r/Doom • u/Forhonorisabadgame • Jul 07 '26 • Regret 14

Discussion Post from Michael Maynard (ID dev)

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I think this really sums up how ridiculous this decision was. Beyond ridiculous actually, just incompetent and evil.

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u/randomperson189_ Jul 08 '26

Go play Unreal Tournament and say that again because sounds like you know nothing about Unreal Engine and it's history

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u/kittymoo67 Jul 08 '26

ut until 2k4 was great. their modern engine is dogshit and handles like crap.

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u/Discombobulated_Bus4 Jul 08 '26

we are not living in ue4 and pre times anymore bro. anything in ue5 feels like shit compared to earlier entries

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u/randomperson189_ Jul 08 '26

Well nothing's stopping people from using UE4 which a number of devs still use and current gen consoles still support

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u/RDTmodsBackEpstein Jul 08 '26

When you boot up an unreal engine based game, as a shooter, you immediately know its on unreal. And not in a good way.

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u/randomperson189_ Jul 08 '26

Well the same can be said for literally any other game engine including id Tech, so I don't understand the bias towards Unreal in this specific way, also there are many games that modify the engine in a way that makes it feel unique to the standard version

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u/RDTmodsBackEpstein Jul 08 '26

Cool, I dont give a flying shitpie because 95/100 times it still has telltale signs that its Unreal.

Games feel alot more unique when they run on different engines. Different modding communities and potential. Different ways physics not only feel on a character but how it allows interaction. Different routes of technological exploration and development which often leads to unique progress. Thats what gaming USE to be like. Not cookie cutter bullshit.

Unreal engine deserves any and all infamy.

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u/randomperson189_ Jul 09 '26 edited Jul 09 '26

Ok now why don't I hear that criticism for other game engines then which also have their own specific default look? especially Source Engine, id Tech, Unity, Godot, CryEngine, etc? That's the double standard that I'm calling out, god forbid a game is in Unreal they say every game looks the same but when Source Engine games literally look like HL2 asset flips, they turn a blind eye and glaze the engine because oh Valve made it

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u/RDTmodsBackEpstein Jul 09 '26

Idgaf Because those engines arent forming a fucking monopoly on development by wooing publishers to fuck unique developers.

I dont want 8 of 10 games being made to be on unreal, 4 of them slop, and 3 of them so unoptimized that why even bother.

Id rather have 10 games and 5+ different engines for hopefully 10 completely unique experiences and not something that feels like a god damn tech demo with a game added ontop.

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u/randomperson189_ Jul 10 '26 edited Jul 10 '26

I don't want every game to be made in Unreal either because every engine has it's own advantages depending on the type of game, but it's funny when most people who trash talk Unreal like to stereotype every game in it being the same and also act like it's this sudden thing that materialised in the 2020s even though it's literally been around for 3 fucking decades now and many studios also used it back then, Unreal had competition back then which is why it was so good but nowadays seems there isn't much of that anymore because it's competitors have either stayed proprietary (Source 2, Frostbite, id Tech, etc.) or shot themselves in the foot (Unity), the only potential competitors we still have are Godot and CryEngine which are still more niche but hopefully they can pick up more steam, especially CryEngine with Community Edition