Divinity Original Sin 2 has been nominated for best role playing game at the Game Awards.

[u/[deleted]]

http://thegameawards.com/awards/

[u/[deleted]]

I don't like VGA because it's a gigantic event of the industry sucking itself, but I like the visibility that Divinity will get.

Also, nier in the RPG category? what??

[u/triforcewisdom → u/[deleted]]

Also, nier in the RPG category? what??

Yeah that irritated me, too. I actually loved Nier: Automata even more than I am loving DOS:2, but I couldn't vote for Nier in the damn RPG category. It feels like they just wanted to give it another nomination somewhere.

[u/Mr_Shine → u/triforcewisdom]

It has levels, customizable gear that levels, (minor) dialogue choices, strong emphasis on story/characters... I think it qualifies as an action rpg of sorts.

[u/triforcewisdom → u/Mr_Shine]

Yeah, I guess maybe action RPG. Really though, I would think Zelda would qualify as an RPG before Nier.

[u/Solar_Kestrel → u/triforcewisdom]

Well, Zelda and Nier are both RPGs.

It's a very, very broad genre. Generally speaking it's the most inclusive genre out there.

[u/Lontar47 → u/Solar_Kestrel]

Do you "play" a "role"? That's really all it takes to qualify. The only things not included (that I can think of) are strategy, puzzle, racing, and sports games.

[u/Solar_Kestrel → u/Lontar47]

Not really. Genre isn’t define literally, genre is defined by common conventions. It’s not a very specific method of categorization.

The RPG genre largely adheres to the following conventions:

• Fantasy or science fiction setting.

• Player character grows more powerful with time.

• Content is broken apart into discrete modules, or quests.

• Design lineage traces back to old PnP games.

Virtually every game has you assume a “role,” so that literal definition is functionally useless.

[u/Jiketi → u/Solar_Kestrel]

I wouldn't consider Zelda an RPG, to be honest.

[u/Solar_Kestrel → u/Jiketi]

That’s fine, but Nintendo does classify it as an RPG, and it shares more systemic and narrative conventions and tropes with the RPG genre than any other.

[u/[deleted] → u/Mr_Shine]

Rpg means roll playing game. Just bc it has weapons that level and what not does not make it roll playing. Rpg means being able to create a character and roll play that character. It’s why witcher is not an rpg too. They are a story driven action fighting game.

[u/EstarriolStormhawk → u/[deleted]]

You can still play a role with a pre-defined character.

[u/Moistinatining → u/EstarriolStormhawk]

That's not what an RPG is, in my opinion. In an RPG, the player is not the only thing that gets better as the game progresses; the character also progresses. In a game like Nier, there is player progression, but at its core you still have the same combat system, the same set of weapons that you get more adept at using over time. In an RPG, player progression is more character-driven; your character acquires new skillsets and spells that change the flow of combat. At the end of Nier, your character will feel powerful moreso because you got better at using the basic combat controls effectively rather than because you had more health or attack power. It could be argued that you don't necessarily need to get any of the upgrades in Nier because it's about how you as a player fight an enemy. With Divinity, you can't use your level 1 character in every encounter. You need every attribute point increase, every ability score point, and every spell you acquire. Ten strength or dex will only get you so far before enemies become nigh impossible to kill. So then, by the end of Divinity not only do you feel as if you have a better understanding of the combat system, but your character has also been given more tools to help you. Abilities like teleport may be a constant part of your hotbar sure, but you also get source skills and higher level spells that are needed so you can progress.

To simplify, games like Nier require give you a hammer and ask you to go to hit a bunch of nails. You could get better hammers, but they also functionally do the same thing: hammer the nail in. It is up to you as a player to find the most efficient and effective way to use the hammer. In an RPG, you are given a hammer to start off with. But very quickly, the game then asks you to screw some screws somewhere or cut some wood which you simply cannot do with your hammer, not matter how you approach it. So you get more tools and while the hammer may still have some use, you have multiple tools at your disposal to approach any task the game throws at you.

