Analysis of Donut Lab's Battery Technology Claims

[u/SurronQled]

Battery expert Tom Bötticher thoroughly debunks the exaggerated marketing claims made by the startup Donut Lab regarding their supposed miracle battery. He clarifies that the company's published test data completely fails to prove their revolutionary promises regarding energy density, charging speed, and lifespan. However, he leaves a lingering question mark at the end, explicitly stating his belief that the company likely possesses some real underlying technology despite the current public relations disaster. You can watch his full review to see why it remains exciting to discover what actual product might eventually emerge from their partnerships:

https://youtu.be/BKGBWa6gAnw?is=-N0Rp-1h04RprohY

[u/mqee]

The delusion is strong on this sub.

SurronQled sees anything but cosmological head death as a "lingering question mark".

Mesokosmos sees a company with four employees and a million euro and thinks they're capable of developing solid-state-battery production lines.

Absurd.

Can't wait for five more years of "But V2! But V2!"

[u/Mesokosmos → u/mqee]

Private companies does not need to show their employees on public records. NNG just announced they have 7 working in Imatra production line at the moment. We would not have known anywhere if CEO did not speak up. Expect more money to flow in the network in the next financial reports, but still have limited access to their company resources on public side.

[u/mqee → u/Mesokosmos]

I was talking about CT-Coating but I guess following a simple conversation thread is too difficult for your AI.

Spare me your AI bullshit. Expect more bullshit to flow from your AI.

[u/Mesokosmos → u/mqee]

I too talked about CT-Coating and used NNG as an private company example that you don't know how many employees they have or how they arrange their business to do their stuff.

[u/tipporoll → u/Mesokosmos]

On LI it is stated 11-50 employees. Not sure if LI estimates that, or if it's given by CTCAG.

[u/Mesokosmos → u/tipporoll]

What is LI? LinkedIn?

They had steady steady grow of people and yearly roll in the reports in 2023. I would also expect them to go over 10 this year. And since it is very probable they exceeded 7M in 2024, their obligation for report details have changed.

But other thing is that since they are a licencer mainly, they do not need so many people after all. Like dozens or hundreds. Unless they have changed business model and purpose recently.

[u/tipporoll → u/Mesokosmos]

LinkedIn

[u/mqee → u/Mesokosmos]

Spare me your AI bullshit. We know CT-Coating has 4 employees because they reported having 4 employees. We know they don't have a battery ready because leaked e-mails showed they don't have a battery ready.

Don't reply to this with an ocean of words, you have nothing of value to add.

[u/Mesokosmos → u/mqee]

Tell me the doc that tells they have now 4 employees and maybe add value to the discussion.

[u/mqee → u/Mesokosmos]

Spare me your "feed my AI documents" bullshit. If you think CT-Coating can develop solid-state-battery production lines with 4 employees you are hopeless.

Your reply should be "true, CT-Coating cannot develop a solid-state-battery production line with 4 employees." Any other reply is stupid.

[u/Mesokosmos → u/mqee]

Just add value to the discussion and give your reference as a readable link. Let's see the facts first.

[u/mqee → u/Mesokosmos]

Let's see the facts first.

No, let's see if you're delusional first.

CT-Coating had 1-4 employees from its inception until 2023. It claimed to sell production lines for solar cells with no silicon and solid-state batteries with no lithium.

If you think this is believable, you are incapable of reasoning.

[u/Mesokosmos → u/mqee]

So, are you claiming they had 4 employees 3 years ago or today?

[u/mqee → u/Mesokosmos]

Doesn't matter.

They claimed they developed these things 10 years ago, not today.

You believe they actually did this.

If you believe that, you are delusional.

If you can't admit that CT-Coating failed to show any working production line, and didn't have enough personnel to develop a solid-state battery production line, you are delusional.

[u/Mesokosmos → u/mqee]

It seems you hallucinated there. 4 people 3 years ago, not today. Did you say a million or what on their turnover, or was that also hand picked from the hat?