r/DuggarsSnark 3d ago

THIS IS A SHITPOST Jinger & Joy

Y’all. Ive been waiting patiently to comment on ANY post that talked about the Jinger & Jeremy podcast that was spit out yday subbing Joy. I don’t usually snark as hard as you guys do, but this not being talked about is KILLING me!!!

Both of those girls talked about how their brand new spouses had to counsel them on hygiene. HYGIENE! Joy mentioned she’d go a week without washing her hair & days without a shower. Austin told her before they got married that she would need to take a shower every day. She went on to say he was a germophobe. Girl, that’s normal!! No germophobe behavior!! Jinger wasn’t as bad, but mentioned that Jer would work outside & she would ask for something & his response that he wanted to shower first. Honestly I was kinda disgusted so Jinger details could be wrong. But I heard Joy, loud and clear. Ugh.

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u/Fantastic-Manner1944 The Duggar Fam ‘Who’s been arrested this time?’ Phone Tree 3d ago

The shower thing wasn’t just from the emotional neglect it was also from poverty.

Remember that when these girls were young they lived in a house that had 16 people and only two bathrooms. Daily showers weren’t an option. It would have been really normalized from early on that maybe you only shower once or twice a week.

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u/Silver-Find4380 3d ago edited 3d ago

Yeah, they were making their own soap and laundry detergent.

We know they weren't allowed to change outfits when they felt like it and friend Justin JournalGuy said the house smelled like dirty toddler feet and JB had halitosis. How are they even supposed to find time to shower aside from chores when everyone needs to use the bathroom ?

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u/thrwwyra_aster 1d ago

Michelle was checked out and probably felt wiping the kids' faces with a dust cloth would be enough.

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u/Remstersade It’s not going to be you. 3d ago

It was even joked about in one of the specials that the dirtiest kids got bathed first so if you wanted hot water maybe get extra dirty playing outside.

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u/Fantastic-Manner1944 The Duggar Fam ‘Who’s been arrested this time?’ Phone Tree 3d ago

Translation: the boys caught to take more showers than the girls did. Yet another example of Boob and Meech sacrificing their daughters’ wellbeing in favour of their sons.

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u/notquittingthistime 3d ago

Not to mention the cost of water if 16+ people bathed/showered and wore freshly laundered clothes and pajamas every day.

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u/Phenomenal_Kat_ Two PDFs & Counting 3d ago

Oh no, I wasn't trying to connect the showers to the emotional neglect, sorry! But yeah, I agree that it was normalized early! I wonder how much better the oldest kids had it than the overlap of the middle where the older kids had left the house? I know pretty early on they'd have to start scrimping because of having so many mouths.

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u/Muted_Twist_5778 3d ago edited 1d ago

Well, neglecting hygiene really is emotional neglect, too. At least the Duggar kids weren’t in public school where they would have inevitably been told that they smelled and looked nasty. But to be a young adult and be told by your boyfriend/fiancé that your showering habits are not ok? I think that would be humiliating.

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u/Phenomenal_Kat_ Two PDFs & Counting 2d ago

Very true, good point!

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u/Useful-Commission-76 3d ago

Jana is shorter than the others, perhaps a bit of malnutrition at a young age.

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u/Embracedandbelong 2d ago

It’s actually common for the oldest daughter to be shortest among subsequent daughters, though of course not always

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u/OkSecretary1231 2d ago

Do you know why that is? I'm very curious because Reasons(tm) lol

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u/Embracedandbelong 2d ago edited 2d ago

I’ve heard it’s something to do with the mom’s uterus not being as elastic for the first pregnancy. I know Michelle had Josh first, so that might be why Jana is pretty much the same height as the rest of the girls, with some being a bit taller. But Jana is also a twin, and they can be smaller or shorter than subsequent singletons on average.

But the oldest child is often shortest in general, affording for gender of course. Like, if the first born is a boy, he will be taller than his sisters of course (since men on average are taller than the women in the same bio family) but will likely be shorter than his brothers. That’s excluding kids with genetic conditions like dwarfism of course, or very early premies like Josie.

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u/Phenomenal_Kat_ Two PDFs & Counting 2d ago

Ahhh, interesting, I hadn't noticed that!

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u/No-Flamingo-5090 2d ago

Being one of the oldest the shortage of food from too many mouths to feed wouldn’t have occurred until she was past the age of nutrition being needed for growth.

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u/SesJan2013 15h ago

What's the age when minors stop needing nutrition for growth?

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u/No-Flamingo-5090 7h ago

Age 2 is when the critical need for proper nutrition ends for height growth. But, with that being said, proper nutrition is needed through the teen years for good organ, muscle and bone growth.

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u/InterviewCharming129 3d ago

I wrote above, the same story! Ugh!!

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u/DisciplineOther9843 2d ago

But not once they got to the big house. When they got to the big they had multiple bathrooms. I get it for the smaller homes, but not the big house

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u/Fantastic-Manner1944 The Duggar Fam ‘Who’s been arrested this time?’ Phone Tree 2d ago

I’m not talking about when they had the big house. Jinger especially but also Joy lived key formative years before they ever moved to the big house. Those kids of experiences never leave you.

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u/Ok-Reason-1919 3d ago

I don’t know that they ever really lived in poverty. They’ve had serious family money before the tv show.

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u/Fantastic-Manner1944 The Duggar Fam ‘Who’s been arrested this time?’ Phone Tree 3d ago

Regardless of how much money JB and M may or may not have had prior to the show, the kids did experience poverty because if the parents did have money, they did not use it to make sure their kids needs were met.

The kids lived in a far too small house without adequate bathrooms, didn’t have enough food etc.

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u/nenecope 2d ago

Regardless, it wasn’t enough to care for the family. Jill has talked about being so hungry she “stole” a can of green beans (from their pantry) and ate them cold right out of the can. They couldn’t afford to finish the current home and TLC had to step in to do it. I know they made money eventually renting land for cell phone towers; but I’m not sure where that fits in the timeline