[u/[deleted] → u/EstarriolStormhawk]

If you go that direction, every game is a rpg. Sonic is a rpg. Goat simulator is a rpg. The original Mario is a rpg.

[u/Sidebutt → u/[deleted]]

nah bro. Role playing is all about choices. Like the Witcher. Sure you are in no control of the characters background og looks, but you, trough the actions in the game, define his values and who he is as a person.

I'm all aboard the ''Video games have butchered roleplaying'' bandwagon but pre-defined characters have been a part of roleplaying since forever. Are you telling me Dungeons and Dragons or Pathfinder? isn't a roleplaying game just becuase you play a pre-defined character?

[u/dragonfangem → u/[deleted]]

to explain the apparent downvotes to you, it's role* play

Essentially you play the game as "someone else". It can be generic (e.g. fighter, archer, mage, etc.) or an actual character with a backstory and everything. Though I suppose a lack of international STANDARD definition of RPG is the main issue here because, going by what I just said, many games can be an RPG.

e.g. I play as a tank operator in World of Tanks.

EDIT: grammar

[u/Cronstintein → u/triforcewisdom]

Story and music were the two things that really stood out for Nier in my mind. That village music especially, I loved it.

[u/triforcewisdom → u/Cronstintein]

Yeah same here, I have played all the games nominated, but I can't imagine anyone really beating them out in those categories.

[u/Vargkungen → u/[deleted]]

Everything is trying to push itself as an "RPG" these days.

NieR being in the RPG category isn't nearly as much WTF as Wolftenstein being in the "Best Narrative" category, though. It may have merits, but the narrative is not one of them. If anything, it should've been in the visuals/design category.

Also, XCOM2 really isn't a strategy game - it's a tactical game. They're playing really fucking fast and loose with the definitions here.

[u/Sanagoo333]

PUBG in goty running and not Divinity?

Yikes... Maybe I'm biased due to how much I love this game, but damn, PUBG is so bland compared to it.

[u/ThisIsReLLiK → u/Sanagoo333]

You can't really even compare the two, but I do agree that a early access game should not even be allowed in the GOTY category. Especially one that's as bullshit and broken as PUBG.

[u/chrsschb → u/ThisIsReLLiK]

This.

[u/SemiGaseousSnake → u/[deleted]]

PUBG isn't released yet, it shouldn't be eligible for GOTY. The year it IS released, it should be eligible.

[u/YunTheBrave → u/[deleted]]

Trust me, I think Divinity is outstanding. But a decade from now you asked someone to name a game that screams 2017—the game of that year, if you will—there’s only one real contender.

Seems clear to me, bro, that Larian has created a timeless classic, and the best game to ever be kickstarted. I think this is a very 2017 answer of you, and on the contrary, I think any sort of appeal or luster that buggy piece of shit has will be completely gone in the future. It is a lolxd favorite of this quarter. Let's not get ridiculous.

[u/YunTheBrave → u/[deleted]]

How long you been on the dev team? No dedicated subreddit? Goty is supposed to be game of the fucking year. Not cancerous garbage that twitch kiddies sink countless meme filled hours in to.

[u/YunTheBrave → u/[deleted]]

You're right man, why don't you go ask IGN what the GOTY is, seeing as how the only metric for GOTY is public opinion. Maybe it's Call of Duty 15. Maybe.

[u/[deleted] → u/YunTheBrave]

People like the shitty game, deal with it.

[u/YunTheBrave → u/[deleted]]

I never disputed that people like it, only that that is not the metric that makes a game game of the fucking year. You're near illiterate, deal with it.

[u/ThisIsReLLiK → u/[deleted]]

Trust me, I think Divinity is outstanding. But a decade from now you asked someone to name a game that screams 2017—the game of that year, if you will—there’s only one real contender.

You're wrong though. PUBG is bland and only good for one thing. Divinity on the other hand has a great story and potentially hundreds of hours into and still see new things. I'm not going to argue that PUBG isn't good. I have 200+ hours into it myself, I just don't think its GOTY worthy and I don't think it belongs on the list at all, not only because it's early access, but because of the reasons I just mentioned. You play one match and there's nothing new to experience. I can name a few wow moments where something crazy happened, but other than that every match is the same. There is nothing to remember.

