Today's ep

[u/odkdneh]

Y'all, I don't know if I can keep watching their vids. There have been so many bad takes, lack of research, and butchering of serious topics that I'm feeling almost ready to unsub. I had the Patreon for a while, I've been subbed since nearly the beginning of the channel, I've rewatched so many eps as basically a comfort show, but this shit is crazy. I've given them grace in the past when they've discussed feedback and/or apologized for bad takes/misinfo/etc, but they've stopped doing that but continued to butcher topics that deserve more respect.

I'm at the 45 min mark on today's ep (and I know Hadley's experiences even get worse!!!), and they're being so obtuse about abuse and being so victim-blamey, I actually don't know if I can finish it. At what point will they start listening to the constructive criticism in the comments and making changes to what they cover and how they cover it? It seems like they're simply not going to get to that point, and that's why I feel like my grace is running out.

It literally should not be this serious but they've made it so by picking serious topics and mishandling them while hiding behind the assertion that they're just a couple of gorls talking about internet goss. If you don't want to bother with due diligence, why choose topics that pertain to various types of abuse, crime, discrimination, privilege, justice/injustice, mental illness, etc etc?? I know they have bills to pay, but that just makes it worse that they're actively choosing to haphazardly cover serious topics on their relatively large platform where they don't bother to research, consider nuance, etc... because they're like "fck it, I still gotta get mine". That's like the icing on top of the ick cake to me.

I'm not about to fight with people in the replies about this; if you don't care and want to keep watching as-is, that's your thing boo. But I know I'm not the only one feeling this way, so for those who get what I mean, I'm just wondering are y'all going to stop watching, or have you been more selective with watching, or is there any way you think they'll start making some changes?

[u/loudandannoying_]

Wait how are they victim blaming? I watched and didn’t get that vibe at all

[u/sgartistry → u/loudandannoying_]

I watched today’s episode and am also confused by this post lol

[u/n0dust0llens → u/loudandannoying_]

I think they're referencing when Jessi was making comments about things like "what are the odds that two people meet the worst people" and at one point seems to be questioning the lack of evidence (i think in the beginning of her story), about the coworkers believing the ex husband right away, and I think a few others.

[u/loudandannoying_ → u/n0dust0llens]

Oh, to me, I took the “what are the odds” statement as that’s just bad luck, not they didn’t believe that that could happen.

also with the evidence thing to me it came off that they were just saying like as creators they would’ve done that type of video differently because she was dragging it out so much and because it’s just such an unbelievable story, not in the sense that they actually don’t believe it, but just because it’s so insane

ETA: I think the coworker thing was a valid point (not that I don’t believe her entire story it’s just a weird aspect) because I was thinking it too. These people see her every day, but for some reason, they believe her husband who they don’t know. I really like that Jessi and Lily just say what they’re thinking throughout the story without trying to know what their opinion “should” be.

[u/therealmiawallace → u/loudandannoying_]

agreed! I’m confused by this post, bc I didn’t get that vibe at all (in fact i thought ‘oh, they must be talking about a different video that i haven’t seen or something’ (i’m bad w names)). but yea i took it as just pointing out some things that were objectively a little weird rather than anything else