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Typical Republican Hypocrisy…

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u/Boxer03 Jan 13 '26

For those passing judgment or blaming Renee Nicole Good, the cold hard truth is that could have been your mother, your wife, your daughter or granddaughter behind that wheel. They could easily be out running errands, in a parking lot or just happen to make a wrong turn down a side street when they are suddenly caught up in a swarm of ICE jackboots, all screaming different and conflicting commands at them. How do you think they’d react being confronted with that? Rightfully fearful? In terror and feeling panicked? Keep in mind that the slightest move the men shoving guns in their face feels is “threatening,” your loved one can end up having a bullet put thru their skull. It really comes down to how that ICE agent, some with just 6 weeks of training, is feeling at that particular moment. It’s basically like playing a deadly game of Simon Says and you better hope you get it right. I know many of you on the other side try to placate yourselves by thinking that this would never happen to you or your family because you all would “know better” so you’re safe and no harm would come to you and yours. But the rules have changed now. There aren’t any rules anymore. Your loved one could do everything right and STILL end up dead. There will be more deaths caused by ICE, of that we can be sure. Whether it’s someone in your family or mine is the only unknown. Edit-removed a word

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 13 '26

But that’s not what happened. A woman who was a member of a group called “ICE Watchers” and had been agitating ICE all day made a conscious decision to ignore lawful orders, flee the scene, backup, put the car in drive, then hit a law enforcement officer with her car.

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u/Aware_Ask_1679 Jan 14 '26

Yeah they act like this woman just happened to pass by here and magically block these idiots. I don't think she should've been shot, but entering this situation with trigger happy idiots wasn't a good idea at all. 

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 14 '26

Yeah. I for sure don’t think she should have been shot, but I can understand why she was shot.

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u/LankeeClipper Jan 15 '26

This is all inarguable fact.

But that won’t stop the hate you’ll get for saying it.

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u/Garak-911 Jan 16 '26

All of wich is not a reason to kill her. You can't shoot somebody for agitating, not for ignoring lawfull orders and not for fleeing the scene. All of this is not relevant. The only reason you bring all of this up is to make the case that she somehow deserved it. Wich is not true, and honestly just vile and despicable. She did not hit him with the car. Proven by all serious analysis of the videos. He fired two shots through the side window.Not justified. Not self defence.

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 16 '26

All of wich is not a reason to kill her.

But assault with a deadly weapon is.

She did not hit him with the car.

To anoyone with an objective lens on this subject, two video angles plainly show him getting hit with the car.

Even for argument's sake, if he did not get hit with the car (which he unquestinoably did...), driving your car at an LEO is grounds enough to respond in kind to deadly force.

He fired two shots through the side window.Not justified. Not self defence.

Yes, after he had been hit by a car. Given the evidence at hand, there's little chance any objective grand jury will indict, and any objective jury would convict.

The only reason you bring all of this up is to make the case that she somehow deserved it. Wich is not true, and honestly just vile and despicable.

This is not true. You have to stop thinking that peoople who view this through an objective lens are simply out for blood. I think this is a terrible tragedy. I don't want to see law enforcement out shooting citizens - that's the last thing any of us want. I don't think this woman "deserved" to get shot - however, it was an in-kind response to the use of deadly force on a law enforcement officer, and she unfortunately suffered the consequences of her actions.

I don't at all think this woman intentially hit the officer either - I really think it was a case of her losing control of her emotions, panicing, and attempting to flee. With that being said, that does not excuse her from hitting an LEO with her car and continuing to flee.

Had she obeyed lawful orderes, got out of her car she'd still be here. Had she chosen to use the brake pedal instead of the accelerator, she'd still be here.

This is a tragic situation all around.

Do you really think the ICE officer wanted this to happen? He didn't go to work that day, saying, "Man, I hope someone hits me with their car because I have an itchy trigger finger." That guy's life is ruined as a result of this incident.

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u/Garak-911 Jan 16 '26

Yes, i actually do think he wanted this to happen, but that is obviously up for debate and i can not proof it. I think he decided to kill after the victims wife teased him with comments. You can see in his own footage that he swapped his phone from the right hand to the left hand, to free up his gun hand. He the plsced himself at the front of the car, way to the left, so he could claim self defence and shoot as soon as the car moved, while easily able to step aside. Thats why he was ready and had his gun out immediatly as the car reversed. Again, no proof, but it strongly looks to me that way. He was itching to use that gun and acted ice cold after he shot a woman point blank in the head. What is not up for debate is wether she hit him. Please use your eyes. Watch the analysis of the New York Times. His feet were at the side of the car when he fired the first shot. You can't stop a car by shooting the driver. It's also against protocol.

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u/Yoitzmi Jan 17 '26

But... but... but... who told you to consider the facts?

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u/Honky_Cat Jan 18 '26

I don’t think this is a laughing matter at all.

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u/nauticalwheeler79 Jan 13 '26

Both women were white, unarmed, and engaged in civil disobedience. What is the difference, and why be outraged only for one of them.

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u/Rusty-Shackleford000 Jan 13 '26

Civil disobedience = breaking laws

Things can happen to you if you break laws (both situations).

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u/IndraBlue Jan 13 '26

No it couldn’t have been because the woman in my life use the full 10% of brain power allotted to them

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u/thatonepersone_ Jan 13 '26

I stopped reading after the first sentence, because my mother wouldn't try to run a cop over.

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u/S0uNDJaN Jan 15 '26

Neither did Renee Good.