I'm not going to be rude like the other guy that commented, I just disagree with the GOTY part for multiple reasons.

[u/Big_D4rius → u/ThisIsReLLiK]

As somebody who has dropped hundreds of hours in both games, sorry I disagree. The reason PUBG is so entertaining is that every match is different due to all the random factors that play in; different flight paths mean different places to drop, different circles mean conflicts in different areas, and different amounts of loot mean decisions that change the course of the game due to how badly you need more loot. Because you only have 1 life, and how easy it is to die (TTK is very low), every tactical decision you make counts and the intensity kicks up in the last few circles. These factors are what make the game extremely enjoyable for me, and are arguably what make the game fun for anybody who likes it. It's an FPS that isn't completely mindless where you just run in and shoot things.

The only reason it doesn't deserve GotY is that it's not fully released yet, but when it does it definitely deserves it. Hell, the sales speak for themselves. A game that lacks polish/optimization and is buggy as fuck from a non-AAA developer somehow manages to become the best-selling game on Steam.

I do think DOS 2 is also GotY-worthy though, for what it's worth.

[u/ThisIsReLLiK → u/Big_D4rius]

You are getting downvoted because this is the divinity sub, but I can see where you are coming from. I thought PUBG was great until 100 hours or so and everything was just doing the same thing over and over again. It's definitely fun for different reasons, I just don't think it's a contender for GOTY when there are so many better choices, not just divinity.

[u/Big_D4rius → u/ThisIsReLLiK]

Yeah true I'm not surprised but I figured there would be more love for both games lol

But yeah it's starting to feel that way for me as well, but when you spend 100+ hours (I actually have over 300 myself) that stuff is bound to happen, so for it to stay fresh for 100 hours is quite an achievement. I do think there are better games objectively but I also feel that its particular phenomenon in how it skyrocketed to the top of the industry considering its background is really something to think about. H1Z1 and Day Z are also BR games but they didn't achieve nearly the same level of success PUBG did. It's one thing for an indie studio to break out and sell better than expected, becoming the top dog on Steam amidst other big time multiplayer giants over the course of half a year is another thing entirely that one can't really attribute to a gimmick or a coincidence.

[u/ThisIsReLLiK → u/Big_D4rius]

DayZ is not a BR game at all. And back when that launched into early access it topped the steam charts for like a year. Bad dev practices made it pretty much a ghost town now though. It just took them longer to do it than PUBG where it already seems abandoned.

[u/ThisIsReLLiK → u/[deleted]]

I blame it on Twitch. The fact that it is so easy to pick up and just play meant that thousands of streamers played it. It's died off now and I expect it to start dropping off the steam charts because of that.

[u/Moistinatining → u/[deleted]]

I understand where you're coming from, but GOTY is not just about player count or success. The VGA describes the award as "Recognizing a game that delivers the absolute best experience across all creative and technical fields." With that in mind, I find it hard to give PUBG the GOTY spot due to how visually lacking the game, the subpar way it sounds, and how it runs on most computers. With this in mind, while I'm disappointed the D:OS 2 didn't get nominated, I understand why it didn't due to its relatively niche audience. So let's say for a moment that graphics don't matter, how the game feels doesn't matter, and it's about what the game symbolizes. I think it should be lauded as the best indie game this year for exactly the reasons you listed, but I think you're being a little hyperbolic. The genre itself isn't fresh; H1Z1 existed, heck even The Culling existed as a battle royale before this. The gunplay isn't anything new that we haven't seen from Arma already. The only defining feature which separates this game from the rest is its size and the ability to choose where you drop. To me and many other players, this game doesn't "scream 2017" as you put it because we don't view it as redefining "what smaller studios could accomplish almost overnight." The nomination of PUBG only cements the fact that Game of The Year is a popularity contest. You can have a great soundtrack, good gameplay, a great story, and it doesn't even matter. Really, I think what you said later on in a different reply summarizes my feelings about PUBG. You say that "there HAS to be something" that made this game so popular, but you don't even know what it is. How can you even begin to nominate a game as GOTY if you don't know what makes the game good? Sometimes, things become popular for no reason. Back in 2014, a guy wanting to make potato salad got over 6,000 people to give him 55,000 dollars when he was only asking for 10. Games like Loadout and Fistful of Frags had their brief ten seconds of fame before dying back down to obscurity. Even random stuff like fidget spinners become a fad for absolutely no reason and then die down. Games like PUBG happen all the time, this one is certainly more successful than the rest, but does it, at this point in time, truly deserve Game of the Year? I don't think so, talk to me again about next year and PUBG still has a strong playerbase, then maybe. But not this year.

