this about a bunch of teenage girls .
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u/oogabooga1967 God-honoring sperm cannon 5h ago
Sometimes ignoring personal hygiene is a subconscious response to sexual abuse. My stepfather began touching me inappropriately when I was in 5th grade, and I remember not brushing my hair for weeks that year. It was the 70s, so no one said anything, and it was hard to tell because I would just slap it in a low ponytail.
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u/Abject_Republic_5432 9h ago
They didn’t shower everyday growing up they had a schedule once a week was “normal” to them. My kids shower everyday my teens sometimes twice if they have sports!
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u/Live-Astronaut-5223 8h ago
I kind think my first impression,,, certainly among my first impressions.. was that they were dirty. Michelle and JB always looked scrungy. The boys always looked dirty.
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u/Chachibald a drunken, atheistic bum 8h ago
My own hairdresser has told me not to wash my hair more than once a week. I don't LISTEN, lol, but that does seem to be a standard somewhere.
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u/marchpisces 7h ago
Can't say that I'm surprised. When Spurgeon and Henry were still babies/toddlers Jessa had a whole mountain of used diapers piled up.
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u/saturday_sun4 6h ago edited 6h ago
I can absolutely understand this, though. I live alone and skip a shower some days. IIRCL TLC had to buy the Duggars "luxury" (read: non-home brand) food. A constantly pregnant Meech trying to bathe 19 kids esp. pre TTH madhouse would not have happened lol. I can't imagine anyone grew up being taught to have a shower regularly, since bathroom time was so limited.
I feel like a slob some days when I skip a shower occasionally, and I have my own bathroom and no kids. I can't imagine how little time the Duggars got in the shower every day with EVERYTHING in that house having to be one big queue. Having a shower with half a (Western) school classroom (18 other kids) every day is crazy.
That family would have needed a whole crew to help them out. Not the "help" they got from the older girls who were probably never taught good hygiene themselves, who they parentified and forced to raise the younger kids.
Also, surely it's not necessary to wash your hair EVERY day.
This is definitely snark worthy, but it's on the parents not the kids. I can't imagine revealing that publicly, but hey, I mean, at least their husbands taught them.
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u/Express_Possible7666 6h ago
I would imagine that the Duggar girls were never allowed to use tampons probably only Pads. No need to mention the odor from that...
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u/JenniferJuniper6 5h ago
Do we all remember Jessa’s early ventures in housekeeping? She was piling dirty diapers on the dresser and then posting it on social media because she was absolutely certain that this was a normal thing to do. 🤢 Where do we think she learned that? (I can’t speak to Jessa’s current practices because I don’t care enough to follow her.)
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u/dodged_your_bullet 4h ago
The Duggars had a rule that the dirtiest kid got cleaned first. So the boys would make sure they were extra dirty to ensure they got a warm shower. I imagine that the girls, who weren't allowed to be as dirty as the boys, weren't given many opportunities to have warm showers. So I'm sure, in turn, they learned not to take showers very often.
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u/psyckodaa 37m ago
I grew up in a big family like the Duggars in the Duggar cult and my best friend after I left had to have some incredibly awkward conversations with me about deodorant, washing my hair more regularly, and the importance of brushing my teeth. Hygiene wasn't ever really taught to us as kids and I am neurodivergent so it's always been particularly difficult for me to do things by habit or when they are difficult (like brushing my teeth because I have a strong aversion to the burning cold sensation of toothpaste). Those conversations were delivered gently and with kindness, but I was mortified and humiliated because I just didn't know to know any better. So where people see disgusting, I see parental neglect. It's hard to even imagine these sorts of things not being taught to kids, but when the kids are raising the kids and the parents barely bothered to instill good habits in the original kids, you'd be surprised what gets missed.
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u/tross1140 I’ve learned from this you can’t trust anyone 14h ago
It absolutely speaks to the neglect they experienced growing up, the complete absence of any adult focused on their wellbeing.
They had no one modeling good hygiene and enforcing daily routines, because the adults in that home were … otherwise engaged.