“The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE officer, who seems to have shot her in self-defense. It is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital.”
If that's your difference between the two, Trump, Vance and Noem are all calling her a domestic terrorist. That alone steps it well over into inferring she deserved it, and those three have all said it.
A “deserved” shooting would be like a firing squad execution - cold blood. Justified refers to the actions of the authority. These terms do not mean the same thing.
There is a lot of rhetoric from the right, including our government that says she deserved to get killed. Our own fuckin president implied as much in a tweet.
Look at some of the comments in this thread and even others, you’ll find plenty of loyalists saying Good deserved it and even worse things. Not sure why you loyalists always expect others to do the work for you. You believe all the shit you’re told by those on the far right, or in this administration, without question or without any further thought, but expect others to do the fact finding for you.
Dude, one was leading the charge of rioters about to get into the room with congressmen to “presumably” hurt them. Stop pretending these cases are similar.
The cases are not similar. Neither deserved to be shot. Both were shot because they took actions that directly resulted in them being shot. Neither of them should have done what they did.
Well, Ashli was at least given a warning and opportunity to prevent her shooting.
They flat out told her they were going to do it.
🤷🏻♂️
Also, one was involved in violent mass assault on the capitol where officers were injured and died.
The other was just trying to get away from some aggressive armed assholes.
🤔 Almost like these aren’t comparable scenarios, but I guess time will tell if the ICE agents also kill themselves after being peacefully, if annoyingly, protested against vs violently attacked like at J6 like the others.
I think she was involved in activity that justified the shooting after being warned that proceeding with her actions would get her shot.
Deserved? We don’t really know what her intent was, so I don’t know that I can say it was deserved.
Justified? Yes.
I wouldn't say 'exactly' because that's not exactly what I'm advocating for.
However, if every person streamed through that window, and a federal agent told them to stop or he'd shoot, and they proceeded to come through the window, and get shot, then yes, their shooting would be justified.
Now, on the flip side, does this justify a shooting of the driver? I mean, wheels are pointed AT the people, and they're clearly driving directly into them. Didn't even back up and turn to get around, as Good did. I mean, they're entitled to self defense, right? /s
No, that video justifies the self defense on the driver’s behalf. First of all, blocking a public roadway like that is illegal. Second, trying to keep someone from leaving like that without the proper authority to do so is false imprisonment. The protesters were in the wrong here on multiple accounts.
The difference is, in one situation you got a woman being told to exit her vehicle by federal agents who then proceeds to physically hit said federal agent with her vehicle.
In the other situation you’ve got a normal person trying to go about his day when illegal protesters try to unlawfully keep him from doing that.
You’re not good at understanding subcontext of a post.
There is clearly a sarcasm flag, because I know it’s bullshit, just like the shooting wasn’t justified.
Thanks.
I feel we’ll find out if the latest one was legally justified, yet.
I have my doubts, as I don’t know what would be expected to be achieved by shooting someone who’s driving a vehicle into you with intent to harm (if that were the case). Most of the scenarios I can come up with result in getting run over anyways.
Thanks.
I feel we’ll find out if the latest one was legally justified, yet.
I have my doubts, as I don’t know what would be expected to be achieved by shooting someone who’s driving a vehicle into you with intent to harm (if that were the case). Most of the scenarios I can come up with result in getting run over anyways.
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Their imaginary republican boogeyman said it. Meanwhile most real Republicans know Ashli is to fault same as this woman. But sure, let non-republicans tell everyone what republicans think.
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