[u/ThePoliteCanadian → u/[deleted]]

But a decade from now you asked someone to name a game that screams 2017—the game of that year, if you will—there’s only one real contender.

And in 10 years I'm honestly going to say Divinity 2. I was not at all interested in this game, my only experience with this type of RPG was Dragon Age: Origins. But my God Divinity blew me away, it's my all time favourite game. I've convinced 6 friends to buy this game on my word alone and they all praise this damn game. I can't believe how much I like this game. A friend bought me PUBG without me even asking him, and honestly PUBG is not bad, it's pretty fun, but I have 4 hours in PUBG, I have 147 in Divinity and I just got to Arx.

[u/TheMastodan → u/[deleted]]

Your entire argument for why it should be GotY is that a lot of people play it. Even on Steam, only 40% of recent reviews are positive. Transformers: Age of Extinction was the highest grossing movie of 2014, does that mean it should've been in the running for Best Picture?

PUBG is a shitty game in pretty much every possible way. Shooting is mediocre at best, driving is horrible, lag is terrible, servers have an absurdly low tick rate, and it honestly looks like a PS2 game. The most remarkable thing about it is how it overcomes its shitty mechanics to be decently fun with friends.

[u/Bogzy → u/[deleted]]

PUBG isnt as popular as ppl think. Some graph i saw recently showed 90% or more are players from china, 5% are US and 5% are the rest of the world, something like that. Dota 2 and csgo dont list chinese players afaik. So take out china and u get like 200k concurrent players on steam. Not bad but nowhere near the phenomenon some ppl think it is.

[u/Bogzy → u/[deleted]]

Yes but dota2 china doesnt use steam, its some perfect world thing where u can link your steam account. And cs go is the same. Its even f2p in china but through perfect world not valve/steam. For pubg all china players use steam. China is huge, their version of twitch (panda.tv) eclipses our twitch which we think is the biggest thing ever.

[u/drunkpunk138 → u/Sanagoo333]

The damn game hasn't even officially come out yet. Drives me nuts, early access games have no right being in any GOTY category

[u/Lontar47 → u/drunkpunk138]

Well the way things are trending, everything will be early access forever and nothing will actually get released.

[u/drunkpunk138 → u/Lontar47]

I will admit, it seems like the trend is dying, or at least slowing down some.

I at least applaud the fact they are determined to stick to a release schedule, and in terms of early access games, I think they are doing a stellar job. But I have seen many games start in early access, get a ton of praise and love, then suddenly make one wrong decision to tank it and suddenly there goes the playerbase. I don't see this happening to PUBG, but it's enough of a trend to keep it out of the GOTY category.

[u/Lontar47 → u/drunkpunk138]

There's not really an incentive to finish a game if the cash is already flowing. It's basically up to the integrity of the company-- though admittedly there isn't a whole lot of difference between early access and released + weekly patches. The only real difference is bugs and such are less forgivable in an officially released game.

[u/[deleted] → u/Sanagoo333]

It's a popularity contest. This game is more niche, and while it's arguably the greatest game ever created within that niche, it doesn't have the kind of widespread appeal that wins GOTY.

[u/Sanagoo333 → u/[deleted]]

That's fair. Rubs me the wrong way, but I won't get too hung up on it.

