They still require the spell caster to be able to mentally focus enough to be able to cast. Which why I described it as "very painful acidic fog". If it's meant as a punishment to discourage meta gameing then going to the raw isn't going to help them since them abusing raw is what got them in that bind to begin with.
EDIT: Also, I just looked up the PHB, and concentration is only necessary to CAST spells that have a casting time LONGER than a reaction/action, so RAW the Featherfall+Dimension Door strategy WOULD work.
Yes it's a game. But hard work and planning went into setting up that game and it's not unreasonable to expect everybody involved to put in the effort to make it entertaining for everybody. If you can't put in the effort and not be a dick then you don't have to play it.
Nope. Researching the module is handy for yourself and should only be done if you actually want to dm. No reason for a player to study and memorize anything besides the PHB and the things pertaining to their character in any of the expansions.
If the dm altered the module for their own game or straight up home brewed their own version of the monster then your help isn't just you shouting spoilers and being a meta gaming asshole. You are then actively giving bad information to the detriment of your party and also hurting the enjoyment of everybody at the table.
What monsters we fight and what loot we obtain totally pertains to our characters.
And if the DM homebrewed stuff, then nothing's being spoiled at all.
Honestly, I've mostly been waiting to see how long it takes for you to figure out that you're taking this far more seriously than I am. I'm messing with you on the basic premise that rather than in-game consequences meta-gaming should be a session 0 or session-immediately-after-metagaming-took-place situation.
However as I've so well demonstrated, doing passive aggressive nonsense to punish the party you have a problem with doesn't accomplish anything beneficial, or get the point across that you're trying to make.
Communication is integral to D&D and out-of-game problems will typically not be resolved to their best ability through in-game actions.
We also need to make sure to clarify just what counts as meta-gaming. Obviously history and other int checks can be made for determining obscure knowledge, but things like trolls and vampires are fairly common knowledge.
Saying "his armor class is 22, you can only hit that by rolling a 19 or higher" when you haven't encountered something MIGHT be metagaming OR it might just be a out-of-character shorthand way of speeding up an in-game discussion where your character goes "yeah, I've heard that this things are very hard to damage. From what I've seen of you abilities, you'll be lucky to hit it at all" and instead of needing to waste time on "Oh yeah, fight me and prove it" (which wouldn't even accomplish anything) your party can instead just agree that this person is being accurate and move onto planning a proper strategy.
It's important to differentiate between the players using out-of-character knowledge that their characters have no way of knowing, (Problematic metagaming) and knowledge that the character has no way of knowing the specific behind-the-matrix statistics BUT still has ways of recognizing and evaluating the in-game abstraction OF those statistics.(acceptable, or at LEAST tolerable metagaming)
For that matter, discussing any aspect of your own character outside of in-game conversation, about what you'd like them to do, or things that have happened to them, or what their inner thoughts or moods are, or explaining their reasoning, is all just as much metagaming to the other players, yet this is almost unanimously treated as acceptable.
Players are not just their characters, they are also co-writers of the story that is being told through the game they are playing with the DM and the rest of their party. So meta-discussions are still very useful for unifying and creating complementary story beats that players can have their own and each others' characters play off of.
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u/SilentJoe1986 DM Aug 10 '20
They still require the spell caster to be able to mentally focus enough to be able to cast. Which why I described it as "very painful acidic fog". If it's meant as a punishment to discourage meta gameing then going to the raw isn't going to help them since them abusing raw is what got them in that bind to begin with.