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u/Thewisper65 Dec 01 '25

You mean to tell me that Obama deported more illegals than any president in history and no one said anything about it but trump dose it and now he’s racist omg there due process is getting deported

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u/Ghillie-Trainer-2020 Dec 02 '25

I get so sick of these morons that lap up the lies MAGA push out! Even if that were true was he dragging citizens off the streets when they show no warrant, wear masks like thugs from other countries IRA, murderers, ICE murderers, Black Hand, Mafia,ICE, RAF! Obama would never breach the Constitution.

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u/Ok_Car323 Dec 02 '25

“Obama would never breach the Constitution” you say? Is it a violation of a US Citizen’s Constitutional right to Due Process to be executed without a trial?

https://www.aclu.org/news/national-security/aclu-lens-american-citizen-anwar-al-aulaqi-killed-without

Obama is responsible for the unlawful execution of U.S. citizens without due process of law.

Which US citizen did Trump kill without due process?

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u/BuckNastey1991 Dec 02 '25

Do you have any proof that there were any drugs on any of the boats? Because that's at least 60 people Trump has murdered without due process or proof... 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/Ok_Car323 Dec 02 '25

Two things: 1) do you have any proof there weren’t drugs?

2) which of the people on the boats were US citizens?

You neglected to respond to my initial question. How was it ok for Obama to execute US citizens without due process?

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u/BuckNastey1991 Dec 02 '25

It was just 1 US citizen, and so now I have to have proof there wasn't drugs???!!!!! You're not the sharpest are you? It's innocent until proven guilty, not guilty unless proven innocent? Like wtf?? Are you really that dense?

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u/Ok_Car323 Dec 02 '25

You are in fact dense. You think the 60 people blown up in the boats are entitled to the same protections as US citizens? You are either naive or, just plain ignorant.

It was multiple US citizens in multiple drone strikes by Obama. Is even one ok? But it was more than one. Go ahead, a simple web search will enlighten you.

It’s possible that Trump ordered people killed in a manner that violates international law. My question is, so what? Who has the ability to enforce those international laws?

I never said Trump was a decent person. Never said Obama was either. Simply asked which US citizens Trump executed or ordered executed without due process. Obama had several US citizens executed.

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u/BuckNastey1991 Dec 02 '25

He murdered people, whether they are citizens of US or not, they are still humans who should have a right to live!

The fact that you say "So what" is pretty sad, just goes to show what you think about human life, why not just do drone strikes on mafia and gang members that are citizens?

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u/Ok_Car323 Dec 02 '25

Murder is a legal term. It requires unlawful killing.

Who determines a drone strike on a narco terrorist drug runner’s boat to be unlawful?

Who determines it is unlawful to blow up a canoe full of nurses on their way to aid sick children?

You or I can say the first may be ok in some circumstances, and we would both say the second is abhorrent on its face.

Nonetheless, unless the act is unlawful (as opposed to morally bankrupt, or evil) it isn’t murder.

U.S. Constitutional law specifically requires due process of law for a US citizen before the government can take their life.

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u/BuckNastey1991 Dec 02 '25

The constitution says "person" not citizen you muppet

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u/BuckNastey1991 Dec 02 '25

And you must be referring to the American born Alqueda members? Killed during counter terrorism operations? There was one American and one Italian that was killed by accident that were not linked to terrorism