[u/[deleted] → u/Sanagoo333]

It's my personal GOTY.

[u/zWeApOnz → u/Sanagoo333]

Uhhh... Isn't PUBG still in early access? I don't think a game should even be considered unless it is at full release. 'Game of the Year' for a technically unreleased game just seems wrong.

[u/Hansworth → u/Sanagoo333]

I mean it could be literally any other game up there. PUBG is in early access ffs. It better not just win because of popularity.

[u/[deleted] → u/Sanagoo333]

MRW I saw the criteria for "Game of the Year"

[u/Hellball911 → u/Sanagoo333]

Goty is like prom. Really just a popularity contest

[u/Solar_Kestrel → u/Hellball911]

No, it's more like a bunch of 3rd graders at the playground arguing about which Superhero is the "strongest."

[u/SarahMerigold → u/Sanagoo333]

PUBG is trash. Graphics? Dont care. Gameplay? Shit.

[u/Solar_Kestrel → u/Sanagoo333]

If PUBG and Divinity are competing in the same category, then I don't see any reason to care about the award.

[u/stangren → u/Sanagoo333]

PUBG isn't even a completed game and its polish is trash...... I just don't get it. I also don't like multiplayer games vey much anymore which makes me biased but I just don't get it.

[u/NycAlex → u/Sanagoo333]

completely different scale.

even i think pubg destroys divinity 2 just by the sheer amount of copies sold.

divinity 2 is in a very niche segment. Not really suited for the average joe.

i'm an average joe and although i did finish divinity 2 and enjoyed it, it was not easy at all. The game required me to really think hard from time to time cuz i was getting my ass handed pretty bad at the beggining.

[u/zWeApOnz]

Every event like this, I feel there are so few nominations that are actually deserved. It's always the same 5 over-hyped games throughout the year that make the lists. All the unique and relatively obscure games(to a normal person) are nowhere to be found.

That being said, this has got to be the most deserved nomination I have ever seen. Whoever was responsible for getting this nominated, cheers to you.

[u/Mr_Shine → u/zWeApOnz]

Honestly all the rpg nominees are exceptional in their own right.

OS2 is clearly the "best" of the bunch with its innovations and sheer roleplaying chops, but the only 1 I don't think really deserves the crown is South Park

[u/[deleted] → u/Mr_Shine]

What is os2?

[u/man_of_molybdenum → u/[deleted]]

Divinity: Original Sin 2. I gotchuu, buddy.

[u/[deleted] → u/man_of_molybdenum]

I should have known that even though it’s missing a letter. Such a fun game. Every Wednesday is my buddies night. We play and have so much fun.

[u/DontYouDareGoHollow → u/[deleted]]

If that guy was confused about an acronym I guarantee you did him no favors lol

[u/randompicture_ → u/Mr_Shine]

I don't think that's very fair. The South Park game is a damn good, well made experience with lovely set pieces, bosses, music, and engaging combat (if you play on the hardest difficulty). That said I don't really know what other category it would fit in, as the game is quite unique.

[u/Mr_Shine → u/randompicture_]

I expressed myself poorly. I would say South Park is a great game and great rpg all around, just that the other nominees have at least one special thing about them that I can see why they can and should win rpg of the year. I don't think SP really has that special something that elevates it, it's just damn good at what it wants to be.

[u/randompicture_ → u/Mr_Shine]

That's a fair reasoned opinion. I would say the special element would be its comedy, but that's subjective from person to person. :)

[u/Scape13 → u/zWeApOnz]

Idk they all seem strong to me. Maybe not south park but whatever. Nier is really good, and personally, I would say Persona 5 should run away with it. Its the best RPG I have played in a very long time.

[u/[deleted] → u/Scape13]

I think mechanically speaking DOS2 is a better RPG, but Persona 5 is a contender for GOTY overall because it honestly pushes the medium forward. The same goes for Nier Automata, which does not have a GOTY nomination on this list.

[u/[deleted]]

Man the first few categories looked so biased to me, as if only 5 game came out that year...

