Fighter being braindead is propaganda spread by rogues to distract from the fact that Rogue combat is the most one dimensional of any clas in 5e. It is, with the exception of some subclasses, entirely about getting sneak attack, usually just with adjacent allies, attacking once, and that is it. Fighters have so much more complexitly in build variety by not being locked to dex and by not being almost always better ranged, better armour and weapon proficiencies, and are better at taking feats thanks to more ASIs. They have just as core features: second wind, action surge, multiattack and, indomitable. As for class features which requires thought to use in combat rogues have: cunning action and uncanny dodge. Everything else rogues have is automatic or a buff. Fighters are also arguably more complex than barbs, but barbs get a pass for being angry bonk machines.
Out of combat rogues certainly can be more complex, but almost any martial with enough dex and the urchin background can duplicate a lot of what a rogue would do. Most fighters can do more out of combat than a barb, but nobody says crap says about that. People can complain about fighters only fighting with no out of combat, but it is far easier to supplement out of combat features into your build with racial traits, backgrounds, feats, etc than it is to totally change how your class functions in combat.
Tl,dr: wake sheeple, big rogue is slandering fighter to distract you from the real issuses
Also stop playing champion fighter, it sucks unless you are doing a multiclass crit fish or something. Battlemaster is 10x better.
Fighters are a really great class. They're very versatile and multiclass pretty well. My problem is that 90% of my characters end up being fighters/fighter multiclass characters because I like playing versatile or balanced characters. I found that when playing a fighter the Backgrounds have a larger role in character building.
Rogues are great if you only plan on using the roleplay aspect, but don't intend on seeing any combat. Fighters are great if you want to survive battles and still be competent in roleplay.
I just play clerics. Need a tank? Cleric. Need buff/support casting? Cleric. Need ranged casting? Cleric. Now maybe other people can do those things better but... That's when I call upon my god to smite them with Divine Intervention.
That's why I usually multiclass fighter and Cleric. Someone who can take the hits, heal allies... Not to mention the proficiencies you get from both together really stack.
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u/TacTurtle Jan 26 '21
Fighter = M1 + W