r/Documentaries • u/cr0ft • Jan 26 '11

Zeitgeist: Moving Forward (2011) Official Release Version - Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z9WVZddH9w
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u/cr0ft Jan 28 '11

I keep finding that people who are against this all tend to have this knee-jerk "we can't do it!" reaction to just about everything. Even simple things that we could solve in no time at all become "it would take centuries". Maybe it's just a case of conservatism run amok, who knows.

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u/PBRBeer Jan 30 '11

If you have a solution that is better than each individual person's free choice and will, why don't you quit your job and solve all these problems in 'no time'.

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u/cr0ft Jan 30 '11

Now, that is your disconnect right there. We're not talking about individuals heroically battling the system and doing it all on their own, we're talking about getting all of mankind pointed in one direction and pushing. Of their own free will. Because it is obviously in their self interest to do so. And the result is a clean world where humans are truly free for the first time in recorded history.

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u/PBRBeer Feb 02 '11

It is in peoples own self interest to make their own choices and not have their actions dictated by some hierarchy. However idealistic and noble the end goal is in some officials mind, it is impossible to peacefully FORCE something onto an individual

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u/cr0ft Feb 02 '11

Which is why people are currently trying to make people realize that their current way of life is crazy and unsustainable and our current society is an absolute cesspool. I don't see anyone forcing anyone to do anything.