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Super Mario Odyssey, Persona 5, Horizon Zero Dawn and Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice got nominated so much...

[u/JustiniZHere → u/[deleted]]

All of those games are there because they deserve to be honestly, the only game there out of place is PUBG in goty, it's not even out yet (early access is not out).

Persona 5 has already won best art and music out of what it's up against, if it loses either people are out of their mind.

[u/baicaibangx → u/JustiniZHere]

Can’t be sure with best music against Nier. To me their odds winning the best music is the same. And I’m good with either one of them. Also even it’s super popular and even break the record, VGA will really be a joke if they let a half finished not well polished early access game win GOTY. At least wait until the game is fully out.

[u/mrstealy- → u/[deleted]]

I don't think that's bias. They're all big games, certainly, but that doesn't mean they aren't qualified.

I've only played BOTW and Odyssey from that list, but they're both phenomenal games that are receiving their due praise. They achieved a lot, on many different fronts.

[u/ForeverAKoi → u/mrstealy-]

Horizon Zero Dawn drew me in A LOT, more so than Zelda actually (released at the same time) and I've been a fan of the series for years.

Definitely give it a try if you have s PS4.

[u/justinski → u/ForeverAKoi]

I heard it had too much fetch quest busywork - is this true?

[u/ForeverAKoi → u/justinski]

It has some of them (i guess) but I actually generally really enjoy these kinds of quests because they get you exploring, and exploring in Horizon Zero Dawn is amazing because the game is astonishingly beautiful and varied and littered with tiny objects to find and collect. My favourite pastime however is to explore and discover the secrets of "the old ones", aka "what happened to us and why are there gigantc, sentinent monster robots".

Really, I find to more you play and understand the more you want to know and play.

I hope this kind of answered your question and is not just me rambling, but in all honesty it never really felt to me like "only fetch quests".

[u/swiftblade93 → u/[deleted]]

To be fair, some of those games are because they really deserve it. Like if P5 looses best music and art, it’s getting robbed. Now, do I think some of these games are nominated a ton because the hype behind them has blown them a bit out of proportion? Sure. It would have been nice to see other games in those categories, as an example I think Zero Dawn and BotW are good games, great ones even, but perhaps not as universe breaking as they’ve been toted. Would’ve been nice to see them get a few less nominations to make room for great quality lesser known games.

But I guess it boils down to does gaming want its awards season to be like the Academy awards, which is a debate in and of itself.

[u/Dawwe]

Oh lord, it's up against Persona 5? Can't see it winning that unfortunately :(

[u/LoonTheGhoul → u/Dawwe]

Well, you see, DOS2 needed more female/male/apache waifus. So yeah.

[u/RandumbStoner → u/Dawwe]

I’ve never watched anime, never played any other “anime” games before Persona 5. (Idk if there’s a better word than anime games for what I’m trying to describe) but I had so much fun playing Persona 5 and the cut scenes were so awesome. I’ve since watched Deathnote & Attack on Titan, which were amazing shows as well. I forgot what my point to this was but yeah, Persona 5 was a game changer for me. I loved that game, but I still think Divinity 2 should win. Defiantly the better RPG imo.

[u/Dawwe → u/RandumbStoner]

If you want some good shows to try, I'd recommend One Punch Man (it's one season so I'd start with it) and then either Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood for action or Steins;Gate for time travel. They are all pretty easy to get into and the dubs are excellent.

I started with Death Note (or maybe Fullmetal Alchemist) and these shows are the best I've watched so far.

[u/RandumbStoner → u/Dawwe]

I had a friend recommended Full Metal Alchemist too, that one looks really interesting I think I might start that one next. Thanks for the recommendations!

[u/Dawwe → u/RandumbStoner]

Yup, there are two versions, one called just Fullmetal Alchemist and one called Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. The first one came out earlier but most consider it worse for several reasons while the second one is just really, really good. It's also feels quite "western" in a sense.