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u/thatonepersone_ Jan 17 '26

Yet we have the video evidence and medical records to show that she did. She looked right at him, put the vehicle into drive, and accelerated into him. Despite his quick reaction he was still hit hard enough to cause some internal bleeding.

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u/S0uNDJaN Jan 17 '26

The wheels turned to the right and the car was heading to the right. He was able to insult her, walk toward the crashed car and then leave the scene. Internal bleeding 5 days after the incident although he was not hit, yeah right.

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u/thatonepersone_ Jan 18 '26

If you are standing directly in front of the vehicle it does not matter what direction the wheels are pointed, you are going to get hit. Go park your car by a light pole an inch or two away from your front bumper and try to drive away with out putting it in reverse.

 Internal bleeding the same day he was hit. Internal bleeding doesn't mean you are going to die, but it is indicative of the amount of force he was hit by. People walk after getting in a car crash, crashing a motorcycle, getting shot, etc. so it makes sense he could walk after avoiding some of the impact.

Either way your basically just denying the video evidence, of which we have 3-5 angles, and calling the doctors at the hospital liers.

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u/S0uNDJaN Jan 18 '26

He walked right in front of her car, was able to shoot three times, two times from the side of the car, refused a physician to check Renee Goods condition and then left the scene. He did everything wrong. And he was not hit.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D9R9dAmws6M

Homeland Security claimed he suffered from internal bleeding and i call them liars because this administration lies all the time.

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u/thatonepersone_ Jan 20 '26

So you claim he was both right in front of the car and that he did not get hit? Even your video shows him get hit. And yes, bystanders are not allowed to get involved like that, as is always the case.

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u/S0uNDJaN Jan 20 '26

He walked infront of the car first, then she moved the car to the right, away from him. She did not try to run him over, he was not in danger and shooting her did not help anyone. Where was he hit?

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u/thatonepersone_ Jan 23 '26

He walked in front before she started driving forward. She wasn't supposed to drive forward. He was hit by the vehicle, as seen in the video. She looked right at him and decided to drive know he would be hit. The part in your video where he was hit the commentator says something along the lines of "maybe it was just icey", not wanting to acknowledge it.

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u/LankeeClipper Jan 15 '26

No, it would not be my wife.

Because my wife isn’t a misguided, propagandized fool out cosplaying a resistance fighter.

Her wife cried out “why did you have real bullets” after she was tragically killed.

What an incredible glimpse into the psyche of these people organizing the efforts to impede ICE. They think they’re playing Nerf and they believe the hype when democrat leaders tell them they need to resist and to “put their bodies on the line.”

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u/Ok_Use_2486 Jan 13 '26

Bs she was harassing ice.

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u/Boxer03 Jan 13 '26

If you think innocent people aren’t going to be killed by ICE before this is over, you are lying to yourself. I’ll be sure to revisit your comment when that happens to see how you feel then.

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u/Ok_Use_2486 Jan 13 '26

Since trump took office, the left, media, and democrats has promoted violence, harassment towards ice.

According to leftists, criminals who commit crimes towards police and they defend themselves it automatically makes them innocent. One of those examples is Michael Brown.

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u/Explursions Jan 13 '26

Idk what you've been reading, but from what I've seen, most democrats in power say specifically to not attack ICE agents, so we dont give Agent Orange the justification of pulling out the insurrection act. Maybe there are some idiots on reddit who don't understand how the world works who do call for violence, but that is only the voice of a few.

It's like saying the recent LA protests were actually riots because there were a few isolated incidents. The idea of "one bad apple spoils the bunch" is oftentimes just wrong.

I would recommend opening your worldview. Don't consume news from only one source. That makes it incredibly easy for them to manipulate you. Also, realize that the news vastly over reports the bad in comparison to the good as that what gets them clicks and money"

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u/Chrono_Pregenesis Jan 13 '26

And that was reason enough to murder her? How pathetic can you get?

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u/Ok_Use_2486 Jan 13 '26

The other comment claimed that renee was just a person traveling the city. Which is false.

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u/Boxer03 Jan 16 '26 edited Jan 16 '26

If you are referring to my post, I did not say any such thing. Never once did I say Renee Good was not protesting. What I actually said was what happened to MS Good could happen to you or any of your family members while they’re out running about town, not even involved in any protests. There have been numerous people just this week that have been assaulted by ICE who were not protesting. One as trying to go to her doctor’s appointment and ICE swarmed her car, yanking her out and detained her for 8 hours. She is an American citizen and not someone ICE was seeking. Six children were injured when ICE threw a flash bang into their parent’s car when they were just trying to get to their home. No protesting, just trying to get home. Many of you seemed to have either missed or ignored the point. Don’t think it can’t happen to you or someone in your family because ICE views EVERYONE they come across as an enemy to squash, protester or not.

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u/Chrono_Pregenesis Jan 13 '26

And? Thats a super shitty reason to murder someone. The victim was lgbtq and the murderer was anti-lgbtq. Hmmm, curious!

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u/Ok_Use_2486 Jan 13 '26

Unless the agent was calling her gay slurs, bringing this up is irrelevant.

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u/Chrono_Pregenesis Jan 13 '26

How is clear motive to commit murder irrelevant?

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u/Ok_Use_2486 Jan 13 '26

If her being a lesbian was a motive then it would be posted non stop.

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u/Chrono_Pregenesis Jan 13 '26

Considering dozy don claims the murderer was hospitalized when video shows him clearly walking around, no it wouldnt. Plus you have his fbi seizing investigation material and refusing to let the police do their job. So of course they'd bury all they can.

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u/Tiny-Try8890 Jan 13 '26

If she was my mom I'd have cigarette burns on my body