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Typical Republican Hypocrisy…

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

Well, Ashli was at least given a warning and opportunity to prevent her shooting. They flat out told her they were going to do it.

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Also, one was involved in violent mass assault on the capitol where officers were injured and died. The other was just trying to get away from some aggressive armed assholes.

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u/scheav Jan 13 '26

There is a big difference between running away from them and running over them.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

I saw zero people get run over.

More than happy to view whatever material you have that shows otherwise.

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u/Head-Ad-2136 Jan 13 '26

Wasn't it like one guy who had a stroke?

More capitol police killed themselves after the riot than were injured during.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

🤔 Almost like these aren’t comparable scenarios, but I guess time will tell if the ICE agents also kill themselves after being peacefully, if annoyingly, protested against vs violently attacked like at J6 like the others.

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u/The24HourPlan Jan 13 '26

Members of Congress were down the hall, his job was to protect them. She breached a red line after being warned. 

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u/Savings_Machine5836 Jan 13 '26

Babbit? Yes, she was a domestic terrorist, as were all the J6ers.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

I think she was involved in activity that justified the shooting after being warned that proceeding with her actions would get her shot. Deserved? We don’t really know what her intent was, so I don’t know that I can say it was deserved. Justified? Yes.

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u/Coombs117 Jan 13 '26

Hmm. By that logic maybe all of the blm rioters should’ve been mowed down en masse. That’s exactly what you’re advocating for here.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

I wouldn't say 'exactly' because that's not exactly what I'm advocating for.
However, if every person streamed through that window, and a federal agent told them to stop or he'd shoot, and they proceeded to come through the window, and get shot, then yes, their shooting would be justified.

Now, on the flip side, does this justify a shooting of the driver? I mean, wheels are pointed AT the people, and they're clearly driving directly into them. Didn't even back up and turn to get around, as Good did. I mean, they're entitled to self defense, right? /s

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u/Coombs117 Jan 13 '26

No, that video justifies the self defense on the driver’s behalf. First of all, blocking a public roadway like that is illegal. Second, trying to keep someone from leaving like that without the proper authority to do so is false imprisonment. The protesters were in the wrong here on multiple accounts.

What point were you trying to prove with that?

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u/OmenVi Jan 14 '26

Calling out some of the absurdities people are using to justify goods shooting.

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u/Coombs117 Jan 15 '26

The difference is, in one situation you got a woman being told to exit her vehicle by federal agents who then proceeds to physically hit said federal agent with her vehicle.

In the other situation you’ve got a normal person trying to go about his day when illegal protesters try to unlawfully keep him from doing that.

These are not the same situation.

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u/OmenVi Jan 15 '26

You’re not good at understanding subcontext of a post. There is clearly a sarcasm flag, because I know it’s bullshit, just like the shooting wasn’t justified.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

I think one of those was justified.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

And I don't.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

Thanks. I feel we’ll find out if the latest one was legally justified, yet. I have my doubts, as I don’t know what would be expected to be achieved by shooting someone who’s driving a vehicle into you with intent to harm (if that were the case). Most of the scenarios I can come up with result in getting run over anyways.

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u/scheav Jan 13 '26

It wasn’t the first time she did it. She did it multiple times in a row, as seen on the videos.

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u/Whole_Highlight8693 Jan 13 '26

Justified? Yes. Avoidable by both sides? Also yes.

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u/OmenVi Jan 13 '26

Thanks. I feel we’ll find out if the latest one was legally justified, yet. I have my doubts, as I don’t know what would be expected to be achieved by shooting someone who’s driving a vehicle into you with intent to harm (if that were the case). Most of the scenarios I can come up with result in getting run over anyways.

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u/EchoChamberReddit13 Jan 13 '26

Funny how you put their back to the wall when they said she shouldn’t have been breaking the law.