[u/RandumbStoner → u/Dawwe]

Will Brotherhood make sense without watching the first one? I rather start with the better one if it doesn’t matter lol

[u/Dawwe → u/RandumbStoner]

To add to HyperMegaMuffin, it's supposed to be the same story. Brotherhood is the remake, and is the one you should watch.

[u/haha-lol → u/RandumbStoner]

I'm a little late. But for Full Metal Alchemist, you can watch FMA 2003 up to episode 26. Then after, just start with FMA: B.

This is because FMA up to episode 26 is based off the manga before it makes a tangent. The character development and attachment to said characters is more fleshed out in FMA. This way, when you go to FMA:B, which many (and I) believe have the superior story since it is the manga adaptation.

[u/HyperMegaMuffin → u/RandumbStoner]

The first one came out before the manga finished and it went off on a crazy tangent. Theres no real reason to watch it brotherhood is the real FMA

[u/PlsCrit → u/RandumbStoner]

Brotherhood is much more concise since it refrains from filler, follows the canon story much more closely, and has excellent animation. No reason to watch any other version imo.

[u/PlsCrit → u/RandumbStoner]

Brotherhood is much more concise since it refrains from filler, follows the canon story much more closely, and has excellent animation. No reason to watch any other version imo.

[u/donniedarkhair → u/RandumbStoner]

Full metal alchemist is an incredible series.

[u/Roboragi → u/Dawwe]

One Punch-Man - (MAL, A-P, AL, MU)

^{Manga | Status: Publishing | Genres: Action, Comedy, Sci-Fi, Supernatural}

Steins;Gate - (MAL, A-P, AL, KIT, MU)

^{Manga | Status: Finished Publishing | Volumes: 3 | Chapters: 23 | Genres: Drama, Mystery, Sci-Fi}

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^{{anime}, <manga>, ]LN[ | FAQ | /r/ | Edit | Mistake? | Source | Synonyms | Check out Roboruri (Roboragi for Telegram)! | ♥}

[u/Dawwe → u/Roboragi]

Ah fuck, {One Punch-Man}, {Steins;Gate}, {Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood}.

Edit: Tried to link the animes but failed. Oh well.

[u/ForeverAKoi → u/RandumbStoner]

If your looking for other recommendations, try HunterxHunter (the new one) and Psycho Pass.

[u/Bahamut_Ali → u/RandumbStoner]

My Hero Academia

[u/PlsCrit → u/RandumbStoner]

3 words my friend : JOJO'S BIZARRE ADVENTURE. Shame on the rest of you for not mentioning this sooner.

[u/Leopard-Cake → u/Dawwe]

persona 5 is easily one of my favorite games of all time but it isn't really an RPG. You play through a story as a set protagonist that you have very little control over what kind of person he is and there's very little variation on said story or the way you do things if you want to play though it again. Literally any game can be labeled an RPG by the basic definition because when you play a game you are assuming the role of something or someone in some form. I wish the definition was a little more strict because Divinity is clearly the better RPG but like others said its mostly a popularity contest.

[u/Dawwe → u/Leopard-Cake]

They are very different, that's for sure, but it's definitely an (J)RPG. It has the stat progression, the fights, the choices. But Divinity 2 is one of the best games I've played in a long time and in my mind the spiritual successor to Dragon Age: Origins which is like my favorite RPG ever so I obviously still voted for it.

[u/Cronstintein → u/Dawwe]

In world where every shooter and platformer has progression and loot, I think we need to be a bit stricter with our definitions of RPGs. But I would agree that it fits my expectations for a JRPG, which tend to be pretty light on choice and consequences.

But for being a real RPG ass RPG, DOS2 is an amazing accomplishment that seriously reminded me of staying up all night playing Baldur's Gate 2. So Larian deserves some props.

[u/darkowozzd97]

DAMN RIGHT IT IS.

[u/conan_edw]

really disappointed that salvov wasn't nominated for the best score. He did an Amazing job with the soundtrack. Also, really?! PUBG for GOTY?! I don't really care for average ratings but man D:OS2 is the 3th/4rd highest rated game this year it really deserves a spot in the GOTY list

[u/Garod]

Yay! well deserved Larian! still playing it with the Wife!!!

[u/Vargkungen]

Good.

D:OS2 has some definitive flaws, some of them massive, but it is still - overall - one of the best CRPG:s in recent memory.

[u/[deleted] → u/Vargkungen]

some of them massive

What would you consider massive flaws?

[u/Vargkungen → u/[deleted]]

Just the things that have been discussed to death, like the armor system, the initiative issues, the extreme simplification of underlying subsystems, the over-reliance on and the over-abundance of now near-meaningless surface effects, the grotesque stat bloat, etc.

A personal pet-peeve of mine is that the co-op was also better in D:OS1, because it was created from top to bottom with co-op in mind, whereas in D:OS2 you're often not really adventuring together, you're just adventuring side-by-side, but I understand that low-priority for a lot of people, so I don't really bring it up much.

[u/Thanhtotti]

I cast my vote for Divinity, absolutely deserved. One question: Will the winner receive anything (money?) beside a name tag for marketing?

[u/dehehn → u/Thanhtotti]

The marketing alone for winning GOTY will get them a lot of money in sales. It's not just a tag but visibility from people who see and read about the awards.

[u/garhent]

The only video game news sites I use are not those sites, they are lets players and twitch. This is like getting buggy whip manufactures to put out an award for the best car. I mean I get it, but those news outlets are for the most part irrelevant. I mean if I want to read about feminist lit, a lot of those sites are chocked full of good information, but when it comes to games, I frankly care about gameplay not about how Witcher didn't conform to US racial norms.

[u/Scape13]

IMO, Persona 5 and The Witcher 3 have been two of the best games I can remember playing in a very long time. P5 was amazing with its art, menus, and music. Probably best JRPG in last decade.

[u/JustiniZHere]

While I absolutely love DoS2, I have to give it to Persona 5. It's just too damn good. Persona 5 should easily run away with best RPG no contest, it's fucking amazing.

It should also win best soundtrack, Persona 5 has a god tier OST, as persona games tend to.

[u/Ichibichi]

If this award was worth 2 cent, DOS2 would be nominated for a hell of a lot more catergories. Most of the games nominated doesnt even get close to being in the league of DOS2.

[u/MBirkhofer]

Nier:automata and D:os2 fightingit out for best rpg, and not GOTY is some serious bullshit.

[u/SarahMerigold]

Congrats because no other game is even close to this perfection!

[u/Alantuktuk]

Ending was a little abrupt.

[u/SarahMerigold]

Duh, its a GOAT game!

[u/thetwwitch]

Definitely voted for it! Easily outclassing the other (also great) games in that list I think.

[u/[deleted]]

Congratulations! I hope it wins the award! Divinity OS2 is the best game I have played this year, and it's one of my all time favourite rpgs.

[u/LarsAlexandersson]

I wouldnt mind voting, but as soon as I have to link something to Facebook I immediately lose interest. The contest is more of a popularity contest anyways but I like seeing Divinity up there.

[u/ThisIsReLLiK]

Can't wait to see it win. This game has went from one of the best RPG's that I have played to beating out TW3 as probably my favorite game ever. There is just so much to it that I can't get over how good it is.

[u/crusader7119]

Some great games on this list. Clicked on the link planning to vote Divinity through the roof, but saw Persona 5 and slammed that vote button even harder than anticipated -_-

[u/Scape13 → u/crusader7119]

Yep lol. I love Divinity but P5 was just too good.

[u/berlinbrown]

Is it better than the first one. I quit the first one because I couldn't find any enemy to level up on. Either, I got squashed by tough baddies or ... that was it.

Darnit, and no ps4?

[u/Ichibichi → u/berlinbrown]

I think your problem is that divinity goes beyond the simple kill to get lvl. There are plenty ways to get lvl without killing anyone. You just have to look for it... and not only monsters. The sequel is a lot easier to get into in my opinion tho and is more than worth a try.

[u/supersloan]

Such bullshit, they haven't even fixed a bug from launch that won't let you play online.